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Old 6th Apr 2015, 10:22
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311 this year, similar number required next year, this from a senior manager to me last week!
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 10:25
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Great news but I'm a little dumbfounded. How does an airline go from hiring a trickle of pilots each year to over 300 without expansion?
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 10:43
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No need to be dumbfounded, it's the BA way.

How does an airline go from hiring a trickle of pilots each year to over 300 without expansion?
Quite easily. "They" have wanted to run the op with minimum recruitment for a long time...think bonuses....

However:

1. There are now genuine signs of a forthcoming retirement bulge....

2. IMHO "they" were critically under manned last year, which "they" just got away with, by the skin of "their" teeth, by driving through changes to the rostering system. Having used that remedy once "they" can't do it again....

As SinBin has said, at last management are now publicly saying they need more pilots.

In the meantime it's going to be an interesting few months with an increasing number of folks already hitting the 900 hour bell early in the summer season.
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 10:47
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Hi Superpilot,

BA are expanding, The slots aquired from BMI are slowly being turned into longhaul routes which require more pilots than short haul routes. Also next year is the start of retirements again, altough only a few expected more people are going part time.
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 13:47
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Do BA tend to run type rating courses for new hires over the summer, or do they take a break to ensure that it's all hands on deck for late July/all of August as some other airlines are known to? If so, when do new hire courses tend to restart? Hoping to get plucked out of the pool soon!
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 17:56
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Very much hope next years requirements are as quoted or a similar figure. After falling at the last hurdle in the 74 sim I very much would like another crack, hopefully with a better outcome. Any ideas when a new campaign will open?
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 09:27
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I see recruitment has opened again...
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 10:13
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Recruitment Open

Great news - I see that most of the positions are A320 SH from Gatwick or Heathrow...

Could anyone tell me if those are likely to be run as single-day flights, or would it be more of a 4-5 day 'tour' of short haul sectors?

Thanks
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 10:29
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As far as I know, at the moment LGW base for 320 has no nightstops

LHR, is a mix of day trips and 2/3/4/5 day tours.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 11:19
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While we're talking about nightstops, how easy is it for a junior LHR FO to get mainly day trips on the A320 fleet? If living within an hour of LHR, what sort of trips would provide the best quality of life for a new joiner with a young family?
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 11:46
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Thumbs up BA Pilot jobs.....

Just heard from a friend of mine that BA are recruiting Direct Entry Pilots again


Check out their careers website for details.


Getting my application ready now.....
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 11:50
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With the levels of recruitment on at the moment, you won't stay junior for very long, and day trips are easy to come by, only had 1 blindline in my time at BA. They're not the most popular trips as they usually carry low credit (ie you have to work more days to meet CAP) the higher credit day trips are usually hoovered up by more senior bods! For instance there are a few charters this summer that carry 9hr+ credit for one day's work, a typical GVA and back carries 4hr30 credit, so you get my drift. The other thing to remember is swapping is very easy at BA, all done online mutually between pilots on the emaestro system.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 12:16
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Still inside the 12 month rule : ( ! How come its opened again so soon with guys still being assess from last years applications? Will it open again towards the end if the year?
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 13:21
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To be fair to BA, it's been nearly six months since they closed the last window. If they need more bodies to fill positions before the end of the year, then why not open the window again? Many people who weren't in a position to apply back in October 2014 may well now be able to. I'm sure your chance will come again HP.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 18:23
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Training capacity is a huge issue this year. I believe BA have re-opened in the hope of attracting more rated applicants and thus reduce the training footprint. We need guys on line this summer, not six months, which is effectively how long it will take for a non rated applicant accepting an offer to release to line.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 22:12
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Chief Pilots Letter

We had a letter from the Chief Pilots today, obviously I can't post it here but there was a section dedicated to growth & recruitment. It confirmed 311 new pilots this year & SIMILAR NUMBERS NEXT YEAR REQUIRED. So good news for those of you wishing to apply/re-apply..... There will be plenty of opportunities for all

I hope this brings a ray of light to a few! Good luck to those that are in the process or about to apply in this Newly opened round.
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 06:31
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BASHLH

We had a letter from the Chief Pilots today, obviously I can't post it here ....
Oh go on, you know you want to.

As well as the sunny bit you mention about recruiting there were the cuddly feely bits about never being late (regardless of the state of the ground infrastructure and how long it takes to park your car - I think the record for that is over an hour) and hints/concerns over sickness levels /fatigue (despite the state of the Short Haul flying program) , I think the rest was mostly along the lines of "morale", "leave" and "cancelling until"..or something similar.

Anyhow joking aside it is going to be an interesting summer for short haul, from what I've heard all the DEPS were needed on line yesterday so I suspect the recruiting will continue full speed ahead for quite a while.

P.S. In all seriousness you're right...don't post that letter.

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Old 11th Apr 2015, 11:56
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Then maybe time they reviewed their selection procedure.

Instead of rejecting pilots with glowing records from other top rated UK and overseas airlines at stage one.

There were reports on another thread of a couple selected from UK LOCO who didn't cut the mustard when training started.
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 12:53
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rossjmc. Your post about me makes no sense. Gloat ! Why would I gloat. Still at the LoCo. And no, it is not rubbish. Officially utilising a "right to return".

And if you think the computer tests indicate anything significant and are not biased to those closer to their "education days employed playing computer games" instead of those having to devote their time working and bringing up children then you are really silly.

And, as I assume (but might be wrong) you have been selected, then who is it gloating by posting on here ?
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 13:31
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Having just gone through the process I found it to be incredibly fair and balanced. There are no secrets to it, do your homework, prepare comprehensively and you'll make it through each stage. BA were nothing but extremely fair, friendly and efficient the whole way through. I've never been through such a well balanced selection, despite working for three previous airlines.

All the information you need to pass is out there. That coupled together with well focused preparation and a good attitude will get you through.

In the last 24 hours I've had two people send me private messages asking me to send them a copy of my application so that they can see what they need to put on their applications and in their essay questions to 'tick the boxes'. Frankly I think that attitude is appalling. I put an awful lot of time and energy into my application, thinking of the qualities I have to offer BA and what they can offer me in return. If you have to ask to copy another persons application then you may as well not bother applying. It's lazy, deceitful and shows no real initiative or drive. There are no shortcuts. If you want it, work for it. Even the much debated computer tests can be prepared for.

Believe me, I know how bitter rejection can taste, I have had my fair share of knock backs. Passing the BA process is very achievable but it takes a lot of hard graft, including focusing on areas that may not initially seem too relevant to our jobs. They set the standard, it's their trainset after all.

Good luck to everyone applying.
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