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Old 26th Sep 2014, 12:00
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A320 link live yet?

Whilst I see the A320 has now been added to the list of types for further recruitment, I don't see a live link for it yet, only for the Boeings on a different page, with cut off date for 6th October.

Have I missed something here ? Or can you use that link? As after searching again I only get the live link for the Boeings.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 12:03
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The 320 DEP page went offline the 18 september (deadline cutoff).
Am i missing anything?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 12:36
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whybyflier

My point is using lateral thinking (initiative, creative, persuasive, negotiator et la) to align one's profile to BA's own, while being fairly comfortable with the tests & interviews, what-ever one might make of them, and you should get a nod.

I'll still accept your case but will not agree as Juan Tugoh, bex88 & others have best laid bare.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 12:39
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A few days ago, the A320 and 757 were added to the types required but the live link button for online assessment only shows the Boeings.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 15:23
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PFO just arrived into my mail box.
Best of luck to those still in the game.
I guess my future will be east, far east, for a long time.
BA was a dream for me, but i realise there is more people with more experience than me so it's fair they get more attention.
Thanks to all for the valuable infos
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 16:22
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PFO for me. Current Monarch SFO. I didn't even get to attend the 1st selection process!!! A point blank rejection after my initial online application. I didn't think I was that much of a on paper!

So much for BA gagging for 320 rated pilots. I have 1800 hours on type and potentially out of job come April. With not enough hours for the Middle East and easyJet unlikely to take me back this could be the end of the road for me.
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 19:13
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Sprinkles, I am sorry you didn't make it but 5 of your colleagues got offers this week. On the positive side if enough of your colleagues make it through in BA and other carriers then there may be no need for forced redundancies at MON.

It took me 3 attempts to get into BA, and while definitely not to be recommended, failure does breed determination and character.

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Old 26th Sep 2014, 19:21
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Out of interest, got offered a place in the pool or offered a start date?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 19:30
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Cheers for the reply binsleepen.

Seniority is my only hope. Fortunately that might keep me safe but questions will have to be asked on the longevity of the business. But that's not relevant here.

Unfortunately things aren't as simple with the respect of people leaving and redundancies. But you're right the more voluntary redundancies and notices being handed in should decrease the amount of compulsory redundancies handed out. But, like I say it's not that simple sadly.

One door closes and another opens and all that crap!
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 08:18
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Sprinkles,

i don't know your total time but with 1800 hrs on a fbw airbus i think you qualify for at least a couple of airlines in the ME.
I wish you all the best
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 07:07
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Any info regarding the B744 fleet?
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 07:59
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747 fleet, I am not on it but it's a large fleet still around 45-50 aircraft (best estimate) and whilst it is being retired this will take about 10 years. Good route network, those on it seem to love it. Being DEP you will not get a choice of work due to seniority so expect blind lines. Often these work out quite nicely actually.
Starting pay is 52k and FPA is 630 a month. Duty pay is probably up around the 1k a month. Full time is about 4 trips a month.

This is what I am told by some that I know on that fleet but it's just a ball park. I am sure someone else can be more accurate.
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 09:16
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Not a bad summary but I suspect many junior full timers are going to be looking at 5 or more trips a month as most of the long range stuff migrates onto the newer fleets.

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Old 28th Sep 2014, 09:46
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It will be interesting to see how the EASA rules and new Bidline change how the work allocation happens on the Jurassic Fleet, particularly as the long range trips move to the newer, more efficient fleets. 6 transaltantics a month anyone?
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 10:25
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Non Type Rated DEP

So with the trawl for 320 rated apparently struggling to attract enough people. DEP on to LH open and the managed path for military pilots advertised is there any possibility Non Rated DEP will make it down to those of us flying Turbo Props and Regional Jets. Like many of my colleagues I would very much like a shot at BA and the opportunity to progress in the industry.
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 11:23
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See my post 721. Not much has changed in 4 days....

Regards
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 12:15
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binsleepin,

Hope you're still enjoying BA 6 years in. Sounds like you are. Have you joined the recruitment department?

Just wondering if BA will ever look to recruit experienced A380 drivers in the future?

Not interested myself but I know others are.

Always good to know ones worldwide options on a rare fleet..!
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 14:42
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Just wondering if BA will ever look to recruit experienced A380 drivers in the future?
Ultimately nobody knows, but that said it's increasingly looks like it's always going to be a small fleet in which case my guess is (IMHO) all the seats easily filled by internal transfer.
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Old 28th Sep 2014, 15:47
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Sprinkles

Whilst the prospect of redundancy must be extremely stressful, try not to be overly disheartened by the rejection from BA. On paper I'm sure you appear a safe bet; greater than 1500hrs on the bus with a background established in two respected operators. I think you are probably selling yourself short when it comes to airlines in the Gulf. I know of at least one where you exceed the requirements. The ME isn't ideal but it's a stable job with better command prospects than BA. Hopefully you won't have to venture that route but if if you do..

As consolation, the BA DEP process is littered with traps which could see you fall at the slightest of hurdles. In my opinion and experience, the further that you get within the process only leads to greater disappointment when you fail. All "offers" will be for a holding pool with no guarantee of a start date. There has been an ongoing and disheartening record of people making it, only not to actually make it in the end. And whilst I'm sure LC and his team of recruiters see this as completely undesirable, it has occurred in the last two campaigns. Been there, bought the t-shirt. It isn't pretty.

BA have went from a position of dumping a DEP hold pool and denouncing any future prospect of further DEP hire to a desperate need for DEPs across multiple fleets in less than 12 months. There is now a requirement for LH hire, something that had been completely discounted by many within. From this it is difficult to fathom what's going on. However could a hold pool place be argued as a safe bet considering previous and more recent occurrences? A hard one to answer I'd say.

Best of luck for the future

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Old 28th Sep 2014, 16:52
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Callsign & Bin spleen,

Just out of interest, for those who are successful when are the 'projected' courses for new LH recruits?

Thanks
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