Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?
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You don't brief your arrival and approach?
Lets say to elect to perform a visual approach, do you assume your colleague knows what you are attempting to perform? Sounds to me like you need to work on your CRM.
Do not take my comment out of context. I will re-iterate for you; if a chap I was flying with disconnected the autopilot and removed the FD's in IMC when we anticipated an approach to minimums I would ask them to reinstate the autopilot/FD's otherwise take control and there would be a discussion as to the manner of his or her conduct. Is this not obvious why?
I dont fly an ancient turbo prop/MEP anymore, thats not how we do business in Ryanair. Put your wife and kids in an aircraft where some cavalier bloke is ding what the f@ck he or she feels like just to try and be the big man, i put it to you it will change your perception.
My flying skills are just fine, I just play it safe. Like I said earlier as well, we all practice in the sim many times every 6 months and do OK.
Despeague - Re-read what you have written and see how immature it appears. Nothing you have written is correct or appropriate just a knee-jerk wild stab in the dark as a thought popped into your mind.
Lets say to elect to perform a visual approach, do you assume your colleague knows what you are attempting to perform? Sounds to me like you need to work on your CRM.
Do not take my comment out of context. I will re-iterate for you; if a chap I was flying with disconnected the autopilot and removed the FD's in IMC when we anticipated an approach to minimums I would ask them to reinstate the autopilot/FD's otherwise take control and there would be a discussion as to the manner of his or her conduct. Is this not obvious why?
I dont fly an ancient turbo prop/MEP anymore, thats not how we do business in Ryanair. Put your wife and kids in an aircraft where some cavalier bloke is ding what the f@ck he or she feels like just to try and be the big man, i put it to you it will change your perception.
My flying skills are just fine, I just play it safe. Like I said earlier as well, we all practice in the sim many times every 6 months and do OK.
Despeague - Re-read what you have written and see how immature it appears. Nothing you have written is correct or appropriate just a knee-jerk wild stab in the dark as a thought popped into your mind.
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I suggest you read: http://www.merrowresidents.org/pprun...g%20Skills.pdf
If handfllying feels "unsafe" to you it is perhaps a sign that things are not as they should be?
My flying skills are just fine, I just play it safe
If handfllying feels "unsafe" to you it is perhaps a sign that things are not as they should be?
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There should be more hand flying in FR. People seems to be scared with that, some inexperienced FO think it's not allowed, because some Captains don't encourage them to do it, or even worse discourage them to do it.
If weather permitting and airmanship tells you to do it, you should hand fly the plane, and at the same time you still can do all the SOP's while flying manual, this is why we are paid for, to fly safely the plane but some pleople (CPT and FO) unable to do it manual. Because it's cloudy or rainy, that's not reason enough not to fly the plane ( weather close to minimums could be).
When hand fly is forbidden in FR, I will be out of here.
If weather permitting and airmanship tells you to do it, you should hand fly the plane, and at the same time you still can do all the SOP's while flying manual, this is why we are paid for, to fly safely the plane but some pleople (CPT and FO) unable to do it manual. Because it's cloudy or rainy, that's not reason enough not to fly the plane ( weather close to minimums could be).
When hand fly is forbidden in FR, I will be out of here.
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I'm not sure where all this has come from, I've flown out of many bases in RYR and have never had a captain tell me not to hand fly. In my current base, if it's a semi decent day out of a quiet airport we often hand fly the sids on raw data (and no I'm not based in CRL!)
Back on topic, if JD leaves will it be a good thing for all concerned or a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire?
Back on topic, if JD leaves will it be a good thing for all concerned or a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire?
Eagerbeaver perhaps it's you who should wind their neck in. Re reading my post I perhaps didn't make it that clear, but I'm not stupid enough to disconnect everything in IMC and try and show off-you put words into my mouth a bit there. I could do it, but would never put a Capt in that kind of situation where he'd have to take control. I would also never do that if I hadn't briefed it first and got the OK from the boss- whatever you think of me, I'm definitely not that kind of FO.
Unlike you however, I don't want to simply practice my hand skills in a sim every 6 months, and lucky for me 99% of the Capts I work with aren't like you and are more then happy for me to disconnect early. Some even prompt it.
Since flying a lot more manually, I've noticed my scan improve vastly and my ability in the sim has improved too. I find it strange how you would perceive this to be a bad thing. Perhaps you fall into the category I described earlier, not allowing an FO to fly manual, as you know you couldn't do it yourself
If so- then I too am appalled.
Sorry for thread drift- don't know how that happened!
Unlike you however, I don't want to simply practice my hand skills in a sim every 6 months, and lucky for me 99% of the Capts I work with aren't like you and are more then happy for me to disconnect early. Some even prompt it.
Since flying a lot more manually, I've noticed my scan improve vastly and my ability in the sim has improved too. I find it strange how you would perceive this to be a bad thing. Perhaps you fall into the category I described earlier, not allowing an FO to fly manual, as you know you couldn't do it yourself
If so- then I too am appalled.Sorry for thread drift- don't know how that happened!
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If you want to hand fly the jet include it in your take off brief. "Autopilot engagement altitude after 10 checks" or " FL X", as per SOP 
It's what I do and I've never had a commander disagree.
It's what I do and I've never had a commander disagree.
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To come back to the thread, i have now 2000h on type so i could apply and go to the Ek interview, but i'll wait after the summer and with some more hours go to the interview. If i pass i made my decision a couple months ago, so here there is one more who would leave Fr for Ek asap, but i will hqve to wait at least until 2500h Plus the notice Period.
In my current base, fr is cheating so much on the block time, that everyday i go to work, pisses me off thinking how difficult we will have it to arrive just on time.
In my current base, fr is cheating so much on the block time, that everyday i go to work, pisses me off thinking how difficult we will have it to arrive just on time.
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From www.flightdeckrecruitment.com:
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We have recently received a new job vacancy posting on FlightdeckRecruitment.com which may be of interest to you.
B737 Captains and First Officers - United Kingdom
FDR Job ID: 6379
Posted: June 17th 2011
Type-rated pilots only may apply.
Minimum hours (on type): 300
Minimum hours (total): 1000
Established UK Airline requires B737 Captains and First Officers for potential contracts.
The company is an industry leading Low Cost Carrier.
The salary for this contract is competitive within current market rates. Pilots are required to have JAA/EASA ATPL with the B737 type rating and hold a valid Class 1 Medical.
All applications are dealt with in the strictest of confidences.
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Ryanair on another fishing expedition??
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We have recently received a new job vacancy posting on FlightdeckRecruitment.com which may be of interest to you.
B737 Captains and First Officers - United Kingdom
FDR Job ID: 6379
Posted: June 17th 2011
Type-rated pilots only may apply.
Minimum hours (on type): 300
Minimum hours (total): 1000
Established UK Airline requires B737 Captains and First Officers for potential contracts.
The company is an industry leading Low Cost Carrier.
The salary for this contract is competitive within current market rates. Pilots are required to have JAA/EASA ATPL with the B737 type rating and hold a valid Class 1 Medical.
All applications are dealt with in the strictest of confidences.
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Ryanair on another fishing expedition??
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Two of the Five FO's I flew with last week are on their way to EK, just waiting on references. The other Three would be interested if they had the hours and they had friends on their way there, so as long as their mates report back with good tales from their paradise the "domino effect" may happen.
For the tread drifters - we at FR brief what we are going to do. It has kept us safe for our 1000 plus flights a day.
Taking a visual approach to the opposite runway un-briefed to save a couple of minutes is plain stupid as has been proven over the years. So what, you land a few minutes early and then sit waiting for your stand to clear. Have seen plenty of them while taxiing to the hold over the years into places with perfect weather - only to watch them perform a go around - panic in their voices - very professional.
You have to use common sense in your approach to maintaining your flying skills. Practice on good days, when the safety of your passengers are not at stake. This is what airmanship is all about.
There's at lot more information about the exact numbers leaving on
REPAWEB
It's a lot safer to be on REPAWEB than a Macho pilot making a visual approach. Ryanair profits were dented by over a cooool mill trying to close the site down and lost - of course.
For the tread drifters - we at FR brief what we are going to do. It has kept us safe for our 1000 plus flights a day.
Taking a visual approach to the opposite runway un-briefed to save a couple of minutes is plain stupid as has been proven over the years. So what, you land a few minutes early and then sit waiting for your stand to clear. Have seen plenty of them while taxiing to the hold over the years into places with perfect weather - only to watch them perform a go around - panic in their voices - very professional.
You have to use common sense in your approach to maintaining your flying skills. Practice on good days, when the safety of your passengers are not at stake. This is what airmanship is all about.
There's at lot more information about the exact numbers leaving on
REPAWEB
It's a lot safer to be on REPAWEB than a Macho pilot making a visual approach. Ryanair profits were dented by over a cooool mill trying to close the site down and lost - of course.
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Is anybody aware of any direct entry Fo not rated? And already rated? Is there any example confirmed in Ryr since recent past?
To keep going the interesting out of topic
Is not about being Macho, but, guess what, ... , just a pilot
To keep going the interesting out of topic
than a Macho pilot making a visual approach
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From then onward all I heard was that Ryanair wants to be self-reliant in recruitment. Meaning only contract new cadets, then upgrade said cadets to captains.
Eventually we'll just be a cadet airline.
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Eagerbeaver: Having known you for 11 years, I'm with you on this one. I can't believe some of the people you've got in Ryanair.
VJW: Having read enough of your gut turning "know it all, I'm just waiting for my unfrozen ATPL any day now, cocky as heck attitude" - my idea of you, not yours of course, I think you're entirely incorrect.
I don't, of course, expect you to agree with me.
I suggest, VJW, that you practice your interview preparation. You have clearly outgrown Ryanair.
VJW: Having read enough of your gut turning "know it all, I'm just waiting for my unfrozen ATPL any day now, cocky as heck attitude" - my idea of you, not yours of course, I think you're entirely incorrect.
I don't, of course, expect you to agree with me.
I suggest, VJW, that you practice your interview preparation. You have clearly outgrown Ryanair.
Narrow runway; outgrown RYR cause I like to fly manually - that's a good one! That's actually one of the things I like about RYR. I never said I do anything during an approach without briefing it before hand. I simply said whenever possible, I try to fly manually, find me a TRE/LTC etc that thinks that's a bad idea. As you well know, we've disagreed on a number of occasions and this time is no different. There's a difference between someone cocky who cannot back up their statements, and one like me who is confident in their ability, having made and will continue to make mistakes, but who is also able to recognise their mistakes and someone who is keen to learn.
I'm just glad as an FO in an airline where you can upgrade within around 4 years, I don't spend my entire time flying with Captains who's a$$ is so tight they're too scared to let the FO do anything. I know for sure I wouldn't learn anything!
I spent all day recently as a safety pilot for a lad 2 days into their line training. Halfway round a DME arc to final the LTC asked the cadet to disconnect everything including flight directors and continue the approach (most likely his 4th ever approach as PF on the line). The cadet flew it pretty well all things considered. Not only can I not imagine you ever suggesting that to an FO, but I'd love to watch your face is a LTC did that to you. Is flying manually really that difficult? Perhaps if you never do it!
Re lospilotos post, is there any chance it's EJ? Don't they have a view 700's kicking around? Can't be RYR what with it stating its a UK airline, and if it's not Jet2, then who else falls under the tag 'UK leading loco?'
I'm just glad as an FO in an airline where you can upgrade within around 4 years, I don't spend my entire time flying with Captains who's a$$ is so tight they're too scared to let the FO do anything. I know for sure I wouldn't learn anything!
I spent all day recently as a safety pilot for a lad 2 days into their line training. Halfway round a DME arc to final the LTC asked the cadet to disconnect everything including flight directors and continue the approach (most likely his 4th ever approach as PF on the line). The cadet flew it pretty well all things considered. Not only can I not imagine you ever suggesting that to an FO, but I'd love to watch your face is a LTC did that to you. Is flying manually really that difficult? Perhaps if you never do it!
Re lospilotos post, is there any chance it's EJ? Don't they have a view 700's kicking around? Can't be RYR what with it stating its a UK airline, and if it's not Jet2, then who else falls under the tag 'UK leading loco?'
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TheWrightBrothers&Son,
At the moment we are sticking with the Cadet System - seems to be working as we don't have to iron out bad habits picked up in other airlines. This may change in the future depending on how things develop with the current mass migration to apparent greener pastures.
You could always go into journalism (the rag kind) as you've mis quoted me.
Making visual approaches are fine as long as they are briefed this is what Pilots should be able to do. But a rushed un-briefed visual to save a few minutes and to boost your ego, is clearly what we at Ryanair don't want to see.
In the last paragraph of my post I made a comparison between REPAWEB (as you may not be familiar - this is a website where Ryanair Pilots can discuss issues in private) and a Macho Pilot. Basically I was trying to say that REPAWEB is safer as some of our pilots either don't know about this free resource or are scared to log on.
English is not my first language so I am sorry if I didn't make myself clear in the first post.
At the moment we are sticking with the Cadet System - seems to be working as we don't have to iron out bad habits picked up in other airlines. This may change in the future depending on how things develop with the current mass migration to apparent greener pastures.
You could always go into journalism (the rag kind) as you've mis quoted me.
Making visual approaches are fine as long as they are briefed this is what Pilots should be able to do. But a rushed un-briefed visual to save a few minutes and to boost your ego, is clearly what we at Ryanair don't want to see.
In the last paragraph of my post I made a comparison between REPAWEB (as you may not be familiar - this is a website where Ryanair Pilots can discuss issues in private) and a Macho Pilot. Basically I was trying to say that REPAWEB is safer as some of our pilots either don't know about this free resource or are scared to log on.
English is not my first language so I am sorry if I didn't make myself clear in the first post.
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Yeah I know that RYR is an Irish airline and not a UK one, but thinking as the ad was anonymous it could be RYR just trying to find out which of us are looking for new jobs. Well, I can tell them anyway: Everyone is looking for a new job....