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Old 29th Oct 2014, 18:43
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Hmmm, reading not one of my strong points it would seem

Guess I was focussing on the types they listed.
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 20:00
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Flying wild,

RT(F)Q. or in this case the advert. This is for NTR pilots. So all of you who have been posting for the last 3-4 months asking when will they open up recruitment for those with an XXXX type rating, now is your chance. As long as you meet the requirements of FCL.730.A. For those of you unable to carry out a basic internet search... see below.

FCL.730.A

Specific requirements for pilots undertaking a zero flight time
type rating (ZFTT) course – aeroplanes

(a) A pilot undertaking instruction at a ZFTT course shall have completed, on a multi-
pilot turbo-jet aeroplane certificated to the standards of CS-25 or equivalent
airworthiness code or on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a maximum
certificated take-off mass of not less than 10 tonnes or a certificated passenger
seating configuration of more than 19 passengers, at least:

(1) if an FFS qualified to level CG, C or interim C is used during the course, 1500
hours flight time or 250 route sectors;

(2) if an FFS qualified to level DG or D is used during the course, 500 hours flight
time or 100 route sectors.

(b) When a pilot is changing from a turbo-prop to a turbo-jet aeroplane or from a turbo-
jet to a turbo-prop aeroplane, additional simulator training shall be required.


regards to all and best of luck.


PS remember to read all the instructions prior to any of the tests
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 21:29
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does anyone know

how many are they looking for

what are they looking for

is it now or hold pool

whats your favourite colour
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 21:51
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Whatever they are looking for, the simulator block at Cranebank is a squalid building. The simulator I used had poor visuals and no sound for important things such as Tcas warnings or the gear retracting or extending.(Sound had been paid for!).
One of the toilets in the building had a bucket to catch urine that was leaking from one of the urinals and the other toilet had an aroma worse tnan a beachfront hole in tne ground in the sub-continent. Not exactly what you would expect from the World's favourite.

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Old 29th Oct 2014, 21:58
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That is everything i am looking for.
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 22:12
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Presumably they used that sim because it didn't need sound?

Shame you weren't in the new sim hall with the nice shiny new sims. It's very nice indeed.
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 22:12
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Tubby

the simulator block at Cranebank is a squalid building.
Trust us, we know, we know.................I think that bucket was there when I did my assessment in 198X and I've done my bit to fill it up every time I visit the place...

Anyhow you might be pleased to know that as Stocious has pointed out the ground training hardware (sims, SEP rigs, the lot) is in the process of moving to a brand new home inside one of the refurbished hangars at the old base area adjacent to Hatton Cross...I've not been over there but I gather it's all jolly spiffing.... and a great improvement.

Here's a link to an article about it all in a publication worthy of HIGNFY

ISG lands contract to build BA flight simulator centre ? Construction Enquirer

I'm not sure whether the bucket will get to move or not...the contract for that is probably still out to tender...

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Old 29th Oct 2014, 22:19
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I was just surprised that a normal looking bucket with all the appropriate qualifications to catch and contain waste had passed the selection to be there!

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Old 29th Oct 2014, 22:24
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maybe the bucket was integrated into the toilet and not a modular unit.
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 23:50
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What! It is not Carbon fibre with Titanium trimmings........???
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 23:54
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On schedule

The link provided to the new sim building project by ISG shows a completion date of 'Spring 2014'. Is that a typo and should the correct date be 2041?

As shown by the bucket things never move quickly in BA.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 01:46
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I read on PPJN that DEFO will start on - 52000 plus allowances ? Really ?
Thats a take home of 3100 per month plus some allowances. Take Home.
Unbelevable . Its horrible and is less than 20 years ago lol

I was misguided and was under the impression that a long haul FO would be on upwards 80k plus gross ?

Oh well, I can be happy to stay put & not to waste my time applying with salaries like that. For rich kid's kids only.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 17:28
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Words fail me...
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 19:56
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and you believed the stories of 80k plus starting salary, one out then four days off before flying home. Do that three times a month and we will have your car valet done for your return. Next you will be asking for the cheese board.

Reality check....yes 52k after allowances 63-64k. 18-21 days a month flying. Mainly 3 sector days, some four as well and at heathrow that's asking.

If you expect more money may I suggest you join as a CSD on world wide
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 22:07
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Umm it's ba the most junior of said group gets to remove the bucket of piss.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 22:17
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Hi all,

Quick question. I would hate to let this rare NTR opportunity pass me by, given that the last time BA opened up for non Airbus/Boeing guys and girls was years and years ago. Now I appreciate I'm at the bottom of the pile when it comes to 'preferred' criteria, I have approx 430hrs on jets. By the end of next month I expect to have near enough 500hrs thus fulfilling the minimum requirements, is it worth/reasonable applying now? If the 500hrs was arbitrarily plucked out of the air then I would understand that they are the requirements they have laid down and that's that. However, BA have made it clear that the 500hrs is there to satisfy the zero hours flight time training requirement, so if I was jammy enough to be offered a job with them, by the time I would start my training there would be no issues as I'm sure after swimming in the hold pool for a while I'd be well on my way to 1000+hrs. Only aspect that makes me uncomfortable is in the preliminary questions it asks if you have the 500hrs and at this moment in time I don't and they make the point of answering honestly blah blah...sorry that wasn't really a quick question as originally stated, but a penny for your thoughts good people? Thanks.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 01:03
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Only aspect that makes me uncomfortable is in the preliminary questions it asks if you have the 500hrs and at this moment in time I don't and they make the point of answering honestly blah blah.
I think you have answered your own question, however for the sake of 4wks I would definitely suggest waiting. Have the questions drafted and hit the submit button as soon as you surpass the 500hrs. For reference BA will take your logbook on any selection day.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 02:30
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Bex, oh yes it was like this before, well not quite that cushy , but a reasonable lifestyle.

So a take home pay of say 3500 for a long haul 777 FO. BA was the epitomy of British aviation. A place where all would aspire to work, rest n play. If you didnt get in,and were capable you could join a second tier airline such as Caledonian, Britannia . Failing this , then go east young man, and work for CX$$$

BA is a facade. Fly to serve. But it all boils down to lifestlye. No money no honey. The average British home price is 272000. On a takehome of 3100 and to save a deposit of 20% and come up with the 2000 a month to service the mortgage a month will leave you broke. There fore its rental only.Or a park home with granny.

If the asipring BA pilot, the best of the best ( after selection) cannot buy an average joe bloggs terrace, then whats it all come to?

And still there must be 100s clambering over each other desperate to sign up.
27 years layer, you make the top FO scale, taking home 6k a month. what a load of crok.

The only people they really want are those who have property, no mortgage, and a ton of cash in the bank. but then i aint working for40k a year . Good luck though Bex88, you reap what you sow. .
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 07:19
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I guess highfive and those that are like minded won't be joining BA, I bet BA are shaking in their boots as to the prospect of an imminent recruitment crisis and will upping the salary scales immediately.

It's all a choice no-one is being forced to work for BA.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 07:50
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Sky Rocket, applications close in under a fortnight so if I waited I'll miss the boat! Any idea typically how long it takes to process applications and invite you to a selection day?
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