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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 15:25
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Originally Posted by Mizar View Post
May and june sim checks getting called now, is it confirmed?
The guys I know were May and June for sim checks. Whilst not type rated, theyíre both current on a Boeing aircraft, which from the update email seems to be the case for LH positions at the moment.

Not sure where they are with ďpureĒ non rated such as Dash /EJet etc.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 07:58
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Hot off the press for those getting the calls..

...BA makes a whopping £1.7 billion profits for the year, BA staff bonus is 1.4% of basic pay..Director of Flight Ops going, going, gone, ..nobody is owning up to why but there are v v strong rumours that of all synthetic training about to be outsourced ( anyone planning on joining and applying to be a trainer take note).......new rostering system (JSS) delayed 'cos only Bidline can cope with this summer's required level of work..increased restrictions on the ability of flying staff on duty having their teenage dependents accompany them as passengers when Mum or Dad is on a working trip..etc etc etc

Welcome aboard folks, you are joining at an in interesting time ..but do please bring your sense of humour and a thick skin, you'll need both....

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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 09:32
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Hey Wiggy you forgot to mention the new uniform!

Apparently we get to design it ourselves....
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 10:31
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Where did you read that? Can't see anything about a new uniform
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 10:35
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I know this has been done before, but with the continuing negative changes I am genuinely wondering if there is any point in continuing through the current selection process with BA, or whether to just stick with ezy where I am pretty happy. The trajectory BA seems to be on is a little worrying especially when moving there is playing the long game. Thoughts?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 11:57
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
Hot off the press for those getting the calls..

...BA makes a whopping £1.7 billion profits for the year, BA staff bonus is 1.4% of basic pay..Director of Flight Ops going, going, gone, ..nobody is owning up to why but there are v v strong rumours that of all synthetic training about to be outsourced ( anyone planning on joining and applying to be a trainer take note).......new rostering system (JSS) delayed 'cos only Bidline can cope with this summer's required level of work..increased restrictions on the ability of flying staff on duty having their teenage dependents accompany them as passengers when Mum or Dad is on a working trip..etc etc etc

Welcome aboard folks, you are joining at an in interesting time ..but do please bring your sense of humour and a thick skin, you'll need both....
Is that what the bonus is 1.4%? I would rather have last years £300 and an extra ticket. Just starting my 5th reserve month in 18, somehow I feel so much better about it knowing I have £800 coming my way, not!!!!!
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Threethirty View Post
Where did you read that? Can't see anything about a new uniform
Not sure you'll find reference to that in today's intrablah announcement but there's been talk of a new uniform for a while..I haven't heard BMRR's verson of this is going to be done. The version I heard was it was going to be "make it yourself", with BA sending the design out to individuals via e-mail and then the individual building their fetching ensemble at home.

I know many of those not yet cognisant in the current BA way will perhaps find it hard to understand why many inmates probably think either of the above is actually a possibility.

They will achieve great understanding and become wise beyond their years the first time they do battle with mission critical stuff like the company iPad and software. They might just perhaps find..maybe...it doesn't work as advertised (I know with BA being gold standard and all that they'll find even that hard to believe), ask for advice from a manager or an "executive" and get told "but you just follow the instructions" or " there's an ESS form for that online".....or the all time favourite "it's self help, self teach, you shouldn't need my assistance, all you need to know is on My Learning Academy...".

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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 13:21
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It’s hidden in the email blurb, 2019, centenary year, new uniform. Designed by crew.

Personally I’m going to donate my “bonus” to the uniform design fund. I wonder if the A380 folks will ask for a gold pair of trousers?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 14:36
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Naah, more likely some on that fleet are lobbying for a uniform hat with built in GoPro.....

(Sorry, not helpful for the prospective DEPs so I’ll knock it off now) .
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 17:56
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I know this has been done before, but with the continuing negative changes I am genuinely wondering if there is any point in continuing through the current selection process with BA, or whether to just stick with ezy where I am pretty happy. The trajectory BA seems to be on is a little worrying especially when moving there is playing the long game. Thoughts?
Nope!.......long long list of pilots above in a seniority based company and not even LOCO pay.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 18:25
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Hi guys,

Any idea what aptitude tests BA are currently using for day 1? I know a couple of years ago there were two tests:

- The Flight director test, with numbers counting down and coloured shapes etc.
- The test with a NAV display, TCAS, electrical display and fuel pumps etc.

But a mate of mine who got in around a year ago didn't have to do the flight director test. Is this still the case?

Thanks a lot
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 18:51
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Originally Posted by bex88 View Post
Nope!.......long long list of pilots above in a seniority based company and not even LOCO pay.
Just out of interest, were you one of the few who took an early command?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 19:01
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Originally Posted by oleostrutbasher View Post
I know this has been done before, but with the continuing negative changes I am genuinely wondering if there is any point in continuing through the current selection process with BA, or whether to just stick with ezy where I am pretty happy. The trajectory BA seems to be on is a little worrying especially when moving there is playing the long game. Thoughts?
The answer is different for everyone because everyone‘s situation is different. If you’re applying, hopefully you will have read much of this thread and will be well aware of the pros & cons.

There are some strong voices on here, both for and against the company. Ignore them all, and make the decision based on your situation alone, not theirs.

And remember, the key to happiness is not just the dollars in the bank at the end of the month!

Good luck with your application.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 20:30
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Generally agree, however, BA has changed soooo much in the 10+ yrs that I’ve been there, unfortunately not for the better good of the employee. If you feel it has more to offer than Easy, than join but do so with open eyes, take heed of all the advice on here and make a decision that suits your circumstances.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 21:29
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The bottom line is:

Is long haul your sole destiny and are you happy to be RHS for a very long time.

The rest is much of a muchness. BA is not the same compared to 5/10/20 years ago. Goodness knows what it will look like in the near future.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 22:20
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
Naah, more likely some on that fleet are lobbying for a uniform hat with built in GoPro.
With an altimeter in it so it only works above FL200
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 01:01
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why on earth as an experienced pilot you would want to join the bottom of a very long list with race to the bottom TandC I do not know. BA used to be the aspiration for many, it is now just another airline competing in the marketplace for what is becoming a scarce commodity, if you are young with many years ahead of you maybe, to others there are far better deals out there.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 01:18
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bluepilot

As you know, it's whether LH is the be all and end all.

Otherwise, the grass isn't always greener.

Good luck to those that are 'blessed'; whilst their contemporaries may be fat, dumb, wealthier and happier.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 08:01
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why on earth as an experienced pilot you would want to join the bottom of a very long list with race to the bottom TandC I do not know.
Because that race to the bottom is going on everywhere, and maybe BA will level off at a point above the LoCos?

It’s not for everyone, I agree. If I was high houred FO or Captain at a regional base with a LoCo (particularly if that base was far from London) with no particular desire to go long haul, I’d probably stay where I am. But if Long Haul is the aspiration, or you buy into the prestige (yes, it’s easy to sniff at it, but it is our nations flag carrier, and that does count for something) then it’s a harder decision.

And it’s not like it’s a prison camp - I’m sure you can put in your notice and leave if it’s not for you, same as any other job.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 09:04
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Have to agree with the sentiments above. Clearly there are a few BA pilots who think only BA pilots are in the firing line.

The truth is the race to the bottom is well and truly on, everywhere. Itís not a BA problem specifically, itís an industry problem. The latest rumours about design your own uniform or training being outsourced are just this weeks examples. And at the moment itís all just rumours.

There will be new rumours every week between now and when you retire - none of which are likely to be morale inspiring in their content. Its been like that in all 3 companies Iíve worked for. Even in times of record profitability the next swing of the axe is (rumoured at least) to be just around the corner. If you canít handle that Iím afraid youíre in the wrong industry. Our terms and conditions will always be under attack.

What I can say with certainty is that the grass isnít always greener. We have our problems and other companies have their problems.
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