BA Direct Entry Pilot.

[Retrojet]

Fair enough....but even for short term....good news for TR'd guys and girls, well I guess it depends on the leasing of Qatar and Titan aircraft initially and then what ever happens in terms of sourcing extra aircraft

[Jet Set Willie]

BA Cityflyer now flying some of the routes till the end of the year at least confirmed.

[Retrojet]

I wonder how all these leased aircraft will affect recruitment for us lot.... BACF, Qatar? and Titan?

[Jumbo2]

Retrojet the Monarch slots will affect the amount of intake in a positive way. Using BA Cityflyer, Titan and Qatar is more expensive then having (bigger) BA aircraft operate these slots.

The post from Jet Set Willie is incorrect, there is a lot of wishful thinking within BACF, but so far BACF will only operate a few slots out of LGW, mainly in the weekend, from the 9th of Feb till the end of the winter season. This is when mainline think they have enough aircraft to do these flights themselves.

[Love_joy]

I understand recruitment have been contacting those who were rated previously to clarify their circumstances, I guess something is about to start somewhere.

Can anyone clarify the latest info?

[Retrojet]

Which ratings were they asking about?

[one day soon]

"Can anyone clarify"

Approx 200 this year, 60+ are cadet with the rest dep
Expecting it to be similar numbers each for the next 4 years
Could be more if lots leave over the current pension and bidding system changes

Source : top horses mouth

[Retrojet]

Any ideas when the next lot of movement will happen? I know they said next update will be mid-January....any rumours floating around.

[student88]

Hopefully soon Retrojet but the new flight ops manpower department seem to like saying they'll give updates which never turn up on time.

[tfly737]

Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.

[keepitlit]

80 new FPPs who have already started to filter into the training system
200DEPs to be recruited with airbus type ratings first.
No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!
As for next year, it’s anyone’s guess, as with this year and with previous years its all reactionary. They do not seem plan for more than 12 months ahead.
However pilot numbers in 2019 are expected to exceed 5K. (Currently about 4100+)

[frozenpilot]

TRE who did my recent sim said trainers had been told at a recent meeting we need to recruit at least 300 this year. This was without having factoring the Monarch LGW slots. Training managament had also advised we are becoming very short of F/o's on long haul. Factor in the announced expansion of long haul and the deployment of people later in the year for the arrival of the 350.... Seems like it's all about to kick off again!

[thetimesreader84]

I realise you could still make an argument for it being “mid January”, but has anyone had the promised update from recruitment?

[Mizar]

Nope not yet I hope it is going to come next week, they were even talking about another web conference so will see

[nrn]

Originally Posted by tfly737

Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.

Who gave you that information?

[student88]

They're waiting on an update from network planning regarding the Monarch slots and the 787 fiasco before announcing anything, but that doesn't mean to say any of the above is true.

[4468]

No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!

Highly unlikely to be the case. Due...

we are becoming very short of F/o's on long haul. Factor in the announced expansion of long haul and the deployment of people later in the year for the arrival of the 350

Any internal bidders for RHS LH who are unfrozen, will likely be 'released' at some point in the training year, as fast as FPPs/recruits can replace them. That won't be sufficiently quickly to satisfy the LH training sausage machine.

Which is why...

Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.

(As long as they get the Tupperware jet fixed!) is quite likely to be an underestimate.

If 'today's' plan runs it's course!

[FL370 Officeboy]

Originally Posted by keepitlit

No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!

There's already been 747 and 777 DEP recruitment over the last few weeks

[Retrojet]

777? We were told about 4 x 747s back in December has there been more since?..how many taken onto the 777?

[VJW]

Mate of mine who is probably on here somewhere was called for 777 couple days ago.