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Old 28th Feb 2016, 11:34
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I'm with Rex on this one, nothing wrong with a couple of hours practice in a 737 just to remember what trimming is like (after flying Airbus for years).

Whoever's assessing your sim will be experienced at the game and will know straight away if you've spent several hours having a go at it
They'll also want to know you've put the work in, nothing wrong with being keen. Not doing some practice may be seen as being lazy.
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 12:04
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I agree with Rex. I personally did have one session. Having never flown a large 4 engine aircraft before, to then go in and fly a fairly in depth sim assessment, to at least have some idea as to where the instruments etc are was invaluable. It didn't make me outstanding on the day, but it did allow me to free up some capacity to concentrate on making sensible decisions, and show some CRM with my sim partner, which is what they are actually looking for.

The best advice I was given was, make sure your sim partner looks good, and you'll pass.

The BA assessments are mostly about the prep, and independently putting the work in. I prepped for day one, I spent a month doing practice interviews and thinking through every question I could find for day two, so what would have been the point in going to day 3 completely cold.

Having said all this, I think paying for a 10/12 hour course is a bit over kill, and really not necessary.

Best of Luck!
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 16:49
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Has anyone who attended BA's day 1 selection recently able to confirm that the verbal reasoning test has changed?
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 16:56
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Selection Day 1

Hi all,

Got the good news I have been invited for day 1. Could anyone who has been there recently (or is going soon!) give any feedback? It would be great to talk to someone to ease the nerves ☺. PMs welcome!

Thanks, Dupre.
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Old 29th Feb 2016, 09:13
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Just wondering how long it took for people to hear an outcome from day 1? They said 5 days but I seem to remember from the past that people with a "yes" tend to hear quickly and the PFO's are left till last, is this the case? It's been 5 days for me so far and my hopes are fading fast, refreshing my emails every 5 minutes is driving me mad.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 07:19
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Enzo999, it depends entirely on how busy they are, it took nearly 2 weeks for me to hear last year, and I was sucessful!
HTH and good luck!
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 16:06
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Has anyone got any news/rumours about the direct entry NTR SH recruitment that has been going on over the past couple of weeks and any idea how many they were looking to take this time round?
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 09:33
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I know from chatting to friends at Flybe that some who were previously "frozen" in the recruitment process have been melted and are progressing to interview/sim but no "inside" information beyond that.
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 11:34
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Originally Posted by Fursty Ferret View Post
Don't pay for a practice sim.

Whoever's assessing your sim will be experienced at the game and will know straight away if you've spent several hours having a go at it (esp. if you went from PA34 for A320 like many people).

You get an unassessed take-off, circuit, approach and landing for "free" at the start of the session and you figure out what the steering wheel thing is fairly quickly. The assessor was shouting "TRIM!" from the back during mine so it's not like they throw you in at the deep end to see what happens.
Terrible advice.
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 12:31
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Recent Interview Questions

Hi everyone,

Going to the second stage interview next week.

Just wondered if the format was pretty much the same as it has been the last few years?

Collected some various example questions but everything seems to be for 2014 and later, the same as what seems to be on PPRuNe.

If anyone had some updated info/questions I'd really appreciate it.
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 12:37
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Actually not practising is not terrible advice. It really depends on where you are coming from. I got through on the 757 sim without paying thousands of pounds for a practice sim. Currently flying a 737 out in the middle east and smashed a few raw data ILS's and departures before coming but otherwise just concentrated on honing my CRM skills and such like, I believe that's what they are really looking for.
Thats not to say paying for a sim is a complete waste of money but try and use the resources on offer to you in your current job if you can. Talk to CRM trainers, practice hand flying and delve into the CAA books on CRM.

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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 20:40
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Paying for a couple of hours in a sim is a good idea - if that's what it takes to give you the confidence / heads up to give the BA sim your best shot.

Let's face it - 500-1500 or whatever it costs, it's the cheapest type rating you'll ever do these days!
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 20:50
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Well said Boing7117 - the last bit is very true. Someone above said that it made no sense to prepare long and hard for day 1 and 2 and go to the sim rusty. So a few hours to remove that would certainly be advisable, however my advice would be to ensure you show improvement during the sim. I'm sure they want to see that you have good CRM and just as important, that you are trainable. They are investing a type rating in you most likely, so showing improvement I think looks far better then flying like an ace who's had numerous hours practice prior to the assessment.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 09:58
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Hi All,

Think the subject has been mentioned a couple of times before, anyone who could shed some light on the obnoxious 12 months ban. Is BA going to change it anytime soon?? A 6 months ban these days would make much more sense IMO.

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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 14:57
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More sense for whom, you or BA?
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 15:42
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haha - for him I guess, but it's nice to have a bit of confidence and think for BA too

I've failed day 1 a few times now, does that automatically mean I won't be an asset to the company the day I finally pass?
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 18:27
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Regarding the sim, there is no one size fits all answer. If you fly short haul on a Boeing type, just doing some raw data flying and armchair prep will leave you fine. If you fly the 320, raw data might also be enough (it was all my sim partner, who passed, did) though equally reminding yourself what thrust levers and the trim switch do might also help.

If you are flying long haul, I would imagine some specific sim prep for a high workload raw data manual flying exercise would be a very good idea. We are generally judges of our own strengths and weaknesses on the flight deck and you will probably know what's best for you.

If you are flying a turboprop the whole thing will probably feel like a rest cure, though if you are worried about a slippery jet a sim might help boost your confidence.

They are not necessarily looking for "improvement" as such, but I was told in my briefing we were being assessed on:

- flying ability
- command potential/decision making
- trainability

Best of luck!
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 18:54
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They're also looking to see a positive learning curve ie a continuous improvement through the session such that the applicant demonstrates trainability (apologises for made-up word).
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 20:06
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Well, I guess for both. ahaha yep that is idealistic.
Anyway I guess I should take that for a no. So I have to imagine the guys that were called back before the 12 months expired were already rated on a type BA is currently using.
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Old 4th Mar 2016, 13:28
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Bidline/Fixed Flying Pay

Result of ballot on pay deal just announced, long story short, the two main bullet points probably of most relevance to prospective joiners are:

1. Bidline will go ASAP in favour of a customised version of JSS.

2. Fixed monthly Flying Pay Allowance binned, it's back to the variable Flying Hour Rate.
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