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Old 13th Jul 2014, 12:00
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NOD

If you cannot cope with a seemingly illogical and drawn out recruitment process, then by default it has achieved it's aim It reflects BA well


.....And as for telling the tale of that (infamous) car, don't try.......if you tell that story to anyone who has never worked for BA "they'd never believe you" (spoken with a Yorkshire accent...)
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 13:57
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I was in Munich checking my texts during a turnround and one was a text to contact my wife who said Meadowbank had rung asking if I would coming over from Berlin for an interview. . I'd got one more sector Munich- Tegel so I landed in Berlin and deadheaded on the BA.
I did day 1 at Meadow Bank, and at the close of play, I was told there was an empty slot on day 2 the next day which would save me coming back from Berlin. What was there not to like about that. At the end of Day 2, the Captain and Human remains guy just made things very simple - subject to the medical (the next day) I would get an offer by the weekend and could I give notice to my company straight away. Yes I said, with the offer letter in my hand I would but not until. That was Thursday and the offer arrived on Friday. I was in Cranebank four weeks later and type rated on the Classic about ten weeks after joining. The -400 followed about 12 months later as promised. It seems things have changed a bit since then.
All I can say is get in as soon as possible, no matter on what type, and get on the Seniority List.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 14:40
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Ahh, the days before online applications, recruitment profiles & automated emails. Much more personal. Imagine having to phone someone to invite them to an interview/assessment! :-)
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 20:35
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NOD it appears I dodged a bullet then!!!!

As one door closed, another opened and so far I appear to be a very lucky boy!

Guaranteed thou, everything will get worse but hopefully more slowly where I am but then again.... Who knows!!

There's a voice that keeps on calling me
Down the road, that's where I'll always be.
Every stop I make, I make a new friend,
Can't stay for long, just turn around and I'm gone again

Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down,
Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

La la la laaaaaa....
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 21:30
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WhyByFlier.........I can't lie without smirking
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 22:03
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I've been fortunate enough to get an invite to interview at the end of the week. Anybody know the format? Mixture of HR and tech questions?
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 19:19
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Has anyone been invited to the sim yet? Did interview last week but haven't heard anything back yet.
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 19:24
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Good luck to those attending interviews and group exercises. Don't make the same mistake as someone on my day by referring to the head of pilot recruitment as a captain. He wasn't one at the time (not sure if that's changed).

Good and bad news from the air show. 20 neos ordered for short haul but will only be allocated if short haul returns a profit! Until then it's still wizz's cast off's.

IAG - International Airlines Group - News Release

These aircraft are currently intended to replace 21 shorthaul British Airways’ aircraft but will be reallocated if the airline cannot make a profitable return from its shorthaul business.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 00:47
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I haven't heard a yea or nah and my assesment was 2 weeks ago, are others in the same position?
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 07:10
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I received a rejection the next working day. You might want to chase up.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 09:09
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Commiserations, Superpilot - hard luck but there is always next time. It is how we respond to adversity that sets us apart.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 10:03
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Callsignkilo, your BA experience mirrors mine. I suspect we went through the process side by side back in 2011 (?). FlyingTinCans' eloquently written summary of the recruitment process is fairly accurate in timescale and content, in my experience, and it has always been thus with BA. Personally, back in 2011 BA 'made sense', but now I find myself closer to 40 than 30 and with a command on a Boeing, so BA's 2011 assessment that I was 'the right sort' for their operation probably no longer applies in 2014.

As for the BMI pilots/sympathisers who vigorously defend the tupe regs, I have some empathy. However, the irony and hypocrisy of a recruitment procedure that places such emphasises on aptitude, verbal reasoning and maths tests, group and individual interviews and then (let's face it) disregards it for 300 pilots is 'curious' to say the least. Of course, I would be equally pleased if I got into BA through the tupe route!

At the end of the day, we all fly very similar aeroplanes to very similar operating procedures. Some of us work far harder for a lot less money, and naturally feel rather jealous!
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 13:43
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Thanks kirungi1

Onwards and upwards.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 13:50
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the irony and hypocrisy of a recruitment procedure that places such emphasises on aptitude, verbal reasoning and maths tests, group and individual interviews and then (let's face it) disregards it for 300 pilots is 'curious' to say the least.
Do you think BA really had any choice? When BMI was taken over, BA weren't buying the pilots, they were buying the slots. This is not the first time that a group of pilots have joined BA without having had to pass selection. It's not ideal but, whether you like it or not, BA cannot disregard the law.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 15:56
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Is anyone else yet to find out their fate having done the first day of assessment? I did mine nearly two weeks ago and I've still not got a yay or nay...
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 10:53
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Ham Phisted,

Of course I know BA didn't have a choice, which is why I referred to TUPE and said it was ironic that their recruitment process was negated so spectacularly.

When your parent company (IAG) makes a commercial decision you have to bite the bullet... I'm sure there were lots of very good BMI pilots who joined BA's ranks, but there will have been those who joined but would never have passed selection.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 11:45
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There's no hypocrisy on BA's part which is what you you said. They had no choice.

I'm sure there were lots of very good BMI pilots who joined BA's ranks, but there will have been those who joined but would never have passed selection.
You are definitely correct with this assertion and I believe that BA has taken remedial action for those that have perhaps struggled to come to terms with the transition from BMI.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 21:37
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Went through the hoops today. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the capacity tests were downright awful. I expect nothing but a PFO. Best of luck to all applying, I really did find it very difficult.
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 12:58
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Why didn't the law apply to the bmibaby pilots?

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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 23:42
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Been advised that bid line will cease effective April 2015 not great news for planning your month ahead it's just another example of the downward slope at BA
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