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Old 18th Jul 2015, 19:00
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Whereas I take pride in what I do and it doesn't matter what colour the fin is.

I'm not convinced that the reputation of your airline, whoever it is, rubs off on you as much as you like to think.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 19:01
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I would not change to a FO position with SAS
Completely understandable. Our choices are driven by motivation, and motivation varies Some like status. Some like being at home every night. Some like the size of their jet. And some just need to get the bills paid.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 19:04
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I'm not convinced that the reputation of your airline, whoever it is, rubs off on you as much as you like to think
Maybe not. But my passengers certainly believe they are getting something more than just a nice bottle of Merlot for that first class ticket. And perception goes a long way my friend.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 19:06
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Yes, but that's different to you, as a pilot, being associated with whichever airline.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 19:28
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es, but that's different to you, as a pilot, being associated with whichever airline.
In my humble opinion, customers who pay 30,000 usd for a ticket come to expect something resembling the Company's profile also from the staff.. maybe especially from the flight deck crew. For some, being held to a perceived high standard is important. You may be surprised how many retired ex Legacy Captains find it hard to adjust to being just another Joe Blow. And that is all about you, the pilot.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 00:35
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You are just another Joe Blow, doesn't matter a jot who you work for.

If one thinks that one isn't then one has an ego problem.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 07:02
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You are just another Joe Blow, doesn't matter a jot who you work for.

If one thinks that one isn't then one has an ego problem.
I"m sorry but you failed to get my point. We were discussing what motivates people. What your opinion is on someone else's motivation is irrelevant to the discussion.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 10:21
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Huh? Discussing what motivates people but opinions on it are irrelevant. There's no discussion then is there!
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 10:53
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Thumbs down

And when have you experienced 'quality' Chesty?! 3 years only on Boeings in that 'Gutter' of the North - when you've been part of something special, a two-way employer and rewarded well, you'll get what Quadspeed is saying.

Don't forget to say 'Have a great Holiday'!
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 11:06
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All I'm saying is that there is more to employment than just driving the thing.

Walking through the lounge and down the jet bridge I for one feel a part of something larger. From the beds in first class to the wine selection in business, our product is of a high standard and we price it accordingly. Our customers certainly appreciate our product , and I'm proud to be a part. I speak to our customers with pride in our airline, and know that they expect nothing less than excellence in return for their money.

Whatever way you choose to look at it, it feels good to be a part of it and I for one would rather sit there with 3 stripes than in some flying circus with four.

And if choosing otherwise, then I think we can discuss your mention of who's ego needs checking.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 11:12
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Sean, been there done that and I'm not likely to spread my entire career history over PPRuNe just for you. I'm now more than happy with my current choice thanks.

Taking you as an example - even now you're a bright eyed new boy at BA you're still the same noob as always.

By the way your use of single quotation marks to highlight your opinion is wrong.

You can take your vitriolic attitude and shove it.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 11:14
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OMG quad speed, you've swallowed the huggy fluffy stuff.

Is your definition of excellence dropping engine parts all over North London.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 12:57
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It is of course, horses for courses.
But I've gotta say my roster is sweet. My leave is allocated. 10 days off a month contracted from November.

I don't have any major complaints
 
Old 19th Jul 2015, 13:10
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Hows that rate coming along, 1 =1.45 ?

10 days off per month, on long haul?

Good grief. But no " major" complaints so alls well 😜
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 14:26
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OMG quad speed, you've swallowed the huggy fluffy stuff.

Is your definition of excellence dropping engine parts all over North London.
Perception, dear friend. Perception.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 14:40
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Yeah, I know, but who's perception of who?
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 16:39
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fade to grey "10 days off a month contracted from November." is an improvement from the "office workers" minimum of 8 you have had in your contract up to now, but, doesn't it cheese you off that the 737 drivers have 12 ? shome mistake shurely ? long haul used to be attractive for, amongst other things, more time off. . . .where did it all go wrong ?
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Old 20th Jul 2015, 00:34
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Yeah, I know, but who's perception of who?
Oh, that's easy dear chap . The customers perception of who is flying their airplane.

I thought I made that clear. But not to you it seems.

The bottom line is that some pilots like to be associated with a particular brand. And everything that goes with that.

As for 'most', then the best we can do is look at the numbers going from legacy to lcc, or the other way around. And after that, just let the numbers speak for themselves. I've done both, believe me, and so has most of my colleagues.
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Old 20th Jul 2015, 01:13
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. The bottom line is that some pilots like to be associated with a particular brand. And everything that goes with that.
Since everybody asked my opinion:
Been there, done that: Flying left seat on wide bodies for small carriers, pax and cargo.
Also flown right seat for big firms, worlds largest nowadays, 15,000 pilots.
Had more fun doing the smaller airlines, big fish in a small pond and all that.
Working for huge airline gets a bit dull after a while, everything is canned and too much Standardization. During a recent simulator check they had changed the procedures and call-outs. Instead of calling for speed, it was now speeds.
The instructor kept hissing in my ear speedsss, not speed, confused me while trying to climb out on one engine after a V-1 cut. I flew the jet fine and put it back on the ground fine, but got dinged for the speeds, or speed call, still not sure what the problem was.
Don't need the status and recongnition of a major airline, but the benefits are great.
That being said, more work, less pay with a smaller outfit, but more fun. More pay, less work with a big one.
Would like to have my cake and it eat too.
Or just retire early, been doing this too much anyways.
Carry on chaps, without me..
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Old 20th Jul 2015, 07:30
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Yes that's correct, short haul do get more and that is a bone of contention.

Euro rate is of no interest to me, paid in pounds now at a favourable rate.
 

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