Norwegian B787 - LGW based
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I understand they only interviewing B777 B787 guys predominantly from the gulf airlines. and Turkish . Will keep the recruitment people busy for a few months. No shortage of overqualified applicants both FO n DEC.
No idea how many guys have actually taken the leap of faith and left EK, QR and the unmentionable lot for NLH?
No idea how many guys have actually taken the leap of faith and left EK, QR and the unmentionable lot for NLH?
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Most pilots from Ryanair, Primera, SunExpress, ex KLM, ex Martinair, SIA, Privatair, Jet time, Jet2, Cargolux, Silkway and Norwegian short haul. Also some from Emirates, Etihad and Qatar, but not that many yet.
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Personally, I can't see the advantage of flying the "plastic fantastic" (jet-lag/no wifi / 8 ? or is it now 10 ? days off a month) in preference to the 738 (same money / wifi / if LGW based home most nights & contracted 12 OFF a month) am I missing something more relevant than penis size here 
How does wifi/no wifi come into the picture?
How does wifi/no wifi come into the picture?
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Yes you are missing something,
Not everyone lives near gatwick - they don't do all out and backs anyway.
The money's actually a tad better.
Also SH don't offer the ability for unrated DEC on 737,
Those with enough command experience on small planes join as ' relief captain '
WTF you going on about wifi for ?
Not everyone lives near gatwick - they don't do all out and backs anyway.
The money's actually a tad better.
Also SH don't offer the ability for unrated DEC on 737,
Those with enough command experience on small planes join as ' relief captain '
WTF you going on about wifi for ?
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Minimum 10 days off per month, average is 11,5 days/month they say. Plus 28 days vacation per year. A few positioning days per month, a couple of blank days. If you live in Scandinavia or at LGW, for example, using your blank days and positioning days wise you end up with a few more days off per month.
They offer three choices; variable roster (variable amount of off-days, perhaps nice to them living close to LGW), two blocks of (minimum) 5 days off each, and one block of (minimum) 10 days off.
At the moment only direct entry CPT and FO, but hear they will open externally for RCA as well within days.
They offer three choices; variable roster (variable amount of off-days, perhaps nice to them living close to LGW), two blocks of (minimum) 5 days off each, and one block of (minimum) 10 days off.
At the moment only direct entry CPT and FO, but hear they will open externally for RCA as well within days.
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I kind of get why a Brit 777 Captain from a hot and sweaty part of the world might want to do be a NLH Captain ...
but I really can't conceive of why an experienced A320/737 Captain would be interested in the crushingly boring role of cruise pilot - (A role most EU airlines just use standard FOs for, provided they have an ATPL).
but I really can't conceive of why an experienced A320/737 Captain would be interested in the crushingly boring role of cruise pilot - (A role most EU airlines just use standard FOs for, provided they have an ATPL).
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I am reliably informed that the older pilots are just as bad as their younger colleagues if not worse when it comes to the Norwegian wifi so stop kidding yourself.
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" I am reliably informed that the older pilots are just as bad as their younger colleagues if not worse when it comes to the Norwegian wifi so stop kidding yourself."
You bet
Whilst it may not be a factor in your decision, it is nice to have (particularly if you are at a base with an average sector length of 4-5 hrs ) Amazing Boeing couldn't have sent the Screamliner out the door with it fitted as standard, so much for "modern". But, really, it is a sideshow to the main questions, which concern salary/employment model/rosters/duties/layovers/quality of hotels/quality of air. On that last note, I am jealous of your 6000ft cabin alt with no bleed air, and being able to hear yourself think without the 737 racket all the time, but, I still think the gig falls well short of what anyone could reasonably expect from a long haul contract, hence why I couldn't get excited about it in preference to a 737 contract with the same operator. (apart from at LGW base where the rosters seem to be useless on a magnitude possibly related to where they originate from )
You bet
Whilst it may not be a factor in your decision, it is nice to have (particularly if you are at a base with an average sector length of 4-5 hrs ) Amazing Boeing couldn't have sent the Screamliner out the door with it fitted as standard, so much for "modern". But, really, it is a sideshow to the main questions, which concern salary/employment model/rosters/duties/layovers/quality of hotels/quality of air. On that last note, I am jealous of your 6000ft cabin alt with no bleed air, and being able to hear yourself think without the 737 racket all the time, but, I still think the gig falls well short of what anyone could reasonably expect from a long haul contract, hence why I couldn't get excited about it in preference to a 737 contract with the same operator. (apart from at LGW base where the rosters seem to be useless on a magnitude possibly related to where they originate from )
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Norwegian’s UK AOC:
Norwegian has made NO announcement of any date to employ pilots at LGW in 2016 or beyond.
Norwegian continues to source pilots on a temporary basis from various agency employers and may ‘return’ those pilots to the agency at any time, without reason, and without recourse. Any notice period is with the employer agency, not Norwegian. Additionally, contracts may contain a clause indemnifying the agency from any obligation, including a notice period, due to action by its client airline. This arrangement or scheme permits Norwegian to circumvent employment laws, labor rights and labor principles.
With the alleged expansion, now is the time for the Norwegian Pilot Group to be a force rather than a farce.
Unfortunately, in respect of pilot unity, it appears Norwegian’s long-haul pilots wish to separate from their short-haul colleagues. Compare the declarations from the respective websites:
https://nlhpa.org/public/news/pilot-association-founded-norwegian-long-haul-pilots
http://www.norwegianpilotgroup.com/
Apparently, the pilots are already divided, making any future conquering that much easier for Kjos.
Norwegian has made NO announcement of any date to employ pilots at LGW in 2016 or beyond.
Norwegian continues to source pilots on a temporary basis from various agency employers and may ‘return’ those pilots to the agency at any time, without reason, and without recourse. Any notice period is with the employer agency, not Norwegian. Additionally, contracts may contain a clause indemnifying the agency from any obligation, including a notice period, due to action by its client airline. This arrangement or scheme permits Norwegian to circumvent employment laws, labor rights and labor principles.
With the alleged expansion, now is the time for the Norwegian Pilot Group to be a force rather than a farce.
Unfortunately, in respect of pilot unity, it appears Norwegian’s long-haul pilots wish to separate from their short-haul colleagues. Compare the declarations from the respective websites:
https://nlhpa.org/public/news/pilot-association-founded-norwegian-long-haul-pilots
http://www.norwegianpilotgroup.com/
Apparently, the pilots are already divided, making any future conquering that much easier for Kjos.
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I understand that the deal is 3 years contract?
Then what ? Is Bondi correct in saying they return you to the agency ? Makes no sense. Or do you sign another 3 year deal?
I was asked to re submit the online tests. But once i told them i had already done them they , eventually, acknowledged that I didn't have to do again .
I applied 6 months ago lol . Jokers.
So far no one person has been offered a LGW contract. Period.
Then what ? Is Bondi correct in saying they return you to the agency ? Makes no sense. Or do you sign another 3 year deal?
I was asked to re submit the online tests. But once i told them i had already done them they , eventually, acknowledged that I didn't have to do again .
I applied 6 months ago lol . Jokers.
So far no one person has been offered a LGW contract. Period.
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Highfive; I don't really understand. You write that no one got a LGW contract so far? About 150 Norwegian B787 pilots are on a LGW contract. The rest of them in BKK.
After three years you'll get offered a permanent contract with OSM Aviation.
It has been discussed here before if you must do the online tests twice. I suggest you read the invitation more careful where it should clearly say that if you have done the tests within a year you don't have to do them again. Quite simple.
After three years you'll get offered a permanent contract with OSM Aviation.
It has been discussed here before if you must do the online tests twice. I suggest you read the invitation more careful where it should clearly say that if you have done the tests within a year you don't have to do them again. Quite simple.
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The Norwegian guys employed are already in Norwegian. Im talking about new joining that are not currently employed by Norwegian wether Sh or LH.
Wonder what the reason is they dont send out the thanks but no thanks letter? Guess many are looking but not so serious as to leave EK when push comes to shove.
The layover hotels are only 3 Star. The crews are all asian gals. Good luck with those Asian night stops
Wonder what the reason is they dont send out the thanks but no thanks letter? Guess many are looking but not so serious as to leave EK when push comes to shove.
The layover hotels are only 3 Star. The crews are all asian gals. Good luck with those Asian night stops