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Old 7th Mar 2016, 06:31
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highfive

what fleet does what and the bid lines.
Sorry to be an old f*** but just a bit of a health warning - be wary of some of the old info pertaining to Long Haul (even if it's from the recruitment team and even if it's recent)...and remember (?) Bid Line is going.

Firstly fleet destinations change seasonally, if not more frequently. Secondly any Long Haul final rosters produced before Feb '16 won't reflect the significant EASA driven changes that came in that month. Also be aware that by the end of next year under JSS heaven knows what the monthly roster will look like.....(e.g. one big change will be the introduction of pre-constructed Long Haul back to backs)

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Old 7th Mar 2016, 06:56
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Sorry, I wasn't too clear. I was trying to ask are there any P74X, P77X, P38X, P76X, P78X or are those fleets only LHR based?

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That wasn't an exhaustive list, just a few examples to give you an idea of how the "coding" worked - there are lots and lots of C32L and P32L ....
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 07:07
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Sorry, I wasn't too clear. I was trying to ask are there any P74X, P77X, P38X, P76X, P78X or are those fleets only LHR based?
Ah, got it. Only two BA mainline types routinely operate out of LGW - A320s and 777s.

The BA 320s based at Gatwick have dedicated LGW based crews (C32X and P32X).

The BA 777s operated out of Gatwick are crewed by Heathrow based pilots ( they do a mix of LHR and LGW trips, but on paper they are LHR based).

Everything else is LHR, except I guess the LCY subfleet...which I'll leave to somebody else.

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Old 7th Mar 2016, 08:19
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Only if the individual wishes to do them & the same applies to Current Ops. If you don't want to, you don't have to...or have I missed something?!
I think you're right..until the company needs them regardless of preferences to ensure work coverage ...
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 08:29
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As someone going through the recruitment process at the moment a couple of questions please

Glad to hear the back to back scheduling is still an option. Do the company provide accommodation between trips? Are back to back trips easy to come by or are they much coveted?

Also, the 777 out of LGW; Are the trips out of there generally quite senior or as a new start are you likely to get a sniff?

Some great information on this thread so many thanks to all
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 09:04
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Are back to back trips easy to come by or are they much coveted?
At the moment in the normal process the company do not produce back to back trips that you bid for. Individuals create them ad-hoc, either by a combination of stage 1 and then stage 2 bidding or by trip swopping after final rosters are produced. Under EASA creating legal back to backs has become much more difficult than was the case before (basically nowadays the first trip of the pair has to involve a <= 3 hour time zone change from London, which restricts options).


Do the company provide accommodation between trips?
At the moment assume the answer is no. If you do manage to create a back to back, you pay for it.

When/if people start working pre-constructed back to backs (as previously debated) then for some trip combinations the company will have to provide accomodation - at the moment we're being told that's probably not going to happen until the introduction of JSS late next year.

As far as LGW is concerned, you may get a sniff but there's a certainly hard core who like the beach...
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 09:11
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It was suggested to me that a lot of the Middle East flights will suddenly become quite senior rather than populating junior blind lines due to the time difference being very favourable for back to backs.

Fingers crossed...
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 09:23
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"will suddenly"....

Suddenly? As in midnight 26th March ???

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Old 7th Mar 2016, 13:17
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Originally Posted by highfive View Post
I previously attended a BA roadshow . I recorded the whole thing, inc the questions and answer session with Lindsey Craig and his colleagues. 90 mins of Lots of interesting stuff inc heads up of useful information on the interviews and where BA is going and what fleet does what and the bid lines.

If anyone wants it, please PM me and i will put it on You Tube if enough folks have intrest .
I'd be very grateful in the recording. However, I can't work out how to PM you (new here)

Kind Regards
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 14:31
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BA are going to be "saved by" British Summer Time!
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 12:19
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I may have missed some information?

Can some confirm that you no longer need jet hours, and the Turb-prop weight limit has been reduced to be able to apply for direct long haul.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 16:31
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Originally Posted by Kirk out View Post
I may have missed some information?

Can some confirm that you no longer need jet hours, and the Turb-prop weight limit has been reduced to be able to apply for direct long haul.
Not sure what the official line is but at the moment (8th March) this is in part what is written on the BA Longhaul DEP requirements page at:

British Airways - Careers - Job Details

To hold a current type rating, an ATPL(A) and have a minimum of 2000 hours total flying experience including 1000 hours on Jet transport category aircraft with MTOM greater than 25 tonnes or multi-crew turboprop transport aircraft/military equivalent with MTOM greater than 50 tonnes. Candidates must also have relevant experience, on an aircraft enabling a ZFT training course, within the 12 months preceding the start of their BA conversion course
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 17:28
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I hear that some people are going straight from a prop (atr and dash8) direct to 777 and 747.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 18:26
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Curse my A320 rating!! Still as long as their start date is after mine I'll be laughing in the long run. I hope.

Don't forget these people may have previous Jet time, especially in the case of Q400 Captains coming over from Flybe where they would have banked the jet time requirement on the Embraer as FOs and SFOs.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 18:53
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Originally Posted by highfive View Post
I previously attended a BA roadshow . I recorded the whole thing, inc the questions and answer session with Lindsey Craig and his colleagues. 90 mins of Lots of interesting stuff inc heads up of useful information on the interviews and where BA is going and what fleet does what and the bid lines.

If anyone wants it, please PM me and i will put it on You Tube if enough folks have intrest .
HIghfive,

I would have thought that if you put it up on Youtube and gave a link to it on this thread and the "Wannabees" forum it would become very popular very quickly!
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 10:01
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Is anyone who is flying long haul at BA and has had new children during that time willing to answer some questions via PM?
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Old 10th Mar 2016, 01:12
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Yep. Go ahead and I'll have a stab at them for you
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Old 10th Mar 2016, 11:23
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Sorry to change the subject however I am confused about some wording in the application, it says 12 months if you were unsuccessful at any stage of testing/interview/simulator assessment. You are welcome to reapply 12 months from the date you attended initial aptitude testing. I was invited back to do the interview again approx 8 months ago without having to do stage one again however my initial aptitude testing was 2 years ago, so as i see it i can apply?
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 08:08
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Polepilot-If I were you I'd probably call the recruitment team to confirm. They have been very helpful on all the occasions I made any telephone queries during the recruitment process. The worst outcome would be to put in all the work and fall foul of something as minor as the 12month rule. Good luck!

On a slightly different topic- are there any fellow LH hold pool swimmers that have been allocated courses in Jul and Aug yet? I'm guessing the average lead time on call to course is 3-4 months due to the notice period most recruits have with their own operators. It seems the first half of the year for DEPs had a distinctly 787 slant. Does anyone know if this is still the case or are other fleets now soaking up some of the new entries?
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 16:32
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RC10: I know people that have been offered 777 courses recently, with their start dates being in June.
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