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Old 21st May 2007, 05:02
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Exo, may i know when was your medical ? I went for mine in April, no word since then.
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Old 21st May 2007, 07:09
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my medical was held on 11th May. when was yours?
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Old 21st May 2007, 15:29
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When will we know the fleet we're getting?


in 2 years time mate you are getting just a bit ahead of yourself.
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Old 21st May 2007, 18:08
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They will give you the BWB X-48

When will we know which fleet we re flying ?

Well SIA is always first to fly new things so you will probably get the blended wing body X-48 (google it ) from boeing to fly when it arrives in SIA s fleet ha ha.
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Old 30th May 2007, 10:47
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I got rejected because my pre-LASIK astig was above 200 degs. Apparently, they still look at pre-op eye condition.
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Old 2nd Jun 2007, 18:48
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Help~~!! My application is rejected?!

dear folks,
I've just logged on SIA website and checked the status of my application of cadet pilot.
It's REJECTED!
I don't understand why I'm rejected.
I've fulfilled all the requirements..
Anyone knows what number i can call for the appeal?
I need to know the reason... help...

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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 05:13
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I don't understand why I'm rejected.
I've fulfilled all the requirements..
You equate fulfilling requirements with being selected. That is the problem.

If you have been around a little longer you will know that eligibility DOES NOT equal selection, whether it be for this job or any other job. If you fulfill the requirements for taking part in a lottery (yes there are requirements), does it mean that you will surely win?

Anyone knows what number i can call for the appeal?
The reason for the computerised application process is so that they can weed out undesirable applications not worth further consideration. They get hundreds of such applications a month which are doomed to fail from the start. If they don't have the time or motivation to process your application further, do you think they have time to entertain your queries? They are not career counsellors.

It's just one of the many harsh facts of life. Move on.

Or if you can be bothered, read this thread AND other related threads to have more insight on the selection process and how to succeed the second time around. It can and DOES happen if you can be bothered to help yourself instead of just asking, "Why ah? Why ah? Why I rejected ah?".
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 06:04
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Hi TI,

I fully understand the need to filter out undesirable applicants from the start.

But if my vision now is so much better than someone who is wearing specs with worse astig n myopia than me (but manage to get an interview), i feel that it isn't a fair process.

Why do SIA look at pre-LASIK conditions? It has no bearings on post-LASIK conditions. Once the eyes have stabilised (before LASIK and around 21 of age), chances are remote that it will revert to pre-LASIK conditions.

But then, oh well, move on like what you said.
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 06:29
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The short answer is: supply and demand.

SIA is not exactly a ground breaker in cadet recruitment. Why still no female cadets for SIA (Silkair yes)? So why should these people in charge stick their necks out just because of what you (a mere cadet candidate and not some world renowned industry expert on LASIK) say?

Until such time that they become so short of applicants (and then start relooking at applicants that were OK except for the eyesight component), they will just take the easy path and select the most qualified.

The long answer is: attitudes.

Until today the requirements / preference is that pilots wear spectacles as opposed to contact lenses. How long have contact lenses been around? Compare that with LASIK - it is still an evolving technology and not even half as old as contact lens technology.

If the authorities are STILL reluctant to embrace contact lens technology, do you think they will just give a blanket approval to LASIK? Contrast that with glasses - wear glasses? No problem lah, just wear them when you work and have a spare pair handy. Can you see the difference in attitudes?

And of course, CAAS bureaucrats being what they are, will not risk standing up and proclaiming: Hear Ye! Hear Ye! LASIK is now 100% approved, same legal standing as glasses.

So, you want to take up this crusade, or just move on?
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 07:25
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Hi Thermal Image,

I was one of those rejected by SIA for the cadet pilot interview..attended all the way till tea party but no medical.

I had informed them of my high myopia (but now corrected to 6/6 with a pair of intra-ocular lens) and then the final interview ended rather abruptly.

I'm now doing my CPL/ATPL in Kelantan (a DCA recognised school), do you think I still stand a chance of being a cadet with SIA after graduation?
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 11:53
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Hi TI,

I don't mind being in Silkair either.

Your points are duly noted, and of course, i fully understand that you don't speak for SIA as a whole. So i won't believe wholeheartedly. Unless you are Foreshaw. But its rather annoying to have friends who apply for fun and was granted an interview and get rejected. They jolly well know they didn't prepare anything.

I'll see how i'll proceed from here. Crusade? Nah. Possible, but no worries, no crusade against you.

Thanks.
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 13:09
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What are the qualities the selection panel are looking out for in selecting the cadets? I'm not trying to create personalities or get people to act like 'the preferred' but I'm just wondering as sometimes it's quite disheartening to see them rejecting eligible people who are genuinely interested in flying and not the money or status.

At the end of the day it's up to them but out of curiosity I'm wondering what are they really looking out for.
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 14:22
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I had informed them of my high myopia (but now corrected to 6/6 with a pair of intra-ocular lens) and then the final interview ended rather abruptly.
Looks like the high myopia and end of interview have something to do with each other.

I'm now doing my CPL/ATPL in Kelantan (a DCA recognised school), do you think I still stand a chance of being a cadet with SIA after graduation?
Whatever the chances are, what does it cost you to apply again? Just some time and incidental expenses, correct? The worst they can say is no. Suppose they say yes, then you have to be prepared to commit another 2 years or so doing the whole course all over again at Seletar or wherever it may be. So, one step at a time. Finish your course, and finish well.
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 14:29
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What are the qualities the selection panel are looking out for in selecting the cadets?
Well, let's start with curiosity - *ticks box.*

OK, next item: Initiative - hmm - no evidence of initiative.

Try searching this corner of PPRuNe for Knightwhosays_NI. Start from there.
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 01:12
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Hi TI, appreciate the reply.

Actually I was wondering if SIA would consider me in the advanced phase (Learjet) once I attain my ATPL, taking into account my high myopia history, that is.

I think it's slim, based on you 'supply and demand' analogy.

Well, no harm for me enquiring once I'm near graduation.

Would you happen to know anything about SFC.....if they offer any instructor bond training for private ATPL grads?
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 15:10
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Hi,

Anyone knows of any recent cadet intake in SIA for malaysian citizen...I'm having the indication that they are not taking anyone now...any insights...thanks....
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Old 5th Jun 2007, 03:43
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HenC

Would you happen to know anything about SFC.....if they offer any instructor bond training for private ATPL grads?
Yes they have trained private ATPL holders to be their instructors. There is a bond.
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Old 7th Jun 2007, 14:36
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Rejected on SIA wesbsite

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Help~~!! My application is rejected?!
dear folks,
I've just logged on SIA website and checked the status of my application of cadet pilot.
It's REJECTED!
I don't understand why I'm rejected.
I've fulfilled all the requirements..
Anyone knows what number i can call for the appeal?
I need to know the reason... help...


Dear saxmachine05,

Don't fret, there might be a glimmer of hope.

The same thing happened to me. I was shocked when I filled in all the fields and answered the questions and when I clicked Submit, the status reflected was "Rejected". I was flabbergasted and then I called the SIA HR department to ask why.

Luckily I called. It turned out that two out of the list of 15 questions I answered were incoherent and contradicted one another. That was why the system could not understand the response and auto reject.

The lady who answered my call was kind and helped me correct that technical glitch. And the status of application changed from "Rejected" to "Job Application"

A week later, I was shortlisted for interview.

Don't just give up hope. Fight for it!
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 08:02
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Thanks a lot! pilotdreamer!
I've actually re-submitted the application on 04-june-07.
Till now.. it's "Job Application".
How long the SQ call you for interview since you rectified your application with help of the SQ HR department ppl?

When's your 1st interview?
Can I know the contact number of SQ HR department?
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 09:59
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SIA Application

Hi Saxmachine05,

Mine was a week after they rectified my application status.

As for my first interview, I prefer not to share it here if you can respect that.

Have sent you a PM.

Good luck to you
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