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Old 17th Dec 2018, 11:08
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Originally Posted by bex88 View Post


Some of us would love to ďstart at the bottom and work our way upĒ the reality is we stay at the bottom forever unless we give up our command. That is not a fair system at all.

Like all of the ex BMI Boys and Girls who remain at the bottom.........
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 11:26
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Originally Posted by red9 View Post
Like all of the ex BMI Boys and Girls who remain at the bottom.........
Apart from the ones who jumped the seniority to get Longhaul commands. There are some on 747 and 787. I believe there may even be some into the A380 this year.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 11:49
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Originally Posted by red9 View Post
Like all of the ex BMI Boys and Girls who remain at the bottom.........
Not quite true is it Red9...

From day one the ex bmi boys & girls have been able to join RHS LH & therefore leave the bmi bubble... indeed I watched through my 5 year engagement freeze junior pilots do exactly that... & get commands on LH&SH! Frustrating for me yes but that was the deal. Any ex bmi Pilot bidding for a protected command also knew the deal & therefore would enter the bmi bubble, wether thatís fare or not thatís the deal. So to assume there was no choice is frankly wrong, it was their Choice!

However in 2016 Commands went so junior that a group of ex bmi pilots achieved an aspirational position, I along with many feel they should be in the BA list & why BALPA doesnít correct this I donít know... I guess because it doesnít suit them & by them I mean IG. Iíve also been told that itís to do with MPE , but thatís a load of pony because as people eventually retire it will become impossible to maintain that MPE. Donít forget it was the ex bmi Pilots that scuppered the last JSS vote too!

Red if you want the bmi bubble to be disbanded then be my guest to complain to BALPA, weíre all BA pilots which means we all adhere to the MOA & all have a MSL position. I respect the negative aspects of the integration deal, so should everyone.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 13:23
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BASHLH. The protected command thing is all very grey and mostly not covered in the agreement. 100% spot on with the 2016 commands though.

I just wish it could be sorted. Itís nearly 7 years now and it is still paralysis. The only way out is from the top to take a LH command (< 2 % ) of LH commands or give up your command.

Anyway I repeat myself again and again. I think we agree on the subject.


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Old 17th Dec 2018, 17:09
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It is true The ex BMI could go right hand seat and go long haul.
Believe it or not not everyone wants long haul despite more money etc etc, so the only choice they have is to go RHS short haul if they want to leave the bubble,
I take my. Hat off to the FOís who chose to take command and re enter the bubble to forward their career which I believe is what we all probably wanted when we first started out. I do get it as to why so many long haul pilots just stay where they are with many retiring in the RHS.

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Old 20th Dec 2018, 08:50
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Hi all,

Anyone passed the sim recently knows the time frame from entering the hold pool to getting an offer/start date? And what fleet is currently being offered?

Thanks!

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Old 20th Dec 2018, 10:17
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Originally Posted by cBoxMungo View Post
Hi all,

Anyone passed the sim recently knows the time frame from entering the hold pool to getting a offer/start date? And what fleet is currently being offered?

Thanks!
Scroll up a couple of posts and you can read some peoples experiences. Most people seem to be waiting about 1/2 weeks before they get an offer. As advertised, the 320 is still the main fleet being offered but people have also been getting 74, 77, and 78.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 12:28
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By way of an update and for mí2pence worth the latest is command airbus at LHR has now gone senior, Gatwick is off the end of the list, very junior. A friend of mine who is airbus rated has just been given long haul 787, 5 days in the hold pool. I think the lady in charge has now been given the green light to offer courses out. If youíre swimming, expect news very quickly. If youíre applying, expect a very quick application process and gen up on the 767 pitch and power numbers for the assessment. You wonít have to wait long, theyíre using the 76 now full time for selection. Good luck

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Old 20th Dec 2018, 13:44
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Originally Posted by OBK! View Post
I think the lady in charge has now been given the green light to offer courses out.
Isnít it a bloke now?

In any event as you say there seems to have been a major reshuffle/rejig of Airbus courses and training.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 14:10
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With JSS and the new crack down on pre duty commuting, would current pilots now consider it difficult to commute in from other parts of the UK while maintaining a decent quality of life? LH or SH.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 14:20
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I think itís a bit early to see how JSS will really work out, it will take another 2-3 months before we see how typical rosters shape up and how they would fit with ďcommutingĒ.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 14:31
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
I think itís a bit early to see how JSS will really work out, it will take another 2-3 months before we see how typical rosters shape up and how they would fit with ďcommutingĒ.
Thanks for the reply. Having run into a fair number of (usually) long haul crews on my particular shuttle I gather it has been possible in the past without being too detrimental to quality of life? I suppose youíd need at least two completely clear days off between trips or tours otherwise you could be spending an awful lot of single days off in the T5 travelodge.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 15:32
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Originally Posted by pilotpete123 View Post


Thanks for the reply. Having run into a fair number of (usually) long haul crews on my particular shuttle I gather it has been possible in the past without being too detrimental to quality of life? I suppose you’d need at least two completely clear days off between trips or tours otherwise you could be spending an awful lot of single days off in the T5 travelodge.
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FWIW on Longhaul you are usually going to get two or more complete clear days off between trips anyway, unless you opt to reduce rest or actively try for a back to back...






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Old 21st Dec 2018, 20:00
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Stage 1 Assessment

Hi All,

I attended stage 1 of the assessment on the 3rd Dec as yet I have not heard anything regarding the outcome.

Has anyone else heard anything who attended an assessment early Dec?

Cheers.
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Old 22nd Dec 2018, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Somko transition View Post
Hi All,

I attended stage 1 of the assessment on the 3rd Dec as yet I have not heard anything regarding the outcome.

Has anyone else heard anything who attended an assessment early Dec?

Cheers.
Hey bud, I attended on the same day as you - we probably spoke! I haven't heard either and kinda assumed that meant I was unsuccessful - however I phoned them yesterday and they said they haven't given any results out yet from that day and to wait patiently for an email... starting to lose my mind slightly! Good luck!
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 11:42
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Originally Posted by ChrisE View Post
Hey bud, I attended on the same day as you - we probably spoke! I haven't heard either and kinda assumed that meant I was unsuccessful - however I phoned them yesterday and they said they haven't given any results out yet from that day and to wait patiently for an email... starting to lose my mind slightly! Good luck!
Such a bizarre recruitment process; I know of people who have been progressed to stage 2 that attended stage 1 later than 3rd December.

But I guess itíll all remain quiet until the new year now
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Old 24th Dec 2018, 02:37
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Can any of you fill us in on what stage 1 was like, what was involved and how you would prepare if doing it again. PM's are welcome as well.
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Old 24th Dec 2018, 14:20
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Originally Posted by kendrick47247 View Post


Such a bizarre recruitment process; I know of people who have been progressed to stage 2 that attended stage 1 later than 3rd December.

But I guess itíll all remain quiet until the new year now
That doesn't fill me with confidence for my chances of progressing to stage 2...
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Old 24th Dec 2018, 15:48
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Originally Posted by Somko transition View Post
That doesn't fill me with confidence for my chances of progressing to stage 2...
No no no, donít let what I said make you think that.
I think theyíre just a little bit backwards about coming forwards in their processing of stuff
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Old 24th Dec 2018, 16:44
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Give them a call or send them an email guys. They're pretty approachable. You have the right to hear something within a few weeks. They should be very happy that you're taking the effort to apply for the job. Good luck with the rest of the assessments!
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