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Norwegian B787 - LGW based

Old 6th Apr 2017, 21:06
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The difference is how far down costs can be driven and who is prepared to force terms and conditions in to the dust the hardest. Any model that deliberately separates its workforce from the true employer is in my opinion a step too far.
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 06:02
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they are offering a product which a large and growing number of people are reacting positively to.
Some people are not reacting so positively, especially when;

Large numbers are left stranded and distraught –

http://cphpost.dk/news/thousands-lef...0-flights.html

Aircraft pressurization is overlooked –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...etene/65397686

Emergency exits are unmanned –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...synet/60837640

They would rather not skid off the runway –

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/pass...andningsbanan/

They need to position their pooch –

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/hund...anikk/67444344

Fingers, toes and paws may be needed to count the costs of Norwegian’s “extras” legacy carriers commonly include in their ticket price –

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sherma...b_5589408.html
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 20:49
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@ Direct Bondi

Can you post news of 2017... Not constantly repeat old news over and over again!

Thank you
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 08:32
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Hello guys, Has anyone applied recently? What kind of time frame are we talking form online tests to sim? Any info appreciated! Also, if anyone has done the sim recently and is willing to give a quick over view then please PM me! Cheers!
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 10:31
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Hi guys! anyone has some info about relief captain position? I would like to know in particular:

1) where the relief cpt seats normally, t/off & landing.
2) are the hours logged as full PIC?

cheers guys
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:02
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SNAK

I dont work for Norwegian but as a general rule...

A relief Captain only flies in the cruise segment. Hence sits in an observer seat during take off and landings.

PICs time is logged only when sitting in the operating seat.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 12:41
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I think the cruise Capts get to count ~50% of their time in the seat as PIC time. Something like that.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 18:31
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I have a friend who joined earlier this year and online assessment to invite was 7 days and they wanted him to assess the following week. When he passed the assessment they were flexible about the joining date and Rishworth were pretty helpful.
He's still in line training, which is taking a while, but is enjoying the Company and hasn't got a bad thing to say about them......unlike some here!
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 12:22
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That is on par with several reports that I have heard as well from friends that were hired through Rishworth as well as OSM.
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 12:59
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Classes are full, high calibre 380/777 skippers from especially the middle east have taken the jump to be closer to home, and even though they have taken a pay cut, many are finding the relaxed and professional working environment to be very beneficial. Colleagues are excellent, and after a couple of years on the Rishworth, trainers are grossing around 200.000 euros pr year on the osm contract for example..
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 20:29
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directmisbi. Are you a pilot or Norwegian management or OSM ?
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Old 1st May 2017, 17:02
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Afternoon all,
Anybody have any ideas regarding the bank guarantee for the B787 type rating bond? I couldn't see any info on the earlier posts.
Cheers
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Old 2nd May 2017, 09:23
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Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

Last edited by highfive; 2nd May 2017 at 11:00.
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Old 2nd May 2017, 12:37
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Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

I appreciate this but what I was asking, was did anyone know who the bank guarantee is with, which bank or banks?
Cheers.
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Old 2nd May 2017, 16:09
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Normally a "bank guarantee" is written by your own bank, which means they are satisfied that you have the means to pay them back if they pay the airline money according to a default clause, In some cases airlines require a bank guarantee from a particular bank, if it is not your "normal bank" and you have no client history with them they may ask you to deposit funds equal to the guarantee in an escrow type account, which bears interest ( FWIW!) .A chum of mine required a letter of guarantee and the bank obliged after they took a second charge on his home..
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Old 3rd May 2017, 03:46
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Taking out a second mortgage on a home to allow you to join a company who pays a salary to allow you to pay off that very load is self defeating .
But its the way of the modern pilot ( society?) .
Debt debt debt ...
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Old 3rd May 2017, 06:57
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even when you're type rated they ask for a bond...
Atmosphere is good they say ;-)
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Old 3rd May 2017, 14:11
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If its a great place to work you can either suggest no need to bond crews, or on the other foot no need to worry about bond (as long as you have it) when you're not going to move on...
Unless the losses continue to grow?
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Old 5th May 2017, 18:04
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Lot of interesting and creative talk here, but I do know RCA's in Norwegian can not log a single hour as PIC! You can have discussions if its right or wrong, but as an RCA you are just looking after the aircraft for the Captain and can't log it as PIC. It simply is fraude if you do as Norwegian doesn't let RCA's log their time in the captains seat as PIC. Being RCA is nothing more than a sort of senior FO in Norwegian.

Could an FO otherwise also log PIC time when the captain is in the toilet during flight with a two man crew? Right......
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Old 13th May 2017, 07:19
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You can say whatever you want about Norwegian LH, how good the working environment is, new planes....etc, at the end of the day 10 days off at home per month for a long haul operation seems very low to me. Most of the domestic low costs offer 12 days off. Flying a widebody should AT LEAST be able to accomodate the same. Looks like guys are currently getting a couple more days off in Scandinavia but this is still days away from home.....
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