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The Newport aviation contract has just been upped. It is now 140K for 6 months of dirty work. The MAS expats who want the quick cash are starting to realize that their MAS jobs are gone when they get back. Some quick biccies, no more career. Welcome to the strike breaker world.
Join Date: Apr 2008
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I'm shocked to hear men would give up the stability of long term or for that matter short term employment for a 'Gun for Hire' arrangement. What about their families and their future ?
I'm more concerned about what will happen on the tarmac if the scabs do arrive, it seems that many of my fellow LAMEs feel that physical violence is more than acceptable when someone is trying to steal your livelihood.
This I do not condone but certainly understand the emotion, I do feel very angry and whether on my days on or off I will be willing to help identify and mark these individuals so we can publicly OUT them.
If any exec or reps post here please PM me so I can do my bit as my alias implies I'm very good at hiding in a crowd.
Is there a chance we can keep an eye on the incoming Malaysian flights so as to possibly eyeball any potential strikebreakers ?
What disturbs me most of is that since the ALAEA put the stop on 457 visas used to break an industrial dispute the company has gone out of it's way to hire ex pats, these Ba$t@rds are AUSTRALIANS come to scab, is this not a most UNAUSTRALIAN act ?
I feel ill..................................
I'm more concerned about what will happen on the tarmac if the scabs do arrive, it seems that many of my fellow LAMEs feel that physical violence is more than acceptable when someone is trying to steal your livelihood.
This I do not condone but certainly understand the emotion, I do feel very angry and whether on my days on or off I will be willing to help identify and mark these individuals so we can publicly OUT them.
If any exec or reps post here please PM me so I can do my bit as my alias implies I'm very good at hiding in a crowd.
Is there a chance we can keep an eye on the incoming Malaysian flights so as to possibly eyeball any potential strikebreakers ?
What disturbs me most of is that since the ALAEA put the stop on 457 visas used to break an industrial dispute the company has gone out of it's way to hire ex pats, these Ba$t@rds are AUSTRALIANS come to scab, is this not a most UNAUSTRALIAN act ?
I feel ill..................................
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As far as sc@bs are concerned, QF have 2 basic problems. They have not been able to source as many as required, and original sc@bs do not want to renew now that things are starting to hot up.
A couple that have received 'friendly' phone calls have reached their max. 'heat' levels. QF had better hope those that do turn up have a bit more backbone than some of the early starters.
A couple that have received 'friendly' phone calls have reached their max. 'heat' levels. QF had better hope those that do turn up have a bit more backbone than some of the early starters.
Game on
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May I suggest that their names and any paperwork be sent through to the ALAEA office? I have heard that they would like a complete record of the coming period recorded so the lessons can be passed down to their children.
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When u say from what you have seen on the inside,5% is a more likely outcome-are u able to elaborate,tks.
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Say NO to overtime LAMEs. It's easy. Message well and truly clear at the International Terminus today (syd) normally 10-12 on o/t today there is none. Not a single Neddy. Well done.
Plenty of people in melb dom still don't get it,same heads still rollin in for OT today and over the weekend.Oh it hasn't started yet,the ban starts on the
16th. !!!!
Some people don't get it. Everyone can still put pressure on the company NOW by not working OT NOW.
Plenty of people in melb dom still don't get it,same heads still rollin in for OT today and over the weekend.Oh it hasn't started yet,the ban starts on the
16th. !!!!
Some people don't get it. Everyone can still put pressure on the company NOW by not working OT NOW.
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The best way to tackle this is slow and steady. Qf will be trying to end this quickly through intimidation and loss of income. A few 4 hour stop work here and there shouldn't create divisions amongst us. If people can't pay their mortgage thats where the divisions will start. however if it gets that bad I'm sure I've heard of a provision in the Superanuation laws to draw on that money if you are that financially F
to save your house. We are in for a long haul now. No OT will slowly catch up with them. And no one taking annual leave costs them $$$ as well. Work to rule follow the maint manual in every step by step instruction. In the end we will get a better offer than the pittance on offer now. Do you think GD wants to go into retirement with industrial action still happening. It may take a year. I havn't had a payrise for 18 months. Another year don't matter.
Don't do anything dumb. Stick together. We aren't asking for the earth.
to save your house. We are in for a long haul now. No OT will slowly catch up with them. And no one taking annual leave costs them $$$ as well. Work to rule follow the maint manual in every step by step instruction. In the end we will get a better offer than the pittance on offer now. Do you think GD wants to go into retirement with industrial action still happening. It may take a year. I havn't had a payrise for 18 months. Another year don't matter. Don't do anything dumb. Stick together. We aren't asking for the earth.
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I am in hock like every one else , however if your life relies on
OT then you need to have a long hard look at your finances!
You are either really greedy or really stupid.
All an OT ban means that you don't get any extra.
IT IS COSTING YOU NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am really dumbfounded that an OT ban is an issue.
GO HOME , spend time with the family or go to the pub!
LIVE
OT then you need to have a long hard look at your finances!
You are either really greedy or really stupid.
All an OT ban means that you don't get any extra.
IT IS COSTING YOU NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am really dumbfounded that an OT ban is an issue.
GO HOME , spend time with the family or go to the pub!
LIVE
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WEAK AS P1SS
The vote has barely been counted and there is still no unity. Give it up. Either every one is in or every one is screwed. Don't worry about the scabs QF have trained up to take your places they wont be needed because your ranks are full of scabs already.
You bitch and moan about QE management, well the problem is a lot closer to home.
This whole PIA ballot and vote will be worth nothing until you walk out and take some serious action.
No coming in on a call in. What a pathetic waste of time the last 5 months have been. Walk out. Walk out now and hit them hard. What a phukcen joke.
ONCE AGAIN WEAK AS P1SS AND A WASTE OF TIME
The vote has barely been counted and there is still no unity. Give it up. Either every one is in or every one is screwed. Don't worry about the scabs QF have trained up to take your places they wont be needed because your ranks are full of scabs already.
You bitch and moan about QE management, well the problem is a lot closer to home.
This whole PIA ballot and vote will be worth nothing until you walk out and take some serious action.
No coming in on a call in. What a pathetic waste of time the last 5 months have been. Walk out. Walk out now and hit them hard. What a phukcen joke.
ONCE AGAIN WEAK AS P1SS AND A WASTE OF TIME
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In todays news:
“Against a background of lengthy EBA negotiations over 19 months, and the union reneging on its ‘in principle’ agreement, the ALAEA is now choosing to disrupt Qantas customers,” said Dixon.
That's not what happened at all???
“Against a background of lengthy EBA negotiations over 19 months, and the union reneging on its ‘in principle’ agreement, the ALAEA is now choosing to disrupt Qantas customers,” said Dixon.
That's not what happened at all???
Dixon is playing the Politician. His argument is fact free.
Qantas invested in new equipemnt and people, not out of the goodness of their heart or any concern for Australians but to make more money.
If he threatens that Australian jobs will be sent offshore, it will be done for no other reason than to make more money
Corporations exist to make more money
Corporations will do anything at all to make more money
From extensive personal and business experience, whenever you hear any company telling the public that it exists to employ Australians, pay Australian taxes, contribute to the growth of the Australian economy, fly sick children to hospital, save baby dolphins, or make a contribution to the community, etc. you are hearing bull****. And the statement is invariably followed by a request for either public money or public or Government assistance.
Mr. Dixons statement falls neatly into this category.
Qantas invested in new equipemnt and people, not out of the goodness of their heart or any concern for Australians but to make more money.
If he threatens that Australian jobs will be sent offshore, it will be done for no other reason than to make more money
Corporations exist to make more money
Corporations will do anything at all to make more money
From extensive personal and business experience, whenever you hear any company telling the public that it exists to employ Australians, pay Australian taxes, contribute to the growth of the Australian economy, fly sick children to hospital, save baby dolphins, or make a contribution to the community, etc. you are hearing bull****. And the statement is invariably followed by a request for either public money or public or Government assistance.
Mr. Dixons statement falls neatly into this category.