Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?
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Better discussed on REPA maybe?
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The first thing you get after giving notice is all leave cancelled, you are worked to the max max and they rob your last pay check as a "fine".
I never had any of my leave cancelled after I handed in my notice, neither has any of my colleagues, I have not worked any harder than would do normally during a summer (60 odd hours in July is not exactly busting my balls) and from the guys that I know that have left (and that is plenty despite the memo) evey single one of them has been paid whay they are owed at the end of their time with the company both basic pay and sector pay for the hours flown during their final month.
By no means am I supporter of anything to do with the place anymore but come on guys lets cut the crap eh?
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Until such time that flights are being cancelled due shortage of crew( and i suspect FR would never admit to it but blame boeing or the Irish government) then nothing will change, Easyjet got them selfsame into this position last year, not now though.
Pilots leaving means more income for the flight training department, unless the run out of Captains!!
Pilots leaving means more income for the flight training department, unless the run out of Captains!!
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Cloud bunny,
You might want to check your facts. Having resigned, I can confirm that I was advised my leave would be cancelled and that any absence due to illness would be deducted from my pay. If you want to confirm it for yourself, check the 'Rough Guide to Ryanair' - it's all in there.
So just because it didn't happen to you, don't assume that your colleagues are not being shafted (a common attitude which may go some way to explaining the current predicament of Ryanair pilots).
Enjoy your new job.
You might want to check your facts. Having resigned, I can confirm that I was advised my leave would be cancelled and that any absence due to illness would be deducted from my pay. If you want to confirm it for yourself, check the 'Rough Guide to Ryanair' - it's all in there.
So just because it didn't happen to you, don't assume that your colleagues are not being shafted (a common attitude which may go some way to explaining the current predicament of Ryanair pilots).
Enjoy your new job.
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Okay fair enough. Maybe because there are so many people on so many difference deals and contracts it would be helpful to specify.
It is, sadly, no surprise they would seek to "shaft" Brookfield guys as thats the whole point in forcing people onto them when they join the company so it gives them that flexibilty. It's not right and it's not fair.
My comments are purely bourne from experience and that is that I had no leave cancelled, didn't work any harder than usual and of the guys that flew out of the door first, none of them has been "shafted" in any way regarding pay. I am not, Adolf, if you read the post properly referring purely to the experience of myself but also alluding to the experiences of the friends and colleagues I know personally who have left prior to me. Please dont make assumptions based on my character, I am not and never have been one of the "I'm alright Jack" brigade. I am leaving the company for a vastly better opportunity and I would be leaving regardless of how well the company treated all of us as a Pilot group.
It is, sadly, no surprise they would seek to "shaft" Brookfield guys as thats the whole point in forcing people onto them when they join the company so it gives them that flexibilty. It's not right and it's not fair.
My comments are purely bourne from experience and that is that I had no leave cancelled, didn't work any harder than usual and of the guys that flew out of the door first, none of them has been "shafted" in any way regarding pay. I am not, Adolf, if you read the post properly referring purely to the experience of myself but also alluding to the experiences of the friends and colleagues I know personally who have left prior to me. Please dont make assumptions based on my character, I am not and never have been one of the "I'm alright Jack" brigade. I am leaving the company for a vastly better opportunity and I would be leaving regardless of how well the company treated all of us as a Pilot group.
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Well if its the same email i got, then only the captains are getting a payrise, so obviously a ploy to get the SFO's coming up for command, to hang around and enjoy the extra income, rather than leave the company for greener pastures. I'll stand corrected if they turn round and give the FO's a payrise!!
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Contract renweal will most likely mean getting on the 3-man company scam wagon, which will return some of the money to them. And by the way, my contract states a CP rate of 138,50/SBH that's a 6,50 pay rise, not 21,00....
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I'm on the old brk contract which is due to run out next year and have also turned down command. There really is no incentive for me to stay or work my 3 months notice as if I leave I won't be allowed back. In fact scrub the "if" and insert "when".
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I'm much the same with the CU pressure starting to pile on but fail to see the point. I'm fairly comfortable where i'm based at the moment and the thought of somewhere out in the ar@e end of nowhere with a 10% paycut is just not worth it. 
What really worries me is that with the new upgrades on old contracts, whats stopping them nailing us with these Macna sh!t contracts when ours start running out. My concern is because looking at the Cpt's on them, they've had no word about a rise or anything changing. (cheaky buggers still sent them the email though)
In my 3 years I have not seen the guys and girls so unhappy with FR
What really worries me is that with the new upgrades on old contracts, whats stopping them nailing us with these Macna sh!t contracts when ours start running out. My concern is because looking at the Cpt's on them, they've had no word about a rise or anything changing. (cheaky buggers still sent them the email though)In my 3 years I have not seen the guys and girls so unhappy with FR
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I wouldn't give up my old BRK contract for the new one. The rate increase is small. The pay decrease due to paying Irish tax and inefficient accountancy will make this a pay cut for me. I'm happy on my old one. So Mr DD, you know where to shove your new contract, force me on it and you force me to leave. Only way I will accept it is If I can continue to do my own accounts and not forced to choose between those Troy McClures.
This whole new agency, smells nasty to me. Seems another layer of diversity is being implemented.
This whole new agency, smells nasty to me. Seems another layer of diversity is being implemented.
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Tanker all the way,trip to the canaries? well round trip it,then take more on below!!
Take care on your travels,and enjoy your next job.
Just remember,the grass is not always greener on the other side,oh hold on,there is no grass in dubai!! there goes declan ryans theory!! Enjoy being appreciated for what we do,
Take care on your travels,and enjoy your next job.
Just remember,the grass is not always greener on the other side,oh hold on,there is no grass in dubai!! there goes declan ryans theory!! Enjoy being appreciated for what we do,
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At my last airline, orange management came up with this great cost saving initiative to remove crew tea and coffee.
So the next months fuel bill mysteriously went up by approximately £400,000.
2 weeks later an email from the boss saying 'got the message'.
You have more power than you think.
So the next months fuel bill mysteriously went up by approximately £400,000.
2 weeks later an email from the boss saying 'got the message'.
You have more power than you think.
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Why doesn't MOL or ez put a 0.50c crew food charge into every ticket. Crews happy and they even make a profit. Pax are used to being suckered evry new day. Trouble is if LF is below 30% crew goes hungry. Back to the drawing board.