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Facts
6 LAME's (including the DMM) were ordered to conduct duties that they were not appropriately trained in and duely declined on safety grounds.
They were then informed that they were all to be docked the minimum 4 hours of pay which has been confirmed by HR.
So much for management abiding by their own policies and adhereing to the OH&S act.
They were then informed that they were all to be docked the minimum 4 hours of pay which has been confirmed by HR.
So much for management abiding by their own policies and adhereing to the OH&S act.
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6 LAME's (including the DMM) were ordered to conduct duties that they were not appropriately trained in and duely declined on safety grounds.
They were then informed that they were all to be docked the minimum 4 hours of pay which has been confirmed by HR.
They were then informed that they were all to be docked the minimum 4 hours of pay which has been confirmed by HR.
Pack up your tools and take them home.
"Houston, we have a problem"
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks there is a meeting tomorrow. There may be one the day after, still trying to arrange. If am am sitting across the table from Senior Qantas managers, is there anything you guys want me to say on your behalf?
I may even print the best posting and read it out.
cheers
I may even print the best posting and read it out.
cheers
I want him and his grovalers to make a very LOUD and PUBLIC retraction to his famous comments about management contributions compared to that of unions.
Then I want him to lick the soles of every Lame he had stood down, together with a meaningfull apology to them and thier families.
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Change of Management
Fed Sec - Might it be prudent to ask what accountability Management will be held for this continued destruction of QF Engineering?
Managers
DC
MH
RH
DM
KM
All should be held accountable for all of this as well as the Mc Cormack incident where QF Management and QRSM did nothing to stop it....
Appreciate all the effort and hours you guys are doing at the ALAEA, I am sure it isnt easy having to listen to the continued saga of the price of oil, welcome to the real world!
Managers
DC
MH
RH
DM
KM
All should be held accountable for all of this as well as the Mc Cormack incident where QF Management and QRSM did nothing to stop it....
Appreciate all the effort and hours you guys are doing at the ALAEA, I am sure it isnt easy having to listen to the continued saga of the price of oil, welcome to the real world!
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Kevin Brown,
You released a letter to all staff reiterating that Bulling & Harassment
would not be tolerated from LAMEs and Management alike.
You said that termination of employment would befall anyone who engaged in it.
Well, Kevin Brown, in the last 4 days we have heard of numerous such
events all coming from David Cox, his Managers DMM & Supervisors directed toward LAMEs.
They have stood over LAMEs trying to force them to sign for unserviceable aircraft,
carry out duties they are not trained for and generally put Schedule before Safety.
These are serious breaches of Company Policy and Cardinal Rules & CASA Regs.
LAMEs have been stood down for minor lapses such as placing a witches hat in the wrong spot..
When will we see these managers pay the price of their indiscretions?
Fed Sec
You might ask Dixon why there is one rule for them and another for us.
I would like you to ask for my back pay to be doubled to make up for lost super contributions.
You released a letter to all staff reiterating that Bulling & Harassment
would not be tolerated from LAMEs and Management alike.
You said that termination of employment would befall anyone who engaged in it.
Well, Kevin Brown, in the last 4 days we have heard of numerous such
events all coming from David Cox, his Managers DMM & Supervisors directed toward LAMEs.
They have stood over LAMEs trying to force them to sign for unserviceable aircraft,
carry out duties they are not trained for and generally put Schedule before Safety.
These are serious breaches of Company Policy and Cardinal Rules & CASA Regs.
LAMEs have been stood down for minor lapses such as placing a witches hat in the wrong spot..
When will we see these managers pay the price of their indiscretions?
Fed Sec
You might ask Dixon why there is one rule for them and another for us.
I would like you to ask for my back pay to be doubled to make up for lost super contributions.
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Seems to me that we are all saavy to the idea of the swiss cheese model on how accidents occur............thanks to Qf training.........ah the irony
Bet our glorious management didn't realise it also applies equally to their poor decision making, obese, unweildy and inflexible PPM's etc, etc on how well the company can run.........seems all the swiss cheese holes are lining up nicely for management to have an accident brought on by their ineptitude
BTW, I wonder if they are fighting over the fiddle while Qf burns?
D4
Bet our glorious management didn't realise it also applies equally to their poor decision making, obese, unweildy and inflexible PPM's etc, etc on how well the company can run.........seems all the swiss cheese holes are lining up nicely for management to have an accident brought on by their ineptitude
BTW, I wonder if they are fighting over the fiddle while Qf burns?
D4
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If Dixon says anything about fuel prices just ask Geoff when was the last time he personally filled up his car. Lames are abundantly aware of the cost of things because we use personal credit cards not company ones to pay for things!
If Dixon says anything about fuel prices just ask Geoff when was the last time he personally filled up his car. Lames are abundantly aware of the cost of things because we use personal credit cards not company ones to pay for things!
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Warpspeed.
This is not about leaving Qantas. If we all hated the big Q I could safetly say that we would have left a long time ago (and that's across all professions). We actually enjoy our work, but the management(especially the current bunch of turkeys) leave a bad taste in our mouths.
Now the avarage LAME has endured countless set backs at work and more often than not with stupid decisions made by ignorant managers. Goodwill is what often covered it up. What you are seeing now is no goodwill. It is exactly what this management have given us for 7 years. Now we're returning the favour.
I personally wouldn't leave Qantas unless they paid me out. They can fling all the sh!t they can at me but I won't be walking through the door without a redundancy cheque in my hand. I suggest every LAME who has considered leaving recently stay put and enjoy the ride. Don't give them the satisfaction. We're working with their train set and their rules. I go to work and know that every single delay that I cause is simply because I work to a set of rules and procedures that Qantas has created. Nothing more, nothing less.
As for the delays going through the roof....let them figure it out.
What a bunch of Primadonnas
If its so bad at Qantas leave and see how hard you have to work in other companies.
If its so bad at Qantas leave and see how hard you have to work in other companies.
Now the avarage LAME has endured countless set backs at work and more often than not with stupid decisions made by ignorant managers. Goodwill is what often covered it up. What you are seeing now is no goodwill. It is exactly what this management have given us for 7 years. Now we're returning the favour.
I personally wouldn't leave Qantas unless they paid me out. They can fling all the sh!t they can at me but I won't be walking through the door without a redundancy cheque in my hand. I suggest every LAME who has considered leaving recently stay put and enjoy the ride. Don't give them the satisfaction. We're working with their train set and their rules. I go to work and know that every single delay that I cause is simply because I work to a set of rules and procedures that Qantas has created. Nothing more, nothing less.
As for the delays going through the roof....let them figure it out.
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Fed Sec
How about "leaking" some of the passionate letters from Q LAMEs to the media. Some balance to the reporting is waaay overdue.
Methinks the Q media team are working LOTS of overtime!
Spanner90
Methinks the Q media team are working LOTS of overtime!
Spanner90
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From SMH.com.au
http://www.smh.com.au/news/travel/qa...258833814.html
Starting to have an impact?
Better saying that, than admitting the outsourced maintenance is adding to the 24 hour delays.
Oh well, seems the crack is widening.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/travel/qa...258833814.html
The airline conceded the industrial dispute with its licensed aircraft maintenance engineers was starting to have an impact. Overtime bans were biting despite signs of a potential breakthrough in wage talks.
Better saying that, than admitting the outsourced maintenance is adding to the 24 hour delays.
Oh well, seems the crack is widening.
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Whenever you feel your resolve waning watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G3DXllgy2A
and if it is all getting you down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUXxbI1ZVB4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G3DXllgy2A
and if it is all getting you down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUXxbI1ZVB4&feature=related
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Just briefly all,
Nobody has been stood down. Just threatened with loss of pay.
Good news is that the members did not act illegally by arriving an aircraft without an appropriately licenced aircraft engineer present. Aircraft stood off the bay unchocked until appropriately licenced LAMEs commenced shift at 0400.
Nobody has been stood down. Just threatened with loss of pay.
Good news is that the members did not act illegally by arriving an aircraft without an appropriately licenced aircraft engineer present. Aircraft stood off the bay unchocked until appropriately licenced LAMEs commenced shift at 0400.
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Nobody has been stood down. Just threatened with loss of pay.
If the Cuban Missile Crisis was the most dangerous passage of the Cold War, the most dangerous moment of the Cuban Missile Crisis was the evening of Saturday, 27 October 1962, when the resolution of the crisis—war or peace—appeared to hang in the balance. While Soviet ships had not attempted to break the U.S naval blockade of Cuba, Soviet nuclear missile bases remained on the island and were rapidly becoming operational, and pressure on President Kennedy to order an air strike or invasion was mounting, especially after an American l -2 reconnaissance plane was shot down over Cuba that Saturday afternoon and its pilot killed. Hopes that a satisfactory resolution to the crisis could be reached between Washington and Moscow had dimmed, moreover, when a letter from Soviet leader Nikita S. Khrushchev arrived Saturday morning demanding that the United States agree to remove its Jupiter missiles from Turkey in exchange for a Soviet removal of missiles from Cuba. The letter struck U.S. officials as an ominous hardening of the Soviet position from the previous day's letter from Khrushchev, which had omitted any mention of American missiles in Turkey but had instead implied that Washington's pledge not to invade Cuba would be sufficient to obviate the need for Soviet nuclear protection of Castro's revolution.
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A curious site to watch the joy people have in delaying tens of thousands of people and costing the Australian economy a ton of money. But then again, only people who were delayed and support your union are allowed to comment - right?
This site may help your aliment.
http://www.wikihow.com/Improve-Your-Sense-of-Humor