SAS Ireland SAIL
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Sweden
https://caeparcaviation.com/jobs/195...320-capt-role/
"New & Improved Terms"
Anyone with inside information?
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
10% rise for Captains. Still below U.K. Average. Yes it's 5/4 but Captains will still hit 900hrs
5% rise for FOs
Flight pay from 0hrs instead of 60hr overtime threshold.
Increase in pension and allowance towards LOL.
In return something had to be traded. No idea what.
5% rise for FOs
Flight pay from 0hrs instead of 60hr overtime threshold.
Increase in pension and allowance towards LOL.
In return something had to be traded. No idea what.
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 292
Likes: 1
From: The rock
Let me guess the trade is about: flexi base and flexi roster whenever required?
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
From: London
https://standby.dk/fleksibilitet-er-...abers-fremtid/
"I fremtiden bliver det nødvendigt at tilpasse sig, hvis virksomheden skal have en chance for at klare sig i en benhård konkurrence på et globalt arbejdsmarked. Kodeordet på alle niveauer er fleksibilitet.”
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 852
Likes: 6
From: Utopia
How on earth did you come to that conclusion?
https://standby.dk/fleksibilitet-er-...abers-fremtid/
"I fremtiden bliver det nødvendigt at tilpasse sig, hvis virksomheden skal have en chance for at klare sig i en benhård konkurrence på et globalt arbejdsmarked. Kodeordet på alle niveauer er fleksibilitet.”
https://standby.dk/fleksibilitet-er-...abers-fremtid/
"I fremtiden bliver det nødvendigt at tilpasse sig, hvis virksomheden skal have en chance for at klare sig i en benhård konkurrence på et globalt arbejdsmarked. Kodeordet på alle niveauer er fleksibilitet.”
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 292
Likes: 1
From: The rock
https://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/mal...s/1044018.html
Meanwhile in Spain - union goes to the court with CAE for having 26 cabin crew out of 40 employed in Malaga working without a contract of employment
Meanwhile in Spain - union goes to the court with CAE for having 26 cabin crew out of 40 employed in Malaga working without a contract of employment
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 852
Likes: 6
From: Utopia
https://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/mal...s/1044018.html
Meanwhile in Spain - union goes to the court with CAE for having 26 cabin crew out of 40 employed in Malaga working without a contract of employment
Meanwhile in Spain - union goes to the court with CAE for having 26 cabin crew out of 40 employed in Malaga working without a contract of employment
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Right hand seat of a 777
SAS Ireland
Hi All
First off, apologies if this is in the wrong part and if it’s been mentioned before, but I was unable to find anything.
Im interested in the new SAS Heathrow Op’s, and have a few question if anyone could answer them.
- Roster , it says 5 on 4 off, what does a typical roster look like? Is it mainly 1/2/3 sector days flying between LHR and Scandinavia?
- Night Stops , how many? With a young family home life is important for me
- Pay , are you employed on a self employed basis like some other European companies?
- Standby , is there any?
- Hours , how many a month is a new starting Capt likely to be doing a month?
If anyone has anything more to add, greatly appreciated
OMAA
First off, apologies if this is in the wrong part and if it’s been mentioned before, but I was unable to find anything.
Im interested in the new SAS Heathrow Op’s, and have a few question if anyone could answer them.
- Roster , it says 5 on 4 off, what does a typical roster look like? Is it mainly 1/2/3 sector days flying between LHR and Scandinavia?
- Night Stops , how many? With a young family home life is important for me
- Pay , are you employed on a self employed basis like some other European companies?
- Standby , is there any?
- Hours , how many a month is a new starting Capt likely to be doing a month?
If anyone has anything more to add, greatly appreciated
OMAA
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 298
Likes: 9
From: London
- Claim to work for SAS on your CV
- If CAE buck their ideas up, could be a great company to work for
- It’s not Ryanair
Cons:
- Pretty much everything else
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Italy
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Leeds
rubbish company, salary and people!
All crew are ready to write reports for fire you.
Is a really small company no connected with the main SAS... the contract is with CAE and you work as ACMI.
The roster 5/4 in LHR starts almost early morning than away 5 days and the last one late finish.
During the recruitment CAE promise to have daily flights from LHR, but I have just 3 or 4 in total.
Always issues with the salary (they try to pay less than what you must have from the contract).
90 % of the pilots resigns after short time.
All crew are ready to write reports for fire you.
Is a really small company no connected with the main SAS... the contract is with CAE and you work as ACMI.
The roster 5/4 in LHR starts almost early morning than away 5 days and the last one late finish.
During the recruitment CAE promise to have daily flights from LHR, but I have just 3 or 4 in total.
Always issues with the salary (they try to pay less than what you must have from the contract).
90 % of the pilots resigns after short time.
Trying to to figure out what is best, and any advice is welcome!
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 298
Likes: 9
From: London
What do you mean regarding the pay? I’m not sure how different pilots contracts are to the Cabin Crews, how do they actually treat staff, CAE themselves? And of course do you fly to any other airports not stated above from any other base?
Trying to to figure out what is best, and any advice is welcome!
Think all the answers you need are in the posts above. I am Cabin Crew myself and have found in the past airlines that treat their pilots like !!!!! treat their cabin crews even worse and that seems to be the case here. I challenge you to scroll up and find a post about SAIL which is positive.
Friends at SAIL as CC say they are regularly paid late, and often underpaid every month, with per diems and commission missing.
Also all fees that were paid for by CAE during training were taken back from their wages over the course of a few months.
Hope this helps.
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Italy
Think all the answers you need are in the posts above. I am Cabin Crew myself and have found in the past airlines that treat their pilots like !!!!! treat their cabin crews even worse and that seems to be the case here. I challenge you to scroll up and find a post about SAIL which is positive.
Friends at SAIL as CC say they are regularly paid late, and often underpaid every month, with per diems and commission missing.
Also all fees that were paid for by CAE during training were taken back from their wages over the course of a few months.
Hope this helps.
Friends at SAIL as CC say they are regularly paid late, and often underpaid every month, with per diems and commission missing.
Also all fees that were paid for by CAE during training were taken back from their wages over the course of a few months.
Hope this helps.
They have attitude as big airline where you are only a number, but they fleet is 7 A320.... the managers in LHR are worried only to see how you wear the uniform, never about the environment of work and your personal life (anyway the cabin managers are most ex Ryanair or Monarch... you can imagine how they manage the crew)
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Malaga
In this thread you can only find 15 to 20 percent of real information, the rest are people who are disillusioned for one reason or another easily distinguishable because of their way of expressing themselves. It's a shame, but that's the way it is.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 852
Likes: 6
From: Utopia
In this thread you can only find 15 to 20 percent of real information, the rest are people who are disillusioned for one reason or another easily distinguishable because of their way of expressing themselves. It's a shame, but that's the way it is.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Italy
In this thread you can only find 15 to 20 percent of real information, the rest are people who are disillusioned for one reason or another easily distinguishable because of their way of expressing themselves. It's a shame, but that's the way it is.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.
In my opinion it does not provide much help.
On the other hand something quite usual in these forums.