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Flybe Recruiting and Ts & Cs

Old 21st May 2006, 18:48
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Flybe Recruiting and Ts & Cs

Hi All,

maybe i will get a jot with them...any news of rostering lifestyle management standards and so on?

thanks for info
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Old 22nd May 2006, 17:30
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Liftman,

What position are you trying for?, then I can give you the most relevant information you are after.
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Old 22nd May 2006, 19:46
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first officer position on bae146 fleet, based in belfast
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Old 23rd May 2006, 16:54
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Our survery says .... ne-nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Flybe don't recruit jet f/o's. Its been done a few times before, when they are desperate but it causes a lot of problems internally. All I can say is they better not be doing it again or
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Old 24th May 2006, 14:53
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Liftman,

I assume this is for a two year contract post, you'll get turboprop money and no other benefits, pension etc. I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you ask about the management but they are probably no better or worse than any other. The job itself will basically be 4 sector earlies or lates, typically 5 on, 2 off but not necessaily sticking to this pattern. The post from alpha charlie is actually what you will get used to were you to join, basically, turboprop f/o's who've been in the company 5 mins think they should make all the decisions on who should and shouldn't be employed.
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Old 24th May 2006, 21:32
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Liftman,
Sounds like that you are possibly 146 rated already?
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Old 24th May 2006, 21:50
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They have recently recruited directly on to the 146...although it will cost you 5 grand for the privilege if you're not typed. You do however go straight in on jet money so not a really bad deal, especially if it's your first job. And they are currently recruiting DE captains on the Q400.

eggtimer is pretty accurate with the rostering stuff, and they are tending to stick to the 5 on 2 off pattern. 104 days off per year not including leave and a pretty decent pension to boot.
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Old 25th May 2006, 07:56
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Alpha Charlie,

The bad news is that if you look at the bid list there only seems to be one person in the company who has bid for 146 F/O at BHD and who has completed the two years which F/Os can "expect to serve on the turboprop fleet".

Assuming a need for more than one F/O at BHD there is no problem therefore with Liftman being recruited, especially if he is already type rated - thus saving the company money rather than them have the expense of training someone to fly an aircraft which will be phased out before the bond finished.

Doesn't mean I support it happening but hopefully if he/she does join there won't be to much antagonism in the crew room - Flybe internal politics isn't Liftmans fault.
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Old 25th May 2006, 09:08
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Correction to Chesty's post: The 5 guys recruited directly onto the 146 are on tprop money. They did cough up 5 grand upfront, but this is to be repaid to them if they sign up for a non-reducing 3 year bond on the Dash. Don't know if any have taken the option.
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Old 25th May 2006, 18:06
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thank you all...

I am 146 type rated, 1500hrs on it.

Contract with flybe is 4 month trought an agency
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Old 28th May 2006, 11:08
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If its a contract through an agency thats fine, Liftman will not join the seniority list. But its crazy to look down the current seniority list and see 16 guys on jet way ahead of their seniority (and no I am not criticising them, you would be crazy not to take flybe up on the offer if they offered it to you to go straight in on jet), it just makes a mockery of the list with guys now being paid pass-over pay for having their career progression held up because the company saw fit not to invest in their future - lack of available t/p sim slots or not! As for only 1 guy internally bidding for the 146, well the company could always train up some of those who have bid for EXT/SOU/BHX etc and offer them a remote roster for 6 months to plug the gap, but I guess that means spending cash on hotac etc. And if it is only for 4 months, it would be pointless taking a guy off t/p to train on 146 only to then have to re-train again at the end!

Eggtimer ... I don't think its unreasonable being a bit pee-ed off with the state of the seniority list, I hardly think f/o's reactions are ott, how would people at BA or VS react if they started recruiting direct-entry captains tomorrow? Slightly pee-ed off too!
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[QUOTEI don't think its unreasonable being a bit pee-ed off with the state of the seniority list, I hardly think f/o's reactions are ott, how would people at BA or VS react if they started recruiting direct-entry captains tomorrow? Slightly pee-ed off too!][/QUOTE]

At the end of the day any in any company the needs of the business comes first.
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Alphacharlie,

I know it is frustrating for chaps like you, but the company don't care about annoying you if they can get away with it. Some far more senior people have been left just as frustrated with other decisions.Also, I can't see how liftman joining the seniority list or not would affect you. As Smith says, the truth is that we all want to be fairly treated (and so we should be) but the company is not in business to just keep its employees happy.
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Why not? A company's greatest asset is its employees, look after your employees and they look after you.
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Can anyone tell me what a direct entry Dash 8 captain could expect to take home? Especially keen to hear from any BHD captains about lifestyle, roster pattern, nightstops, etc.

I am currently a 146 captain, but I know that is a dead man's shoes fleet, so the Dash would be the only opportunity!

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FlyBe Embraer 195 Questions

I understand that there is the potential for industrial action at FlyBe at the moment, but I have a couple of questions related to the introduction of the E-195 into the fleet:

1. When is the first E195 expected on the line and how many have been ordered/optioned total?

2. How many E195s are expected on the line before the end of 2006?

3. Will the E195s primarily replace the Astraeus 733s or focus more on replacing aircraft on current 146 routes?

4. Although contract discussions are ongoing, will pay on the E195 basically be 146 pay for both Capt and FO? Has a new wage level been negotiated for the E195 yet (probably a big point of contention)?

I saw a picture of the first Flybe 195 and it is indeed for attractive looking and I am sure it will be popular with crews. Looking forward to seeing it on the line.

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1 First one is supposed to be due Late Summer (September?) with another 3 following at a rate of 1 each month after that, I think about 14 in total, but don't know about the timescale overall... remains to be seen if options will be taken later on, but judging by track record if they are unreliable and go tech at the slightest sniff of damp weather the company will end up with 40 of them.

2 forecast is 3 ish

3 replacing Astraeus 73s initially, but rumour control says that the Astraeus contract has been extended, so who knows?

4 Straight swap, no more money, but a nice shiny new type that no-one else anywhere in the world is special enough to be allowed to fly

5 You think it will be in Flybe colours? linkage
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 00:05
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Smile FLYBE DH4s and E195 pilots

Is FLYBE hiring? Which aircraft do they hire into? Which pilots are going to the E195, the Bae146 pilots mainly? For those that fly the DH4, do you enjoy it? What is a typical roster or trip for a DH4 pilot?

Cheers mates!
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 12:09
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They are hiring, many looking to leave (many will leave this summer), E195 will be 146 pilots and dead mans shoes! Q400 is good aircraft to cut your teeth on, ie full EFIS heavy turbo prop and a wee bit challenging to land.....well smoothly anyway!

If you join the company it will be on the Q400 unless you have a 146 or E195 rating......Command in 2~3 yrs, command on Q400 for several yrs, and then if you are still there and lucky enough (they are short of Q400 capts and reluctant to let them move of type) E195.....don't hold your breath though!

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Old 10th Jul 2006, 13:56
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Exclamation DH4

The DH4 was a very sucessful day bomber introduced to the RFC in late 1916/early 1917. My grandfather was on the first Squadron to form. If Flybe have them, count me in, I have 200 tailwheel hours!!
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