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That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of.
May those who command people to breach cardinal rules all fall by the sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the issue the Assoc should take all the way to the supreme court if required.
It is a sad reflection on self inflected desperation the sad team who run a professional operation have fallen so they can protect themselves from their bad decisions.
Jump on this issue Steve P
May those who command people to breach cardinal rules all fall by the sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the issue the Assoc should take all the way to the supreme court if required.
It is a sad reflection on self inflected desperation the sad team who run a professional operation have fallen so they can protect themselves from their bad decisions.
Jump on this issue Steve P
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AIRC here we come!
MEL
That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of.
May those who command people to breach cardinal rules all fall by the sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the issue the Assoc should take all the way to the supreme court if required.
It is a sad reflection on self inflected desperation the sad team who run a professional operation have fallen so they can protect themselves from their bad decisions.
Jump on this issue Steve P
That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of.
May those who command people to breach cardinal rules all fall by the sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the issue the Assoc should take all the way to the supreme court if required.
It is a sad reflection on self inflected desperation the sad team who run a professional operation have fallen so they can protect themselves from their bad decisions.
Jump on this issue Steve P
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Fact 1: The only people found guilty of collusion are QF management.
Fact 2: The ALAEA stop work meeting was at the insistence of GD not the union(presumably so he had the opportunity to lock them out if he wished)
Fact 3: You are a loser!!!
Fact 1: The only people found guilty of collusion are QF management.
Fact 2: The ALAEA stop work meeting was at the insistence of GD not the union(presumably so he had the opportunity to lock them out if he wished)
Fact 3: You are a loser!!!
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Bargaining, to haggle, to negotiate. The opposite to "BEING DICTATED TO"
Can you read ??? Expired - lapsed - ran out - no longer valid.
We have "no longer" agreed to work for the crumbs Dickson offers.
Hence, a NEW eba is currently underway. Gee pal, thought you were at
least up to speed with that one.
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If you dont know the lines of communication by now brother
Hint
Its not true till its on an ALAEA notice
all info there is verified before issue
If you are a member they are emailed to you
If you are not you find out in the fullness of time
Hint
Its not true till its on an ALAEA notice
all info there is verified before issue
If you are a member they are emailed to you
If you are not you find out in the fullness of time
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Fire and brimstone is on the way Qantas managers, and consultants, be aware, very aware, oh, and stay up. THE TRUTH IS OUT and its gathering speed. 
And just for PAF.
Fire and brimstone is a term used, sometimes pejoratively, to describe a motif in Christian preaching which uses vivid descriptions of judgment, and the damnation to Hell of sinners forever to encourage repentance out of fear of divine wrath and punishment.
And just for PAF.
Fire and brimstone is a term used, sometimes pejoratively, to describe a motif in Christian preaching which uses vivid descriptions of judgment, and the damnation to Hell of sinners forever to encourage repentance out of fear of divine wrath and punishment.
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Australian Financial Review Monday 2nd June 2008 / Letters page 59
I cannot identify a chief executive officer who is focused less on the needs of his customers and staff and more on creating shareholder and executive wealth than Geoff Dixon.
In this he ignores the dictums that, in a service industry, customers need constant attention, and staff need to be treated in the same way as you would want them to treat your customers.
Constant cost cutting and “Chicken Little” speeches, lead to corporate anorexia and disengaged staff, never to sustainable high performance.
In this he ignores the dictums that, in a service industry, customers need constant attention, and staff need to be treated in the same way as you would want them to treat your customers.
Constant cost cutting and “Chicken Little” speeches, lead to corporate anorexia and disengaged staff, never to sustainable high performance.
Well said
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Dear Geoff
Pride comes before a fall they say, although there are those who would rather bring every thing around them down (or "take it to the wire") before admitting they have erred.
What will you do?
Can you not see what a house of cards your management has created ,where a business starts to decend into chaos by the refusal of staff to work on their days off?
If you think this is PIA, you aint seen nothing yet.
This protested industrial action is as much about the respect due to the Lames who achieve against the odds and in spite of, management In QE(who are too scared to be seen on the floor by the way) but willing to take credit for the organisation and accomplishments of those concientious and hardworking crews who get the aircraft out and make them look good.
You may not be in a popularity contest but your attitude toward your staff is contemptable to say the least. There is a groundswell of distaste across QANTAS wide (not just QE)at your surly comments and petulant behaviour, Your actions have cascaded down to other managers who also fail to keep comments above the line.You do not practice what your amazing people preach. Remember blame, justify ,deny. all below the line behaviors
We may respect your business acumin but you have failed to invest in your best assets.Your staff (I'll spell it out for you )
5% is fair and reasonable for all QF staff in these times.
Its not coming out of your pocket.
or is it?
What will you do?
Can you not see what a house of cards your management has created ,where a business starts to decend into chaos by the refusal of staff to work on their days off?
If you think this is PIA, you aint seen nothing yet.
This protested industrial action is as much about the respect due to the Lames who achieve against the odds and in spite of, management In QE(who are too scared to be seen on the floor by the way) but willing to take credit for the organisation and accomplishments of those concientious and hardworking crews who get the aircraft out and make them look good.
You may not be in a popularity contest but your attitude toward your staff is contemptable to say the least. There is a groundswell of distaste across QANTAS wide (not just QE)at your surly comments and petulant behaviour, Your actions have cascaded down to other managers who also fail to keep comments above the line.You do not practice what your amazing people preach. Remember blame, justify ,deny. all below the line behaviors
We may respect your business acumin but you have failed to invest in your best assets.Your staff (I'll spell it out for you )
5% is fair and reasonable for all QF staff in these times.
Its not coming out of your pocket.
or is it?
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SMH June 5th.
Fuel costs weigh heavily but the cloud over Qantas has a silver lining
Elizabeth Knight
June 5, 2008
Geoff Dixon has been in Istanbul this week with other airline executives from around the globe swapping stories on the financial chaos that has engulfed the industry, thanks to the skyrocketing price of fuel.
Back in Australia Qantas passengers have been dealing with a different challenge - getting on flights that have been seriously delayed or simply cancelled.
This week some economy passengers who had been waiting more than 24 hours for their flight to London took matters into their own hands and barged into the business class lounge in protest against being offered tea in foam cups as a refreshment.
Security staff sorted this situation out but these extreme circumstances have to bring into question whether the years of operational cost-cutting may be stretching the airline's resources too thin.
The situation is being exacerbated by the engineers' union, which is seeking a 5 per cent pay rise and is using overtime bans as its negotiating weapon.
What is not clear is whether this industrial action is the largestcause of the airline schedule mayhem or whether there is an underlying problem in the airline.
The consensus appears to be that the overtime bans are not the primary culprit but have pushed the airline over the edge.
It makes for a particularly difficult juggle for Dixon. The cost of fuel has put unprecedented pressure on Qantas to take more costs out of the system but there is a view that the airline is currently so stretched that it can't afford any disruption from any part of the workforce.
The official word from the airline executive last night was that the troubles over the past fewweeks were all about the engineers and its on-time record was normally better than its local competitor's and good by international standards.
Qantas has the option of taking more of its maintenance overseas and will dangle this threat over the engineers.
The warring parties are holding more talks tomorrow.
To the extent that Qantas is otherwise stretched, the fuel price might perversely work in itsfavour.
Last week it said it would cut capacity by dropping some routes and retiring aircraft early because the rising fuel price had made some routes uneconomic.
The falling demand that the industry is experiencing will also allow Qantas and other airlines to further cut capacity and/or try to increase fares.
If investors take the view that the current fuel price is a short-term aberration then this is a buying opportunity.
But if one believes that the longer-term fuel price could be $US150 to $US200 a barrel then airlines are operating with an economic model that is not particularly attractive.
In particular, discount airlines around the world will be under pressure. While no-frills services run on the smell of an oily rag the price of that fuel is the same as it is for a full-service airline.
If fares are increased to compensate for rising fuel costs, the budget airlines, which have expanded the market to customers for whom air travel had been out of reach, will feel demand fall sharply.
The fuel price is not an external shock like SARS or the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It could well result in a permanent shift in the economics of the industry.
The newer, more fuel-efficient planes that have been ordered will help mitigate cost increases but, in the current environment, aircraft will need to be taken out of the system more rapidly than new ones are introduced.
So we can expect Dixon to continue to play hardball with the engineers and we should expect an announcement tomorrow of more cuts to capacity and routes, both domestic and international.
In a couple of months Dixon will need to front investors with a full-year result for the last time. It's already locked in.
It's the 2009 financial year that is causing some concern among investors and there is wild variation among analysts about what may ultimately be delivered.
Elizabeth Knight
June 5, 2008
Geoff Dixon has been in Istanbul this week with other airline executives from around the globe swapping stories on the financial chaos that has engulfed the industry, thanks to the skyrocketing price of fuel.
Back in Australia Qantas passengers have been dealing with a different challenge - getting on flights that have been seriously delayed or simply cancelled.
This week some economy passengers who had been waiting more than 24 hours for their flight to London took matters into their own hands and barged into the business class lounge in protest against being offered tea in foam cups as a refreshment.
Security staff sorted this situation out but these extreme circumstances have to bring into question whether the years of operational cost-cutting may be stretching the airline's resources too thin.
The situation is being exacerbated by the engineers' union, which is seeking a 5 per cent pay rise and is using overtime bans as its negotiating weapon.
What is not clear is whether this industrial action is the largestcause of the airline schedule mayhem or whether there is an underlying problem in the airline.
The consensus appears to be that the overtime bans are not the primary culprit but have pushed the airline over the edge.
It makes for a particularly difficult juggle for Dixon. The cost of fuel has put unprecedented pressure on Qantas to take more costs out of the system but there is a view that the airline is currently so stretched that it can't afford any disruption from any part of the workforce.
The official word from the airline executive last night was that the troubles over the past fewweeks were all about the engineers and its on-time record was normally better than its local competitor's and good by international standards.
Qantas has the option of taking more of its maintenance overseas and will dangle this threat over the engineers.
The warring parties are holding more talks tomorrow.
To the extent that Qantas is otherwise stretched, the fuel price might perversely work in itsfavour.
Last week it said it would cut capacity by dropping some routes and retiring aircraft early because the rising fuel price had made some routes uneconomic.
The falling demand that the industry is experiencing will also allow Qantas and other airlines to further cut capacity and/or try to increase fares.
If investors take the view that the current fuel price is a short-term aberration then this is a buying opportunity.
But if one believes that the longer-term fuel price could be $US150 to $US200 a barrel then airlines are operating with an economic model that is not particularly attractive.
In particular, discount airlines around the world will be under pressure. While no-frills services run on the smell of an oily rag the price of that fuel is the same as it is for a full-service airline.
If fares are increased to compensate for rising fuel costs, the budget airlines, which have expanded the market to customers for whom air travel had been out of reach, will feel demand fall sharply.
The fuel price is not an external shock like SARS or the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It could well result in a permanent shift in the economics of the industry.
The newer, more fuel-efficient planes that have been ordered will help mitigate cost increases but, in the current environment, aircraft will need to be taken out of the system more rapidly than new ones are introduced.
So we can expect Dixon to continue to play hardball with the engineers and we should expect an announcement tomorrow of more cuts to capacity and routes, both domestic and international.
In a couple of months Dixon will need to front investors with a full-year result for the last time. It's already locked in.
It's the 2009 financial year that is causing some concern among investors and there is wild variation among analysts about what may ultimately be delivered.
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OK, this is getting ridiculous.....Has anyone read the latest ACS update from MH?
This is what will get the company on track again.....a few more Managers, (sarcasim..) Nice one.
Maybe thats the big secret plan, 'lets make everyone a manager then we can get them all to resign from the union and then run it like a Dictatorship'.....PLEASE!
Just remember, keep safe, work to the book, and read the QEPM.
This is what will get the company on track again.....a few more Managers, (sarcasim..) Nice one.
Maybe thats the big secret plan, 'lets make everyone a manager then we can get them all to resign from the union and then run it like a Dictatorship'.....PLEASE!
Just remember, keep safe, work to the book, and read the QEPM.
Elizabeth Knight, what a pearl!
Ho ho ho! There is an underlying problem with Qantas called Geoff Dixon, the Board and the "Management Team" (what an oxymoron that is!). It's called Industrial psychopathy, or perhaps Corporate Narcissm. Just remember that the Board and the Management of Qantas do everything and are responsible for everything that is good.
...and that view is called "reality". Unfortunately Dixon has his own reality which is different from "real" reality.....really.
I think the engineers are past caring about this. They already know that the threat is empty because even if they accepted the 3% on offer, Qantas will still outsource overseas if they believe it is in their financial interest.
You are spot on there sister, think of the money Qantas could be making if it was run by a competent management team that engaged with their staff. Best time to buy will be when the network is in chaos, there is a major shareholder revolt and just before Dixon leaves or is removed.
It's not rocket science is it? When air travel gets more expensive, Bogans won't fly. Those that do will expect higher levels of service, comfort and reliability that Qantas now cannot afford to provide, even if it's management wanted to.
They won't mitigate fuel cost increases in the short term at all. That's Board level wishful thinking. Ever heard of a learning curve? Perhaps Six years out the stretched models will provide some tangible savings.
By the way, how do you repair a forklift hole in a composite fuselage?
Dixon will play hardball with you because he likes to. He enjoys it. It gives him the limelight - centre stage. It feeds his ego, your pain and suffering is nectar to him. He is a narcissist.
As for the full year result, I already told you it was locked in.
As for 2009, why would Dixon really care? Once he leaves the joint, you will never hear from him again. He will be off looking for greener pastures.
BTW: Don't blame PAF for his inflexible stupidity, he doesn't know any better. Of the three worst managers I've ever had, two were ex RAAF engineering officers who exhibited similar traits, not saying all RAAF are bad, but there seems to a lot of the rigid Yes/No, Black/White, "respect my authoritaaay" types.
The situation is being exacerbated by the engineers' union, which is seeking a 5 per cent pay rise and is using overtime bans as its negotiating weapon.
What is not clear is whether this industrial action is the largest cause of the airline schedule mayhem or whether there is an underlying problem in the airline.
The consensus appears to be that the overtime bans are not the primary culprit but have pushed the airline over the edge.
What is not clear is whether this industrial action is the largest cause of the airline schedule mayhem or whether there is an underlying problem in the airline.
The consensus appears to be that the overtime bans are not the primary culprit but have pushed the airline over the edge.
It makes for a particularly difficult juggle for Dixon. The cost of fuel has put unprecedented pressure on Qantas to take more costs out of the system but there is a view that the airline is currently so stretched that it can't afford any disruption from any part of the workforce.
Qantas has the option of taking more of its maintenance overseas and will dangle this threat over the engineers.
Last week it said it would cut capacity by dropping some routes and retiring aircraft early because the rising fuel price had made some routes uneconomic.
The falling demand that the industry is experiencing will also allow Qantas and other airlines to further cut capacity and/or try to increase fares.
If investors take the view that the current fuel price is a short-term aberration then this is a buying opportunity.
The falling demand that the industry is experiencing will also allow Qantas and other airlines to further cut capacity and/or try to increase fares.
If investors take the view that the current fuel price is a short-term aberration then this is a buying opportunity.
In particular, discount airlines around the world will be under pressure. While no-frills services run on the smell of an oily rag the price of that fuel is the same as it is for a full-service airline.
If fares are increased to compensate for rising fuel costs, the budget airlines, which have expanded the market to customers for whom air travel had been out of reach, will feel demand fall sharply.
If fares are increased to compensate for rising fuel costs, the budget airlines, which have expanded the market to customers for whom air travel had been out of reach, will feel demand fall sharply.
It's not rocket science is it? When air travel gets more expensive, Bogans won't fly. Those that do will expect higher levels of service, comfort and reliability that Qantas now cannot afford to provide, even if it's management wanted to.
The newer, more fuel-efficient planes that have been ordered will help mitigate cost increases but, in the current environment, aircraft will need to be taken out of the system more rapidly than new ones are introduced.
By the way, how do you repair a forklift hole in a composite fuselage?
So we can expect Dixon to continue to play hardball with the engineers and we should expect an announcement tomorrow of more cuts to capacity and routes, both domestic and international.
In a couple of months Dixon will need to front investors with a full-year result for the last time. It's already locked in.
It's the 2009 financial year that is causing some concern among investors and there is wild variation among analysts about what may ultimately be delivered.
In a couple of months Dixon will need to front investors with a full-year result for the last time. It's already locked in.
It's the 2009 financial year that is causing some concern among investors and there is wild variation among analysts about what may ultimately be delivered.
As for the full year result, I already told you it was locked in.
As for 2009, why would Dixon really care? Once he leaves the joint, you will never hear from him again. He will be off looking for greener pastures.
BTW: Don't blame PAF for his inflexible stupidity, he doesn't know any better. Of the three worst managers I've ever had, two were ex RAAF engineering officers who exhibited similar traits, not saying all RAAF are bad, but there seems to a lot of the rigid Yes/No, Black/White, "respect my authoritaaay" types.
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More flack...
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.as...ontentID=76994
Come on GD, your statement regard customers and employees is finally hitting home. Time to invest in customer service and employee conditions else it's gulg gulg gulg.....
A Perth businessman, who asked not to be named, said the airline was a joke after Tuesday’s scheduled 4.15pm Perth to Sydney flight did not leave until 2.30am yesterday, arriving in Sydney just before 9am.
Staff handed out ice-cream and opened doors to provide relief from the heat, but passengers were eventually asked to return to the waiting area.
The businessman described the debacle as a “dark day for Qantas” and blamed it on the airline’s recent pay dispute with the maintenance union.
Staff handed out ice-cream and opened doors to provide relief from the heat, but passengers were eventually asked to return to the waiting area.
The businessman described the debacle as a “dark day for Qantas” and blamed it on the airline’s recent pay dispute with the maintenance union.
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A Qantas spokeswoman said: “There will be occasions where technical issues lead to flight delays and this is regrettable, but we will never compromise on safety.”
True when it comes to LAMEs, not true from management. Just read what has been going on recently.
management ordering LAMEs to certify unserviceable aircraft and ignoring OH&S safe working procedures
AND scrapping Policy Manual procedures because it did not suit them during our PIA etc not to mention "bowl of rice" maintenance.
Stop the Bull
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IF Dixon talks sh*t then tell him we want 10%
or we will up the pain.
I am so sick of having to deal with these
bloody liars.
Next time they lie lets take them to civil court.
IF Dixon talks sh*t then tell him we want 10%
or we will up the pain.
I am so sick of having to deal with these
bloody liars.
Next time they lie lets take them to civil court.
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Had Enough!
Guys, Guys, Guys.
You are all doing such a great job during this dispute as standing as one.
Now please do yourselves a favour and continue to stand as one here in PPrune. Ignore the coments of PAF and continue reporting on the real stuff and not by responding to this ignorant individual that has no business here with you and your issues. When 'it' posts a thread just ignore 'it' and move onto more matters of interest.
Keep up the good work!
You are all doing such a great job during this dispute as standing as one.
Now please do yourselves a favour and continue to stand as one here in PPrune. Ignore the coments of PAF and continue reporting on the real stuff and not by responding to this ignorant individual that has no business here with you and your issues. When 'it' posts a thread just ignore 'it' and move onto more matters of interest.
Keep up the good work!
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While I totally agree with the sentiments above, replacing GD would not necessarily change the relationship we currently have with engineering management. Surely if GD goes someone of the same ilk will replace him as you have to be a prick to join the "snouts in trough" CEO matey club.
Lets focus on masseurs M and appropriate second name.
These two are the architects of the mess we now live and work in.
These are the people we need see gone if management ever wishes to engage the guys on the floor.
Why on earth should they stay? What have they achieved during their tenure.
Masses amount of red tape and no efficiencies, Look at the latest blunder regarding engine runs, The policy was written by the fat man due to a engine tail pipe fire incident during an ignition check NOT an engine run. So he overhauls the engine run policy at huge cost to the engineering budget. Talk about not having a grip on what goes on. The PPM towing procedure was installed a huge cost due a taxi and marshalling incident in JFK. The ensuing towing training from the least experienced and qualified trainers on how to tow an aircraft was more than irritating to most and insulting to some.
On time departures have dropped due to this pairs mismanagement. Managers (MACS) all YES men have been installed with no operational experience and it shows, Stupid PPM practices that take away any flexibility for the people on front end to work around problems.
Senior Lames and supervisors promoted due to a certificate rather than leadership ability shown or ability to actually do the job. A place where experience is a must to save time lost via management of costs through sensible troubleshooting.
What were they thinking when an ex stoner from survey blade bench and wannabe LAME was elevated to his position while the other was tech services in charge of curtains and carpets. I will concede well done to both of them in reaching this level and the remuneration package that goes with the positions but there is no excuse to the damage you have caused the operation and staff relationship.
If they had done nothing "on time performance" would have stayed the same but they intervened in places you knew naught and look at the mess.
The new level of management recently invented to insulate upper management from the front end of the operation was only required due to the current MACS in place had no idea on how to manage this facet of the business. More inefficiencies at huge cost but at least I can stop dumbing down my F500 reports.
So FOG stands but lets hope for same for the H and C
PS. PAF keep it coming. I enjoy your blatherings always amuzing.
While I totally agree with the sentiments above, replacing GD would not necessarily change the relationship we currently have with engineering management. Surely if GD goes someone of the same ilk will replace him as you have to be a prick to join the "snouts in trough" CEO matey club.
Lets focus on masseurs M and appropriate second name.
These two are the architects of the mess we now live and work in.
These are the people we need see gone if management ever wishes to engage the guys on the floor.
Why on earth should they stay? What have they achieved during their tenure.
Masses amount of red tape and no efficiencies, Look at the latest blunder regarding engine runs, The policy was written by the fat man due to a engine tail pipe fire incident during an ignition check NOT an engine run. So he overhauls the engine run policy at huge cost to the engineering budget. Talk about not having a grip on what goes on. The PPM towing procedure was installed a huge cost due a taxi and marshalling incident in JFK. The ensuing towing training from the least experienced and qualified trainers on how to tow an aircraft was more than irritating to most and insulting to some.
On time departures have dropped due to this pairs mismanagement. Managers (MACS) all YES men have been installed with no operational experience and it shows, Stupid PPM practices that take away any flexibility for the people on front end to work around problems.
Senior Lames and supervisors promoted due to a certificate rather than leadership ability shown or ability to actually do the job. A place where experience is a must to save time lost via management of costs through sensible troubleshooting.
What were they thinking when an ex stoner from survey blade bench and wannabe LAME was elevated to his position while the other was tech services in charge of curtains and carpets. I will concede well done to both of them in reaching this level and the remuneration package that goes with the positions but there is no excuse to the damage you have caused the operation and staff relationship.
If they had done nothing "on time performance" would have stayed the same but they intervened in places you knew naught and look at the mess.
The new level of management recently invented to insulate upper management from the front end of the operation was only required due to the current MACS in place had no idea on how to manage this facet of the business. More inefficiencies at huge cost but at least I can stop dumbing down my F500 reports.
So FOG stands but lets hope for same for the H and C
PS. PAF keep it coming. I enjoy your blatherings always amuzing.
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