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From: Planet Moo Moo
About 5 years at the moment. Maybe less if BA agree to waive engagement freezes.
There is always a reason when Commands go so junior. You will be stuck on SH for a very long time and at the bottom of the seniority list! Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going! Consider the fact that a lot of the Captains from Gatwick on the initial run of Airbii there went back to the RHS of LH!
Says something doesn't it!
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From: Botswana
Jetting I've been told different. My sources say 3000 total, 1000 Jet above 50 Tonnes MTOW and ATPL. Direct Entry Long Haul is going to be scarce though this year by all accounts, although still will happen in small numbers. My guess is those with command experience.
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From: Scotland
My understanding of long haul hours is the same as jetting's - I think it was mentioned at the roadshows.
They also said they are expecting still to recruit onto the 767 though if the fleet dies inside your engagement freeze you will hopefully get some element of choice in where you go next.
They also said they are expecting still to recruit onto the 767 though if the fleet dies inside your engagement freeze you will hopefully get some element of choice in where you go next.
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From: UK
Thanks RexBanner. I don't meet the requirements either way!
My guess would be that LH slots will go to those with a Boeing rating, particularly as it has been mentioned many times that training capacity is stretched.
Any idea if the long haul hours requirement applies to the 76?
My guess would be that LH slots will go to those with a Boeing rating, particularly as it has been mentioned many times that training capacity is stretched.
Any idea if the long haul hours requirement applies to the 76?
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From: Sunnydale
Rexbanner,
I've been told completely different. I've been told that DEP on to long haul in 2016 will be at similar levels as in 2015. I guess when the PRIAM results are published everyone will have a better idea of actual numbers.
I've been told completely different. I've been told that DEP on to long haul in 2016 will be at similar levels as in 2015. I guess when the PRIAM results are published everyone will have a better idea of actual numbers.
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From: Botswana
I think we've all been told completely different as when I did my sim the instructor said it was 3000 Total, PPJN says 2000 Total including 1000 Jet and you guys are saying 2000 Jet!
I think the Boeing type rating is a bit of a moot point unless they have 777 rated guys in the pool who could slot in on the 787. There's no CCQ on the Boeings like Airbus that would reduce the training footprint, 737 to 747/767/777/787 for instance is still a full type rating.
I think the Boeing type rating is a bit of a moot point unless they have 777 rated guys in the pool who could slot in on the 787. There's no CCQ on the Boeings like Airbus that would reduce the training footprint, 737 to 747/767/777/787 for instance is still a full type rating.
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From: Outta town
Plenty of EASA rated B777 guys in EK would consider Long Haul. Not much life on SH A320. Thats for your ab initio 200 hour low timers.
But I hear they getting EZ captains applying for RHS, so what do I know..
But I hear they getting EZ captains applying for RHS, so what do I know..
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From: Close to minimums
I've seen plenty of colleagues (including captains) from my current airline join BA on the B747 and A320, even a few on the B767 and B787. I also know several former colleagues who were flying the B777 in the Middle East who all joined on the B747. So you just don't know, all depends on what course is available at the time.
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From: England
Hi all,
Recruitment is continuing for the foreseeable future (although that may only be about 24 hours
) onto the 767. This is because there is spare training capacity on the fleet and it allows those at the top of the fleet list to bid off.
The discussion of long haul hours for the 767 may be moot as we are down to only 3 long haul hulls as of December. The last LH 767 is planned to retire around Jul/Aug next year so it will become a short haul only fleet.
The 767 fleet is due to be retired entirely in mid to late 2018 although there are always rumours that it may go much sooner or last much longer. Be aware that if you come to the 767 and it folds before your 5 year engagement freeze is up you will be BA's bitch, to do with as they please. In all probability that may well mean being directed to the 320.
regards
Recruitment is continuing for the foreseeable future (although that may only be about 24 hours
) onto the 767. This is because there is spare training capacity on the fleet and it allows those at the top of the fleet list to bid off.The discussion of long haul hours for the 767 may be moot as we are down to only 3 long haul hulls as of December. The last LH 767 is planned to retire around Jul/Aug next year so it will become a short haul only fleet.
The 767 fleet is due to be retired entirely in mid to late 2018 although there are always rumours that it may go much sooner or last much longer. Be aware that if you come to the 767 and it folds before your 5 year engagement freeze is up you will be BA's bitch, to do with as they please. In all probability that may well mean being directed to the 320.
regards
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From: Botswana
Thanks binsleepen, has the issue of offers/start dates now officially recommenced? (Interested hold pooler who would absolutely love a crack at the 767, short haul or otherwise).
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From: Under the table
I suppose if you're 'stuck' on the 'Bus you may as well be 'stuck' in the LHS.
There is always a reason when Commands go so junior. You will be stuck on SH for a very long time and at the bottom of the seniority list! Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going! Consider the fact that a lot of the Captains from Gatwick on the initial run of Airbii there went back to the RHS of LH!
Says something doesn't it!
There is always a reason when Commands go so junior. You will be stuck on SH for a very long time and at the bottom of the seniority list! Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going! Consider the fact that a lot of the Captains from Gatwick on the initial run of Airbii there went back to the RHS of LH!
Says something doesn't it!
I heard that every day when I was a TLH at LHR. "You won't have any control, Carmen screws everyone" "Gatwick will go under and you'll all be out of a job" etc etc, blah blah. I was just answering the question without adding an opinion, but seeing as you had one...
Personally I quite like being at home every night, with pretty much every weekend off. And I'm not remotely the most senior man there. I was at home before on-blocks time the other day. If you live close and it suits you, it's the best kept secret in BA!
You big-jet boys can keep your toys and your night time atlantic crossings, I'm happy as larry here.
