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Old 15th Feb 2017, 09:25
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@dreamflight1;

Completed the tests mid December haven't heard anything since. Anyone else in a similar situation? Thought Norwegian were desperate for pilots?
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 09:53
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OSM take the stance that you are an employee solely with them.
For example, if you wanted, as I did, to take advantage of the 737 'winter downsizing', and take a short contract with an overseas company, OSM robustly stated that I work for them, and only them. To work on any contract elsewhere would require my resignation, first. However, to take advantage of the 'winter downsizing' would entail taking unpaid leave.
This is a different stance to that taken by ARPI.

So. If one is an employee of OSM, and Norwegian choose to no longer use your services, surely OSM are obliged to continue the permanent and full time employment, with permanent and full time basic salary.
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 10:21
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I think you will find that if Norwegian no longer "require your services" an excuse along the lines of "by your actions you have threatened the relationship between OSM & their client & risked bringing OSM into disrepute" as opposed to "hard luck old boy, fancy a contract with Transavia in MUC ? " . . .anyhow, they have very little to offer on the 737, and, even less on the 787 so, you will in all likelihood be simultaneously dismissed from OSM if NAS don't want you. . . . . .
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 10:44
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Are you guys rated 78/777 and waiting that long to hear back??? Also left or right seat?
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 11:26
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There's about 30 new pilots starting every month.

Therefore I guess the recruitment team is flat out. They'll get to you no doubt
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 11:50
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Anyone know if the online tests have a validity in which they must be completed?
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Lancelot de boyles
OSM take the stance that you are an employee solely with them.
For example, if you wanted, as I did, to take advantage of the 737 'winter downsizing', and take a short contract with an overseas company, OSM robustly stated that I work for them, and only them. To work on any contract elsewhere would require my resignation, first. However, to take advantage of the 'winter downsizing' would entail taking unpaid leave.
This is a different stance to that taken by ARPI.

So. If one is an employee of OSM, and Norwegian choose to no longer use your services, surely OSM are obliged to continue the permanent and full time employment, with permanent and full time basic salary.
I wouldn't bet on that
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 21:14
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RHS non type rated 3500TT - 2 months now since I took the tests.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:06
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Recruitment ads are appearing for flight crews to join the “Norwegian family” via employment with service provider OSM. In an interview on January 16, OSM CEO, Espen Hoiby, assures “the best possible collaboration between unions and the company”:

http://www.icenews.is/2017/01/16/ceo...#axzz4XSxrmcRH

However, in meetings on February 14 and 15 between crew member’s union representatives and management, the gross hypocrisy of Norwegian’s “family values” was made apparent:

http://cabinassociation.org/current-events/

“The most disappointing moment at the meeting, though, is when Management said that they would not allow the NCCA to start collecting Union Dues. Many words were exchanged and it’s apparent that Management is still upset at our Union victories last year when we won every legal battle against the Management and finally emerged victorious with our union being voted in.
The inability of our Union to collect dues is very serious as it will affect our ability to successfully negotiate a contract and Management knows this. Without dues money, our Union cannot afford the legal advisers, economic advisers, and other professional services that result in you, our members, receiving the best contract we can negotiate”

What has this got to do with this thread? I hear chumps shout. Well, on joining you will become a Norwegian family member and wear the same '100% Norwegian' badge as your US (and Spanish) relatives – or perhaps you don’t care about your family.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:41
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+6000hrs jet, applied for RCAPT position. Finished online asessments in September. Got email in November saying application still active. No news since then. Anyone in similar situation? How long it takes to be invited for Interview?
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 18:05
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Well good luck with the Spanish courts !!! I doubt Norwegian will settle at the court doors, Spanish law is a minefield, it could go either way depending on whether your case is heard pre or post siesta time, we are talking 3rd world judiciary here, but it could be worse if you were in Roma the outcome would be known already, but not to you....
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 18:05
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i did the online test and was given assessment dates just a couple of days later, this was in January. assessment will be in March. Relief capt. Not sure I'll go there because they are not really answering questions about T and C...
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 20:41
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Standbys are scattered throughout your roster and you have to be in base for those even as a commuter. 7 days STBY, which is not unusual is all paid for by you! hotel, transport, food the lot.
Shiver me timbers quell surprise Pilots always seem to forget about the S word when they take jobs. And OMG you have to pay for it also - The answer is don't commute
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 21:56
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Hi,

Just today I complete the online tests. Coming from a LoCo company in Europe B737 4500+ hours ATPL . I applied for FO.

Can you tell me how many time usually it will take to have an answer?

Another question, I'm looking for Barcelona, it is possible to have the base which you gonna go before the interview?

Last one, can anyone share a Roster just to see flying hours, Duty hours and stby days?

The training cost bond is from my bank or a you just sign a document?,

Cheers
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 16:39
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Sim

Originally Posted by I-AINC
If someone needs infos on the sim session drop me a text message.
I feel happy to help today
I'd appreciate any Sim feedback for the Norwegian LH assessment!
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 19:40
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Originally Posted by samca
Hi,

Just today I complete the online tests. Coming from a LoCo company in Europe B737 4500+ hours ATPL . I applied for FO.

Can you tell me how many time usually it will take to have an answer?

Another question, I'm looking for Barcelona, it is possible to have the base which you gonna go before the interview?

Last one, can anyone share a Roster just to see flying hours, Duty hours and stby days?

The training cost bond is from my bank or a you just sign a document?,

Cheers
After a few days, I have the answer to the tests. Seems to be I'm not the kind of person they are looking for...

Thank you for your application and your interest in our company, and we are sorry to have to inform you that we have chosen to prioritize other applicants for the position in question.
We would like to thank you for your interest and wish you the best of luck for the future.

You are naturally welcome to apply for other positions we advertise. We recommend that you activate the job agent in our recruitment solution. This will ensure that you receive notification by e-mail whenever we advertise new situations vacant that match your criteria.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 04:29
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Did the Assessment for NAS in Miami. Interview,some tech questions which I couldnt remember and Compas Test. Lastly,sim eval. 5 days later received a Dear John letter. Thanks but,no thanks.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 10:30
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@Joe
Out of interest- what fleet did you apply for? 787 or the MAX? I hear interviews in MIA are for both fleets?
What position did you aim at and what is your experience if you don't mind to share?
And I wonder where the other applicants come from?
Thanks for your info!
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 18:33
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Question Ref Norwegian

Can someone inform me as to how Norwegian, as a foreign operator, can operate out of Gatwick to destinations various, competing and actually denying business to true British carriers? Is it part of the EU agreement. If so I must admit I can't wait until the skies belong to our operators again.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 18:40
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In the same way eJ does across Europe. As horrible as the Norwegian employment model is, we should be careful what we wish for.
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