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From: Up!
I had an E-mail yesterday to the same effect. Leaves me a tad nervous as a service leaver without the long haul requirements (or type rating). Any other military hold pool swimmers here heard any good news?
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From: Up!
Fast-Jet (unfortunately in this case!) so frozen ATPL only. it did mean I could apply and am into the hold pool, but I suspect it leaves me less than ideally placed given the current slots and costs to train (can't blame them, just a bit of a pain!).
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From: Planet Moo Moo
Yep, sorry but you don't qualify for ZFT onto LH on either weight or unfrozen ATPL so it'll be SH for you. 
1500 hours to unfreeze will take about 2-3 years max! Who knows what happens after that!
1500 hours to unfreeze will take about 2-3 years max! Who knows what happens after that!
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From: Up!
That's very true! As long as I can get in in the first place! I am hopeful as I have been looking forward to this new challenge for a while. I can stick with my nail biting until next Autumn before I panic too much, hopefully better news for the SH non-type rated folk by then.
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From: Scotland
Father Jack/OttoMatic - well said both. I guess the frustration would be lower had BA made clear offers were not guaranteed but were type and background dependent. The job advert in fact does make the preference for you rated candidates clear but the various pronouncements regarding "jobs for all" from members of the recruitment team have been counterproductive. However, Those of you who say BA are solely profit-driven should try working for a real low-cost airline. You ain't seen nothing!
Regarding the places that are available, are offers likely for the 767 still or is it mainly 777/787 with the odd 747 and 380?
Regarding the places that are available, are offers likely for the 767 still or is it mainly 777/787 with the odd 747 and 380?
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From: Planet Moo Moo
No 767, it's a dying fleet.
777/787 yes.
747 yes
380 I would guess that there are more than enough internal applicants plus they have some.....'interesting' requirements for the 380 (must be previously airbus qualified)
Ammended:
There is a requirement for DEP's onto the 380 apparently.
777/787 yes.
747 yes
380 I would guess that there are more than enough internal applicants plus they have some.....'interesting' requirements for the 380 (must be previously airbus qualified)
Ammended:
There is a requirement for DEP's onto the 380 apparently.
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From: London
Has anyone received any offer since the email was sent? Just wondering when one could possibly expect a call.
And Im guessing being rated on one of BA's LH fleet almost guarantees that, if the offer does eventually arrive, it will be for that fleet?
Having done most of my research relating to the 320, could somebody give an indication of the current bottom of the list blind lines rosters on the 787, and 777. Anything would be VERY appreciated!
Thanks
And Im guessing being rated on one of BA's LH fleet almost guarantees that, if the offer does eventually arrive, it will be for that fleet?
Having done most of my research relating to the 320, could somebody give an indication of the current bottom of the list blind lines rosters on the 787, and 777. Anything would be VERY appreciated!
Thanks
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From: Netherlands
Hi guys.
Good to hear that BA is hiring so many pilots this year.
Does anyone have any information about the pilotneed for the years after 2016? Im A320 TR and in the hold pool at the moment. Would be great senioritywise if this recruitment will continue.
Brgds,
NLP
Good to hear that BA is hiring so many pilots this year.
Does anyone have any information about the pilotneed for the years after 2016? Im A320 TR and in the hold pool at the moment. Would be great senioritywise if this recruitment will continue.
Brgds,
NLP
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From: UK
As a lowly TP driver who's been in the pool for quite a while...
I'm not bothered by rated people getting start dates ahead of me. It makes absolute sense for BA to take as many rated people as they can, as they'll be on the line far quicker.
I'm not bothered by guys with less hours than me but with a bit of jet time getting long-haul slots. Someone, somewhere has decided that the limit for those types is x amount of jet hours. That's cool. I can very much understand the frustrations of those on the A320 fleet that may be denied the opportunity to move on however.
I'm not bothered with on-going recruitment - there are a lot of seats to fill across all types.
What bothers me is the real possibility that after doing my very best to pass each stage of the assessment process, being told that 'there are jobs for all' and that 'nobody will get left behind', that I will not get to join BA after all. That really, really worries me.
I'm not bothered by rated people getting start dates ahead of me. It makes absolute sense for BA to take as many rated people as they can, as they'll be on the line far quicker.
I'm not bothered by guys with less hours than me but with a bit of jet time getting long-haul slots. Someone, somewhere has decided that the limit for those types is x amount of jet hours. That's cool. I can very much understand the frustrations of those on the A320 fleet that may be denied the opportunity to move on however.
I'm not bothered with on-going recruitment - there are a lot of seats to fill across all types.
What bothers me is the real possibility that after doing my very best to pass each stage of the assessment process, being told that 'there are jobs for all' and that 'nobody will get left behind', that I will not get to join BA after all. That really, really worries me.
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From: Planet Moo Moo
Blueskyrich,
From what I can gather it is all down to training capacity on the Bus. They've had to contract out as it is as they are behind due to the sim moves to TBA.
I'm sure your time will come. I know they are looking at the hold pool to try and empty it.
From what I can gather it is all down to training capacity on the Bus. They've had to contract out as it is as they are behind due to the sim moves to TBA.
I'm sure your time will come. I know they are looking at the hold pool to try and empty it.
Last edited by Wirbelsturm; 20th November 2015 at 15:17. Reason: grammer!!
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From: Button Moon
The 767 is indeed a dying fleet, but it's not dead yet. Recently heard that recruitment onto the fleet will continue for the short-medium term. This allows people further up the list to depart for pastures new.
Of course this comes with the usual health warning that accompanies all rumours. But never say never.
Of course this comes with the usual health warning that accompanies all rumours. But never say never.
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From: England
Hi all,
I am reluctant to contradict Wirblesturm, but as 2W2R says recruitment for the 767 is continuing, at 2-4 a month for the forseeable future. Now as it is 1730 on Fri night that probably only takes us until 0830 on Mon morning
. New Trainers are being trained to help with the training and allow other trainers to move to other fleets to help with training there.
New recruits onto the 767 allow the senior FOs to move off. Beware that the fleet is due to shut in 2018 so people joining now will still be within their engagement freeze so BA could send you wherever they want. It could be longhaul but it could be to the A320.
Regards
I am reluctant to contradict Wirblesturm, but as 2W2R says recruitment for the 767 is continuing, at 2-4 a month for the forseeable future. Now as it is 1730 on Fri night that probably only takes us until 0830 on Mon morning
. New Trainers are being trained to help with the training and allow other trainers to move to other fleets to help with training there.New recruits onto the 767 allow the senior FOs to move off. Beware that the fleet is due to shut in 2018 so people joining now will still be within their engagement freeze so BA could send you wherever they want. It could be longhaul but it could be to the A320.
Regards
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From: Somewhere
If DEP to the A380 is going on and it is a cost game, as people have been saying (probably correctly), then why are A320 people being told not to expect long haul? Correct me if I'm wrong but Boeing/Embraer rated guys are going to have to do the full 6 week type rating course whereas A320 bods can get the rating done in two weeks max on a CCQ. Or is this a case of BA managing expectations for those in the pool?
