Education: What A Levels and Degree (if any)?!(Apr '09)
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I wouldnt bother with a degree! You dont need a degree to be a pilot, only a serious amount of money. With a degree you arent (by a longshot) guaranteed any training whatsoever to be a pilot! unlike a Solicitor/Accountant etc etc.It was already bad enough trying to get sponsored, but because of the recession in the pilot industry recently, Ie, british airways cancelling their sponsorship after 9/11 ,(not sure whether they have resumed), but they only took on 150 out of 5000+ candidates thats a whopping 3%!!!! 4850 get rejected! All with 2 'A Levels' or a degree. Believe me you have to 'Know your Stuff' ! . I met someone who got sponsored and he certainly did.
If i was you......i'd become a chiropodist. Dont hassel yourself with the hassle of pilot training. Getting yourself into debt for a degree, and the further with loans loans loans, is an error of judgement. My point is, if you study for a degree for 3/4 years your gonna be well peeved if you cant get sponsored.
If i was you......i'd become a chiropodist. Dont hassel yourself with the hassle of pilot training. Getting yourself into debt for a degree, and the further with loans loans loans, is an error of judgement. My point is, if you study for a degree for 3/4 years your gonna be well peeved if you cant get sponsored.
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Wow! Lots of different opinions and advice! As one who left a degree course in the second year to join the BA sponsored pilot scheme, all I can say is it has worked for me. One of the guys I knew who stayed and finished his degree also got sponsored later but is two years behind in seniority. However, if we both lose our jobs in the future, he certainly will have a better chance of finding a job. However, that has to be weighed up with the fact that in an airline , seniority is EVERYTHING. If we were to downsize dramatically, the axe swings from the bottom. A bird in the hand .....As some of the previous writers have mentioned, there is nothing stopping you studying part time later, once you´ve moved into the right hand seat of your new job. Hope this helps...
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but what if you get yourself a BS in aeronautical sciences at eg. Embry Riddle University, I took a good look at this programme and I don't know what else you can do with this degree besides flying really.... I don't think it's ok to just pick a programme that you like, you have to be sure you can fall back on it
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Well, it's been time for me to choose 
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I shall... go to uni !
What's decisive is the fact that you keep your degree whatever the economical situation. The world's going faster everyday, and such a guarantee will be helpful in the future. It surely will.
Seniority... Yes, that's an important point but I prefer living modestly with a degree than without. I'll be a beginner some day anyway.
And if a airline finds it good for its recruits to possess a diploma, so much the better !
Thanks for your replies !
.I shall... go to uni !
What's decisive is the fact that you keep your degree whatever the economical situation. The world's going faster everyday, and such a guarantee will be helpful in the future. It surely will.
Seniority... Yes, that's an important point but I prefer living modestly with a degree than without. I'll be a beginner some day anyway.
And if a airline finds it good for its recruits to possess a diploma, so much the better !
Thanks for your replies !
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What Degree
Right that's it, i've finally found the guts and the incentive (girlfriend and parents constantly whinging) to go out and get myself a university degree (part time). The question is what degree, (hopefully can do it in the midlands). I want to do something aviation related, or at least something mechanically orientated. Any suggestions from anyone.
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Cranfield has an Executive MSC (Part Time) version of its highly regarded Air Transport MSc Programme.
Details here
http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/prospectus/soe/airtans1.htm
Cheers
Details here
http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/prospectus/soe/airtans1.htm
Cheers
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"Combine a Degree with a Pilots Licence???"
Whats that then? Sounds intriguing!
I avoided Uni for a number of reasons - but now would like to have the benefit and satisfaction of a degree. I keep looking at places like the open university for something that would compliment aviating. Other than engineering (perhaps too specific) there doesn't seem much to go at.
If there is anyone who's been and done one of these Aviation technology (or similar) courses, please let me know. Are they of direct benefit to pilots? And what are the entry requirements/conditions?
Cheers.
I avoided Uni for a number of reasons - but now would like to have the benefit and satisfaction of a degree. I keep looking at places like the open university for something that would compliment aviating. Other than engineering (perhaps too specific) there doesn't seem much to go at.
If there is anyone who's been and done one of these Aviation technology (or similar) courses, please let me know. Are they of direct benefit to pilots? And what are the entry requirements/conditions?
Cheers.
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MSc in Air Transport Management at City University London
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DF1,
I'm currently on the Aviation Technology with pilot training course at University of Leeds. Just finished my first year.
In answer to your questions; The Leeds course is only one year old so nobody has actually graduated yet, so the benefits/costs of the course are still a little bit of an unknown. Entry requirements for the first year were quite low due to the applicant having to drop inot a process called 'clearing' and then re-enter the university application system. This doesn' t matter anymore as for the students starting in September everything is sorted. However, last time i spoke to my tutor at the university he was contimplating raising the entry requirements to ABB/AAB purely due to the number of applications they have recieved for the 2003/2004 course.
IMHO the course is excellant. The flying side is only a very small part of the course, i have a 23 hour flying session coming up in September, others on my course have already started this training. The technology side is very interesting, i get the impression that it is more a course aimed at students wanting to be pilots, as the technology side is very indepth and sometimes difficult.
Overall, i've found it a good course, which i hope will stand me in good sted for the job's market, especially if i ever fail that medical
please post if you have any other question's
GeeZ
I'm currently on the Aviation Technology with pilot training course at University of Leeds. Just finished my first year.
In answer to your questions; The Leeds course is only one year old so nobody has actually graduated yet, so the benefits/costs of the course are still a little bit of an unknown. Entry requirements for the first year were quite low due to the applicant having to drop inot a process called 'clearing' and then re-enter the university application system. This doesn' t matter anymore as for the students starting in September everything is sorted. However, last time i spoke to my tutor at the university he was contimplating raising the entry requirements to ABB/AAB purely due to the number of applications they have recieved for the 2003/2004 course.
IMHO the course is excellant. The flying side is only a very small part of the course, i have a 23 hour flying session coming up in September, others on my course have already started this training. The technology side is very interesting, i get the impression that it is more a course aimed at students wanting to be pilots, as the technology side is very indepth and sometimes difficult.
Overall, i've found it a good course, which i hope will stand me in good sted for the job's market, especially if i ever fail that medical
please post if you have any other question's
GeeZ
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i'm thinking of an undergrad degree first and cranfield only does postgrads. I also spent 14 months in cranfield, and never want to spend another night there.
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You should look on a degree as your parachute, against an unfortunate turn of fate which might stop you from flying in the future. As mentioned above, it is important that you study a field that interests you but it should be a rigorous discipline from a respected university. Employers have long been lukewarm, to say the least, about arcane subjects from former bottom-drawer polytechnics. As a general rule, avoid any course with the word "studies" in the title.
Above all, arrange your life so you can enjoy studying.
Above all, arrange your life so you can enjoy studying.
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What about Lonson Met
London Mteropo;itam University has come up wth a new Degree , Airline Ops and Managemnet , and also a foundation dehgree , IF U have your JAR ATPL theory then you ll have to do only little ,,,
Why not try ,,, anyway they seems like a friendly nice bunch , specially the Two Ladies at the reception , they will help you out ,,,,
JAMUP
Why not try ,,, anyway they seems like a friendly nice bunch , specially the Two Ladies at the reception , they will help you out ,,,,
JAMUP
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I cant find information about the third year program (Honours top-up) for the foundation degree in Aiation Mangement and Operation by London Met 
Going to have to give them a call 
Im strongly considering this option because of the chance of doing the ATPL full time during the second year, complete remaining flight training too (as I would have done much of it by then) otherwise if i do some other degree, ATPL will go along side other studies (distance learning) or AFTER a four years wait from now, holding everything up
Going to have to give them a call Im strongly considering this option because of the chance of doing the ATPL full time during the second year, complete remaining flight training too (as I would have done much of it by then) otherwise if i do some other degree, ATPL will go along side other studies (distance learning) or AFTER a four years wait from now, holding everything up
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Considering how shaky the airline business is, I'd get a degree usefull in another field.
Our #6 wanted to fly, got his private, did well, and kept looking, while earning a BS in Accounting. He just upgraded to a MBA from The Wharton School in PHL, and is pulling down $115,000 plus great fringes.
Steady work, end enjoyable. He's headed for higher places.
Our #6 wanted to fly, got his private, did well, and kept looking, while earning a BS in Accounting. He just upgraded to a MBA from The Wharton School in PHL, and is pulling down $115,000 plus great fringes.
Steady work, end enjoyable. He's headed for higher places.