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Forum: Fragrant Harbour
23rd Jan 2017, 04:30
Replies: 87
Views: 59,847
Posted By Pain

We agreed to a COS containing a negotiated...

We agreed to a COS containing a negotiated Rostering Practice with a 90-day out clause either side could exercise and with no stipulation of what might occur if one side opted out.

He smart are...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Dec 2016, 00:10
Replies: 19
Views: 8,376
Posted By Pain

LH is on strike (almost) once a month. That says...

LH is on strike (almost) once a month. That says something. If you were a passenger would you buy tickets for your family vacation on LH. Not likely.

These strikes must have an impact on LH's...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
4th Dec 2016, 23:54
Replies: 30
Views: 15,741
Posted By Pain

The NZ court recognized the two pilots had a...

The NZ court recognized the two pilots had a personal choice to retire at age 55 or 65. They made a personal decision, for whatever personal reasons.

The company won big. Awarded the win and sent...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
1st Sep 2016, 02:31
Replies: 36
Views: 19,750
Posted By Pain

I believe Paul resigned after realizing he did...

I believe Paul resigned after realizing he did not have the time to dedicate to both. If DS can manage both good for him.

It is not reasonable to expect anyone to volunteer for a pay cut in order...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
31st Aug 2016, 14:59
Replies: 69
Views: 27,682
Posted By Pain

We can all have bad days and make bad decisions....

We can all have bad days and make bad decisions. But if he chose to avoid a major on-line international airport (and the weather was good) because "I am not familiar" then he would not appear to be...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
31st Aug 2016, 14:52
Replies: 36
Views: 19,750
Posted By Pain

Yes. Being a training captain does move DS closer...

Yes. Being a training captain does move DS closer to management. But the same is true for being a line captain. The captain is the company's face. Welcome to the real world. True hard then none of us...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
30th Aug 2016, 14:49
Replies: 69
Views: 27,682
Posted By Pain

Yonosoy. Yes, he is one of us. Yes, he has our...

Yonosoy. Yes, he is one of us. Yes, he has our support. However, flying the extra distance/time with a major malfunction is a BAD decision.

What is there to discuss? Really?

The captain made...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
10th Jul 2016, 22:00
Replies: 27
Views: 11,706
Posted By Pain

While CC is marginally effective and TB is where...

While CC is marginally effective and TB is where we get our negotiating power. It should come as no surprise the company wants to reduce the threat. The NC made clear the company's requirement was...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
7th Jul 2016, 13:27
Replies: 13
Views: 2,831
Posted By Pain

It has nothing to do with the quality of the...

It has nothing to do with the quality of the offer. The NC has finished their task.

The NC put in their time and effort and achieved the agreement we have in front of us. They presented this TA...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
7th Jul 2016, 06:06
Replies: 13
Views: 2,831
Posted By Pain

Maybe 63% saw this vote as an attempt to kill the...

Maybe 63% saw this vote as an attempt to kill the TA before it could be voted on.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 13:27
Replies: 27
Views: 11,706
Posted By Pain

Self Centered

Asianeagle. You are right. My perspective is self centered. Just like yours is centered about you.

The 777 roster was crap and now it is good. Things change. I have no desire to fly a Airbus or...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 13:05
Replies: 24
Views: 7,595
Posted By Pain

Rod. Are you suggesting, in all the time the NC...

Rod. Are you suggesting, in all the time the NC was involved with the company, the NC knew nothing substantial about what was being discussed? Or that everything was suggested by the company and the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 11:49
Replies: 24
Views: 7,595
Posted By Pain

No, we were not. Our goal was RP back into our...

No, we were not. Our goal was RP back into our COS. Period.

There was no mandate to require changes to O-days or 30-days of reserve or 5-4-3 or any of the other things we have lost over the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 11:06
Replies: 11
Views: 5,415
Posted By Pain

Who cares

Great rumor. Nothing more. Great.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 05:12
Replies: 27
Views: 11,706
Posted By Pain

CR. You are correct. However it is unreasonable...

CR. You are correct. However it is unreasonable to expect the company to make significant concessions if the NO vote is tight. Do not promise what the Union can not deliver.

W patterns may go...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 03:54
Replies: 27
Views: 11,706
Posted By Pain

Trafalgar. I can assume you are over 55 and...

Trafalgar. I can assume you are over 55 and having difficulty pulling your weight? Based on your aviation experience you are entitled to the top pay scale and easiest, minimal roster? Get real. Maybe...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jul 2016, 01:44
Replies: 27
Views: 11,706
Posted By Pain

Where are we going?

If the TA is rejected by anything less than a resounding NO there will be insufficient mandate for major RP revision. If the vote is only 50-1, what minor concessions will the company agree to in...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
31st May 2016, 23:13
Replies: 164
Views: 168,434
Posted By Pain

Because we like to hear ourselves talk...

Because we like to hear ourselves talk...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
31st May 2016, 09:50
Replies: 43
Views: 22,838
Posted By Pain

BtK You are an oxymoron. Too smart by half. ...

BtK
You are an oxymoron. Too smart by half.

At least you do conclude choosing not to use CD is unprofessional. But "that" is part of our profession?

At what level are you willing to stoop?
...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
31st May 2016, 09:37
Replies: 164
Views: 168,434
Posted By Pain

Under the bus

The company needs a deal. They can say it is appropriate to "consolidate" but that is due to lack of crew not economics. They must reach a negotiated settlement and get contract compliance and the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th May 2016, 02:23
Replies: 43
Views: 22,838
Posted By Pain

Absolutely right. Reality is never that simple....

Absolutely right. Reality is never that simple. There are always choices to be made. Some easy, some not.

The company has proceeded down a road which we see as detrimental, unprofessional. They...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
28th May 2016, 20:57
Replies: 43
Views: 22,838
Posted By Pain

The ever present problem is separation of...

The ever present problem is separation of industrial action from professional action. Some of us believe the two are separate.

We comply with the letter and intent of contract compliance:...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
3rd May 2016, 00:33
Replies: 164
Views: 168,434
Posted By Pain

HKPA

Which members will vote on the HKPA? Presumably an agreement on the HKPA will be in play soon, before RP are negotiated. With the vote to accept, or not, include all members of the AOA or restricted...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
1st May 2016, 04:33
Replies: 69
Views: 31,727
Posted By Pain

Curtain. You are absolutely right! We are only...

Curtain. You are absolutely right! We are only following what is in our contract. But do not confuse words with reality. We are pushing. That is exactly why we are doing it. Yes we are just complying...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
30th Apr 2016, 07:21
Replies: 69
Views: 31,727
Posted By Pain

[QUOTE=HFP;9359019] I believe in CC not only...

[QUOTE=HFP;9359019]

I believe in CC not only because it is the right thing, but because it's the only way we will preserve our CoS and our dignity. In the western world deals and negotiations are...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
28th Apr 2016, 02:59
Replies: 69
Views: 31,727
Posted By Pain

JMock, you come across as a racist fool. This...

JMock, you come across as a racist fool. This detracts from the conversation. Why cheapen and divide the pilot group?
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
25th Apr 2016, 05:03
Replies: 198
Views: 133,516
Posted By Pain

The A350s will not be deferred. It will be less...

The A350s will not be deferred. It will be less expensive to accept the A350s on schedule, transfer as many A330s to KA as they can accommodate and park the excess A330s we do not have the crew to...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
24th Apr 2016, 05:44
Replies: 198
Views: 133,516
Posted By Pain

Where from here?

The company mismanaged this situation. They should have made constructive proposals long ago.

There are several paths converging forcing the company to act. Cathay will suffer future pilot...
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