Norwegian B787 - LGW based

[SMT Member]

Originally Posted by aussieizborn

Can someone inform me as to how Norwegian, as a foreign operator, can operate out of Gatwick to destinations various, competing and actually denying business to true British carriers? Is it part of the EU agreement. If so I must admit I can't wait until the skies belong to our operators again.

Absolutely. It's the same rules which allow easyJet to establish a base at e.g. Schiphol and cart people from there all over the continent and UK. Works both ways, you see.

The aircraft Norwegian have based at Gatters are Irish registred, that is until they've got their UK AOC up and running and start transferring aircraft over to G-reg. The RoI is a full EU member, Norway is an EEA member, which brings most of the benefits of being a full EU member - including the ability to launch an airline anywhere in the EU under a Norwegian AOC.

Norwegian is 'denying business' no more than any other airline operating in the UK or EU; they are offering a product which a large and growing number of people are reacting positively to. There's nothing stopping a UK company doing something along the same lines, and indeed they have - with tremendous success.

[aussieizborn]

Norwegian UK Operation

Thanks to all for explaining that. I suppose any UK company could have taken the initiative and been there first.

[FlipFlapFlop]

The difference is how far down costs can be driven and who is prepared to force terms and conditions in to the dust the hardest. Any model that deliberately separates its workforce from the true employer is in my opinion a step too far.

[Direct Bondi]

they are offering a product which a large and growing number of people are reacting positively to.

Some people are not reacting so positively, especially when;

Large numbers are left stranded and distraught –

http://cphpost.dk/news/thousands-lef...0-flights.html

Aircraft pressurization is overlooked –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...etene/65397686

Emergency exits are unmanned –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...synet/60837640

They would rather not skid off the runway –

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/pass...andningsbanan/

They need to position their pooch –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/hund...anikk/67444344

Fingers, toes and paws may be needed to count the costs of Norwegian’s “extras” legacy carriers commonly include in their ticket price –

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sherma...b_5589408.html

[aless85]

@ Direct Bondi

Can you post news of 2017... Not constantly repeat old news over and over again!

Thank you

[Monstersinc1]

Hello guys, Has anyone applied recently? What kind of time frame are we talking form online tests to sim? Any info appreciated! Also, if anyone has done the sim recently and is willing to give a quick over view then please PM me! Cheers!

[snak]

Hi guys! anyone has some info about relief captain position? I would like to know in particular:

1) where the relief cpt seats normally, t/off & landing.
2) are the hours logged as full PIC?

cheers guys

[Payscale]

SNAK

I dont work for Norwegian but as a general rule...

A relief Captain only flies in the cruise segment. Hence sits in an observer seat during take off and landings.

PICs time is logged only when sitting in the operating seat.

[JetpoweredMigrantWkr]

I think the cruise Capts get to count ~50% of their time in the seat as PIC time. Something like that.

[Swept]

I have a friend who joined earlier this year and online assessment to invite was 7 days and they wanted him to assess the following week. When he passed the assessment they were flexible about the joining date and Rishworth were pretty helpful.
He's still in line training, which is taking a while, but is enjoying the Company and hasn't got a bad thing to say about them......unlike some here!

[JetpoweredMigrantWkr]

That is on par with several reports that I have heard as well from friends that were hired through Rishworth as well as OSM.

[directmisbi]

Classes are full, high calibre 380/777 skippers from especially the middle east have taken the jump to be closer to home, and even though they have taken a pay cut, many are finding the relaxed and professional working environment to be very beneficial. Colleagues are excellent, and after a couple of years on the Rishworth, trainers are grossing around 200.000 euros pr year on the osm contract for example..

[FlipFlapFlop]

directmisbi. Are you a pilot or Norwegian management or OSM ?

[mackey]

Afternoon all,
Anybody have any ideas regarding the bank guarantee for the B787 type rating bond? I couldn't see any info on the earlier posts.
Cheers

[highfive]

Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

[mackey]

Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

I appreciate this but what I was asking, was did anyone know who the bank guarantee is with, which bank or banks?
Cheers.

[Avenger]

Normally a "bank guarantee" is written by your own bank, which means they are satisfied that you have the means to pay them back if they pay the airline money according to a default clause, In some cases airlines require a bank guarantee from a particular bank, if it is not your "normal bank" and you have no client history with them they may ask you to deposit funds equal to the guarantee in an escrow type account, which bears interest ( FWIW!) .A chum of mine required a letter of guarantee and the bank obliged after they took a second charge on his home..

[highfive]

Taking out a second mortgage on a home to allow you to join a company who pays a salary to allow you to pay off that very load is self defeating .
But its the way of the modern pilot ( society?) .
Debt debt debt ...

[pilot hans]

even when you're type rated they ask for a bond...
Atmosphere is good they say ;-)

[Mr Angry from Purley]

If its a great place to work you can either suggest no need to bond crews, or on the other foot no need to worry about bond (as long as you have it) when you're not going to move on...
Unless the losses continue to grow?