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You are completely wrong. The 560 pilots who were laid off were at the beginning of their career with hiring dates between 2000 and 2020. In recent years straight from flight school to SAS.
Consider this if you are applying for a job with SAS Connect. You are truly a contender to be the "lowest bidder". You will not be an SAS employee, but work for SAS Connect Crew Services A/S which is a subsidiary that they can close down when it fits (exactly what happened to the pilots in the same setup used by Norwegian when the pandemic hit).
The average age of the remaining pilots ( ca 1000) is 56. SAS is hoping to starve them out by not replacing the retiring pilots.
Still interested in working for SAS Connect? Then also consider that the pilot's union Friday 1 October filed a lawsuit against SAS for breach of the CLA (https://www.gp.se/ekonomi/sas-st%C3%...ack-1.56186242)
Technically for the period up until 2019 (before the pandemic) and for only 2 million EUR in compensation but the big reward is to confirm the intention of the limit of wet-lease-in percentage which SAS is trying to circumvent by fiddling with numbers for route profitability and having SAS Connect fly under a different callsign while still being marketed as an SAS flight. If SAS loses the lawsuit your employment at SAS Connect will also be short lived because the wet-lease-in limit has already been passed as of today.
Consider this if you are applying for a job with SAS Connect. You are truly a contender to be the "lowest bidder". You will not be an SAS employee, but work for SAS Connect Crew Services A/S which is a subsidiary that they can close down when it fits (exactly what happened to the pilots in the same setup used by Norwegian when the pandemic hit).
The average age of the remaining pilots ( ca 1000) is 56. SAS is hoping to starve them out by not replacing the retiring pilots.
Still interested in working for SAS Connect? Then also consider that the pilot's union Friday 1 October filed a lawsuit against SAS for breach of the CLA (https://www.gp.se/ekonomi/sas-st%C3%...ack-1.56186242)
Technically for the period up until 2019 (before the pandemic) and for only 2 million EUR in compensation but the big reward is to confirm the intention of the limit of wet-lease-in percentage which SAS is trying to circumvent by fiddling with numbers for route profitability and having SAS Connect fly under a different callsign while still being marketed as an SAS flight. If SAS loses the lawsuit your employment at SAS Connect will also be short lived because the wet-lease-in limit has already been passed as of today.
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Luftfart.nu and google translate
SAS will hire the first pilots and cabin crew to a Danish SAS Connect base in November
SAS has started recruiting for its new Danish platform, SAS Connect, and expects to use staff for 11 aircraft in the coming year.
Interested pilots and cabin crew can now apply for Danish employment at SAS 'platform SAS Connect. SAS expects the first appointments to the new Danish Connect base to come in November and December.
“We will hire as we receive new deliveries from Airbus. We expect a total of 11 aircraft by October 2022. In light of the pandemic and the highly competitive market that we are looking into after the corona, there is a need for us to accelerate the development of our upcoming business model so that we create a strong SAS and secures both current and future jobs in Scandinavia, ”says Eivind Bjurstrøm, VP Operations at SAS.
SAS Connect will operate with the Airbus A320, and the first flights from the Danish Connect base will begin in the first half of February next year.
Connect gets a Danish base and employment in a wholly owned SAS company
SAS Connect is the new name for SAS SAIL, which for a number of years has operated from bases in London and Spain, which made Danish agreements impossible. In May, a Danish agreement for pilots and cabin crew at the upcoming Danish Connect base was negotiated in place between SAS and the Aviation Industry Staff Union.
“SAS is satisfied with having signed an agreement with FPU, which ensures good Scandinavian working conditions for SAS Connect's base in Denmark. With SAS Connect, SAS can better adapt to the conditions in the aviation market of the future and thereby protect Scandinavian jobs and Scandinavian infrastructure, ”says Eivind Bjurstrøm.
Pilots and cabin crew will be employed in a wholly owned SAS company, SAS Connect Crew Services, which is a Danish registered company in the SAS Group.
SAS will hire the first pilots and cabin crew to a Danish SAS Connect base in November
SAS has started recruiting for its new Danish platform, SAS Connect, and expects to use staff for 11 aircraft in the coming year.
Interested pilots and cabin crew can now apply for Danish employment at SAS 'platform SAS Connect. SAS expects the first appointments to the new Danish Connect base to come in November and December.
“We will hire as we receive new deliveries from Airbus. We expect a total of 11 aircraft by October 2022. In light of the pandemic and the highly competitive market that we are looking into after the corona, there is a need for us to accelerate the development of our upcoming business model so that we create a strong SAS and secures both current and future jobs in Scandinavia, ”says Eivind Bjurstrøm, VP Operations at SAS.
SAS Connect will operate with the Airbus A320, and the first flights from the Danish Connect base will begin in the first half of February next year.
Connect gets a Danish base and employment in a wholly owned SAS company
SAS Connect is the new name for SAS SAIL, which for a number of years has operated from bases in London and Spain, which made Danish agreements impossible. In May, a Danish agreement for pilots and cabin crew at the upcoming Danish Connect base was negotiated in place between SAS and the Aviation Industry Staff Union.
“SAS is satisfied with having signed an agreement with FPU, which ensures good Scandinavian working conditions for SAS Connect's base in Denmark. With SAS Connect, SAS can better adapt to the conditions in the aviation market of the future and thereby protect Scandinavian jobs and Scandinavian infrastructure, ”says Eivind Bjurstrøm.
Pilots and cabin crew will be employed in a wholly owned SAS company, SAS Connect Crew Services, which is a Danish registered company in the SAS Group.
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Fire and rehire. I have no words for how disgusting SAS’ behaviour is. No words.
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Back in 2015 SAS bought Cimber (an almost empty company), for a small amount of money. Then started to hire 100+ pilots and the same amount of Cabin Crews to fly regional flights. And when the company was up and running 100% in late 2016, SAS announced in start 2017 that they wanted to sell Cimber, to Cityjet. Just to get rid of employers responsibility. I wonder if this the plan with Connect? And end state is to have only LH pilots and CC on a SAS-contract, with the rest outsourced?
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Has anyone seen terms and conditions for Connect or Link? PM me if you have. As I am not qualified to apply for my former job, I would love to see what is replacing me.
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I’ve heard that SAS actually don’t want to rehire their previous employees due to scandinavian business transfer laws.
Maybe someone here can confirm this. Is SAS doing this move with connect to break the current pilot unions?
Maybe someone here can confirm this. Is SAS doing this move with connect to break the current pilot unions?
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Yes. So far, as far as I know, no former crew have been invited to an assessment, me included. Pure union busting.
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That's interesting. I have heard of three courses starting in January all with ex-SAS crew. It is only for the CPH base, so I'm guessing they are taking CPH based pilots first?
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Of course it’s to undermine the SAS pilots union.
This manoeuvre makes Ryanair look like the good guys ffs!
An absolute embarrassment to Scandinavia and the Scandinavian way to employ people.
But every man for himself seems to be the creed on this forum. Enjoy.
This manoeuvre makes Ryanair look like the good guys ffs!
An absolute embarrassment to Scandinavia and the Scandinavian way to employ people.
But every man for himself seems to be the creed on this forum. Enjoy.
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I'm not really sure what to think of it all.
Not much has changed with SK since my good old days, back in mid 2000s. Untrustworthy management and second to none bad leadership. As of the most recent years this once proud (albeit a long time ago!) company started this disgusting union busting. It surely is a disgrace for the Scandinavian people and I´d be embarrassed working for any of their companies.
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Why? the SAS management is lying all the time - and always have been! No reason to expect anything from the ones a lower rank. Nothing new.
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Yes, with Cabin Crew in the Flight Deck - manipulating the controls! Pilots finally outsmarted beyond the imaginable. Long live SAIL and SAS Connect and the bright future ahead - of cheap @ss contractors fighting for survival. OMFG, what a bunch of circus clowns we all really are. The last good SAS (the real airline!) jobs were back in the late 90s. What´s left now is just a ****ty airline with even worse bottom feeders (read: SAIL, SAS Connect). Happy winter flying.
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well..
Let's not get too carried away, the "real" SAS pilots are still fighting and the unions have taken the circus management to court, as well as told everyone that it might be a war come April 1, when our current contract expires. This will be our last stand, as we (the real SAS) is still big enough by then to have an impact. Most of my colleagues are ready to fight to the end, and if all goes down, at least our backs will be straight, and flying jobs will be available somewhere else...
Winter is here....
Winter is here....
Let's not get too carried away, the "real" SAS pilots are still fighting and the unions have taken the circus management to court, as well as told everyone that it might be a war come April 1, when our current contract expires. This will be our last stand, as we (the real SAS) is still big enough by then to have an impact. Most of my colleagues are ready to fight to the end, and if all goes down, at least our backs will be straight, and flying jobs will be available somewhere else...
Winter is here....
Winter is here....