SAS Ireland SAIL
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From: London
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: 60 north
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Dude, what are You on about.
RYR dont fire people, they quit.
And I did AGP ARL in February in the new Neo ting and they were great.
Tamii
DEC is Direct Entry Captain, I could not help myself. Sorry!
Anyway London is !!!!.
Malaga is great.
Go Girl Go!
Regards
Cpt B
RYR dont fire people, they quit.
And I did AGP ARL in February in the new Neo ting and they were great.
Tamii
DEC is Direct Entry Captain, I could not help myself. Sorry!
Anyway London is !!!!.
Malaga is great.
Go Girl Go!
Regards
Cpt B
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From: London
Wouldnt base your opinion off of one flight, which was operated by AGP Based crew not LHR.
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From: The rock
Malaga is great, who needs contract of employment?
Joined: Jul 2000
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From: London
For the record and some much needed balance crews are mostly good at SAIL, professional and customer focused.
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From: London
That is a grossly inaccurate and unrepresentative statement! I am trying to work out who you are. I seem to recall you were ex Monarch (Luton??) who then worked for Primera and now works for SAIL or did work for SAIL. I have a question for you, why do you slag off everywhere you work on an open forum? You did it at Primera and now SAIL!!
For the record and some much needed balance crews are mostly good at SAIL, professional and customer focused.
Never once "slagged off" Monarch, nor Primera to a certain extent(after the collapse, perhaps). I do not work for SAIL, never have and never plan too.
Please tell me how crew who previously operated on Boeings doing a 6 day "conversion" onto Airbus and blowing slides once a month is professional, crew who can't wear SAS lanyards or wings or name badges because CAE(the employer) wont let them. Crew who've just had their attestations moved to Malta despite being employed by an Irish company and working on behalf of a Scandinavian one, very professional isn't it, but don't let facts get in the way of recruitment eh.
Of course, this doesn't extend to the entirety of SAS Ireland, there are some fantastic, experienced and professional crew working there, but they are 1 in a million.
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From: London
You had plenty of digs at Primera pre redundancy I remember reading some of your acidic comments from the summer!
My question to you is, if you’ve never worked for SAIL why do you feel so strongly to pass comment on a public forum about a company you’ve never worked for or want to work for!? It’s almost as if there’s some bitterness or resentment within you the origins of which I have no idea!!
My question to you is, if you’ve never worked for SAIL why do you feel so strongly to pass comment on a public forum about a company you’ve never worked for or want to work for!? It’s almost as if there’s some bitterness or resentment within you the origins of which I have no idea!!
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From: 60 north
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I call BS, You claim a Typerating is 6 sessions, now that is not done.
8 sessions and a test is minimum if I recall .
Anyway , it is all over when SAS goes on strike in a few weeks to stop this madness
Will save the company loads of money.
Time for a Norwegian or a Dane at the helm, the one now is daft.
No one does Irish now , even the Irish.
Polish , Latvien or whatever.
Even Norwegian is getting a Swedish AOC.
Anyway
Start smiling, PAX are boarding
regards
Cpt B
8 sessions and a test is minimum if I recall .
Anyway , it is all over when SAS goes on strike in a few weeks to stop this madness
Will save the company loads of money.
Time for a Norwegian or a Dane at the helm, the one now is daft.
No one does Irish now , even the Irish.
Polish , Latvien or whatever.
Even Norwegian is getting a Swedish AOC.
Anyway
Start smiling, PAX are boarding
regards
Cpt B
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Utopia
You had plenty of digs at Primera pre redundancy I remember reading some of your acidic comments from the summer!
My question to you is, if you’ve never worked for SAIL why do you feel so strongly to pass comment on a public forum about a company you’ve never worked for or want to work for!? It’s almost as if there’s some bitterness or resentment within you the origins of which I have no idea!!
My question to you is, if you’ve never worked for SAIL why do you feel so strongly to pass comment on a public forum about a company you’ve never worked for or want to work for!? It’s almost as if there’s some bitterness or resentment within you the origins of which I have no idea!!
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Above the clouds
Fact is that the SAIL deal is actually better than what I am getting right now (I fly F/O on the A320 out of a Scandinavian capital under a unionized contract), and I have been with my current operator for 4 years.....
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In the past year, regular Line Captains have averaged £115K before tax, flying over 800hrs on a 5/4 contract. A percentage of that does include per diems for over nighters. Captains do tend to be away more than FOs. Info from mates that still work there.
Cabin crew seem to be earning more than at Monarch and Ryanair, for less work. Not so many sales service to do.
Still some improvements needed with the pension. Woefully short I reckon.
Cabin crew seem to be earning more than at Monarch and Ryanair, for less work. Not so many sales service to do.
Still some improvements needed with the pension. Woefully short I reckon.
Joined: May 1999
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
Management can run companies this way and do run companies this way. Ryanair have created countless pilot jobs by making aviation more accessible to the masses and creating a great foothold for many people to start their careers in aviation. Get your head out of 1970 and realise that your unions’ strangling terms, massive salaries for little productivity have a place in the history books when it comes to aviation. If SAS don’t do it they’ll be run out of business by the likes of Ryanair and Wizz who will. The consumer is voting with their wallet and is forcing everyone to trim costs.
You’re foolish to think Ryanair will become like SAS mainline, and even if they do there’ll be another ULCC behind them to pick up the pieces and keep fares low for the consumer.
SAS Ireland, even with its challenges is helping reduce the cost of flying for SAS by 30%. There’s not a chance they’ll throw that away because of some disgruntled crew members want their six figure salaries and hefty annual leave allowances at the busiest travel times of the year.
Well done to SAS for creating opportunities to increase their business whilst also maintaining a high standard. If you don’t like it, then go somewhere else to work. Nobody cares.
Seems to me to be a poor setup from a management that has no clear idea of where they want to take the brand of SAS.
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Europe
Starting wage
What is the actual starting wage, without per diem, for first officers and captains now? And how is the pension deal? Kindly replies from employees that actually knows this, and not some rumours spreading up in Scandiland amongst Mainliners, please :-)
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From: Europe
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Utopia
Don´t be such a pilot tool man. Think long term (if you actually believe in the SAS model anyways, than is!). Short term, yes, the failing SAIL project might pay a new first officer higher than mainline does. Strategically speaking, where pilots fail in economics, you´ll be much better of in mainline. Hopefully you know this already. Good luck.