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Old 8th Feb 2018, 10:26   #4481 (permalink)
 
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I completely disagree with that! I felt like I was a financial inconvenience to the management at my previous LoCo. I had to flight for everything while there, I couldn’t face another couple of years working there, let alone another 35! Albeit I got a Longhaul position here, I would have taken SH, the majority of my friends did and are very happy. My work life is no longer stressful and therefore my home life has become stress free. I think the majority of this has to do with the attitude and culture at BA, where pilots are still treated like professionals, left to get on with the job!
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 10:59   #4482 (permalink)
 
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Some interesting points here.
Before I got into the industry I always looked at BA as my career goal, long haul captain with a decent salary.
Now I’m mid thirties with a family BA doesn’t look like the right choice.
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 15:15   #4483 (permalink)
 
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Its been done to death, on this thread and others. there are pros and cons a plenty.

From my perspective, if you are in your 20s/early 30s and single(ish) then BA is still as good a gig as any. The main reason being you can bid to move around between SH and LH every 5 years. I find that kind of career choice liberating and it helps stoke up enthusiasm for the job.

Realistically, most join and do around 5 years A320 and then move to a LH fleet, then take stock after 5-10 years about a SH command. Many stay LH as the lifestyle is to their liking. Very few actually do a new Type Rating every 5 years/jump around between SH/LH but it is possible if you really love Groundschool.

Joining straight onto LH is a nice move for already experienced guys but you will sit at the bottom of a very long list with hardly any appreciable movement for quite some time.

If you want big money early then forget it. My mates at Locos are all far better off than I am. That said you can be at £100k p.a within 7-8 years as a LH F/O - with overtime and bonus.

Glad to hear the patient swimmers are being rewarded. A350 joins the fold in 2019 for anyone who fancies it.
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 16:00   #4484 (permalink)
 
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Any more offers made to those who had their sims mid to late oct 2016?
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 16:33   #4485 (permalink)
 
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BMRR,

For me your post answers a lot of questions.
I do want big money now. 100k plus within a couple of years would allow me more flexibility with my property/other investments before my little one is going to school. School fees aren’t cheap!
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 17:19   #4486 (permalink)
 
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Retrojet, rated or non rated? My sim partner was called few days ago for SH position and we did our check early october 16.
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 17:27   #4487 (permalink)
 
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Either! Glad to hear about more offers going out...I know of some late SEPT/mid OCT a320 rated people getting SH offers....

just wondering if any mid to late OCT people had received offers yet...???
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 18:00   #4488 (permalink)
 
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Lots of LHR 320 FO's have had their 787 / 777 courses binned. There were already planned DEP's to go LH but likely to increase as a result.
Can we expect a new DEP type rated B787/777 recruitment campaign in the coming months, similar to the A320 campaign just announced?
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 18:17   #4489 (permalink)
 
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The main reason being you can bid to move around between SH and LH every 5 years.
......at the moment.

And 25% joined in the last 5 years so it's a big bulge.

Jewel in the crown was bidline

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Old 8th Feb 2018, 19:44   #4490 (permalink)
 
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Aiminghigh, yeah makes sense. I've got kids and a big mortgage too, and I wouldn't leave a loco command at the age I am now unless I absolutely had to fly LH. That said some people do just that and they make it work so your guess is as good as mine - its all extremely subjective!

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......at the moment.
SHHHHHH! (I heard a year ago that AC and SG had a list of big ticket items they were pointing both barrels at, number 1 was pensions, guess what number 2 was.
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 20:02   #4491 (permalink)
 
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And I’ve heard from others ITK that it’s not even remotely on the radar so depends which rumour you want to believe really. You can drive yourself mad if you worried about everything you heard on the rumour mill.

Not exactly a Nostradamus prediction to say they were looking to address the pension situation, especially as Steve Gunning had said it himself directly in his introductory video almost two years ago!

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Old 8th Feb 2018, 20:46   #4492 (permalink)
 
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Just read on Airliners.net (Airbus Is in Talks With British Airways on More A380s - Page 7 - Airliners.net)

Someone said someone posted on yammer that a new A380 order is imminent, but since posting the post has been removed from yammer.....

Anyone on the inside have any more info?
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 21:03   #4493 (permalink)
 
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Well the most recent flight ops news said the A380 fleet is planning to remain at 12 aircraft for the foreseeable future..
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 21:34   #4494 (permalink)
 
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BA has delayed retirement of some of their 747s and expanded their fleet so that now they are 11 aircraft short for completing the replacement. If they want to further expand their fleet then that number would rise further.
Be nice to finally see a launch customer for the B777-10X stretch and the pilots to go with it.
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Old 8th Feb 2018, 21:52   #4495 (permalink)
 
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Not exactly a Nostradamus prediction to say they were looking to address the pension situation
Not exactly wrong either was it.
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 15:45   #4496 (permalink)
 
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Any news this week?
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 18:26   #4497 (permalink)
 
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My understanding from the conference call was that rather than let you know in advance, (“Hey TTR, we’re putting you on a course in October, that ok?”) they are waiting until 90 days before your expected start date to contact you.

In that instance, it may be a flurry of activity followed by periods of radio silence.
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 22:42   #4498 (permalink)
 
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A few DEP long haul offers went out last week. I believe a mixture of rated and non rated.

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Old 14th Feb 2018, 13:17   #4499 (permalink)
 
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TTR, I suspect that is simply because nobody in BA has a clue what the course/manning status is like in October. People in the company only get notified 6 weeks ahead of a course (with all planned leave &c being wiped off your roster) so you are actually getting twice the notice we are!
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 14:14   #4500 (permalink)
 
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Jwscud, I completely understand the reasoning behind why they aren’t giving more than the bare minimum notice for start dates. Doesn’t make it any easier when you’re at the bottom of the (TR) hold pool acutely aware of how quickly things can change. One morning you’re flying to Tenerife, prepping for a command interview, 24 hours later you’re unemployed...

Just putting my spin on why it’s a bit “peaks & troughs” with people getting called for start dates.
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