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Unity re post 3801
1746 unfortunately the unity you speak of didn't happen in Cairns and Townsville.
We had Dmm's,Seniors & LAME's working shift extensions,call ins,aircraft rectification at remote ports,delivery flights, postings overseas and domestic.
Union reps participated in these (even call ins).Some O.T was done without putting timesheets in because they knew it was the wrong thing morally!
The Cairns Dmm's were the worst lining their pockets by working obscene amounts of overtime.They even had the audacity to comment "that they are helping the PIA by doing this".
The only thing that all of these people succeeded in doing was to make the PIA drag on longer.
The only positive outcome from these actions is now all these people have been exposed and no-one will forget.They walk around the workplace hanging their heads and people hardly talk to them.
Thankyou to S.P and all the negotiating team,also a big thankyou to all the volunteers,exec's,union reps etc.
It has been a tough time but your efforts are appreciated,looking forward to seeing the agreement.
The GOON
We had Dmm's,Seniors & LAME's working shift extensions,call ins,aircraft rectification at remote ports,delivery flights, postings overseas and domestic.
Union reps participated in these (even call ins).Some O.T was done without putting timesheets in because they knew it was the wrong thing morally!
The Cairns Dmm's were the worst lining their pockets by working obscene amounts of overtime.They even had the audacity to comment "that they are helping the PIA by doing this".
The only thing that all of these people succeeded in doing was to make the PIA drag on longer.
The only positive outcome from these actions is now all these people have been exposed and no-one will forget.They walk around the workplace hanging their heads and people hardly talk to them.
Thankyou to S.P and all the negotiating team,also a big thankyou to all the volunteers,exec's,union reps etc.
It has been a tough time but your efforts are appreciated,looking forward to seeing the agreement.
The GOON
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Lucky the company has seen fit to downsize Cairns,because you certainly would not want to be working alongside or under people with morals like that.
Always remember to tell anyone applying for a position in Cairns,just what sort of people work there......and it would be better to wait for a changing of the old guard.
Always remember to tell anyone applying for a position in Cairns,just what sort of people work there......and it would be better to wait for a changing of the old guard.
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FED SEC. What are QF playing at?
Nice job Fed Sec! Hope it comes up to scratch!
Even though a notice came out on Friday that the PIA was over some of the guys over at the Sydney Intl still got the interview with 3 Managers present asking for them to work O/T after shift. Read "pressure". When declined they wanted a reason and some were told that this will be normal when they come over to help the Base guys. The SIO guys work 0600 to 1700 and have been told they will be expected to work 0600 to 1800 to line up with the base guys.
What's with this? Compulsory O/T? Why is this still going on? Truce flag has supposed to have gone up and bulets are still coming from QF managers!
This happening at any other ports?
If management are reading this, think about what you guys are up to. We do not take kindly to being pressured. You guys don't really want another war do you? Or DO you?
If you kick sand around the sandpit you may just get it kicked back at you or the wind may blow it back in your face.
Cut out the bulls++t! If you guys are fair dinkum and just want guys to work O/T now the PIA is over, just ask! You don't need 2 Managers (DM & PS) and 1 Ops Manager to do that. You ARE playing silly buggers! Naughty!
Common sense must prevail at this point on both sides. If these Managers are working on their own (which I doubt) they need to be pulled into line now. If they are doing what they are told from above heads should roll!
We all want this over with a good result for all. If these idiots keep throwing stones and try to pull the compulsory O/T card out the boys will revolt. Very simple. It then becomes personal, no PIA, no ALAEA/LAMES vs QF. People will not be bullied.
FED SEC what the hell are doing? We need this crap to stop NOW!
Any other ports getting this same garbage?
Devcon4
Even though a notice came out on Friday that the PIA was over some of the guys over at the Sydney Intl still got the interview with 3 Managers present asking for them to work O/T after shift. Read "pressure". When declined they wanted a reason and some were told that this will be normal when they come over to help the Base guys. The SIO guys work 0600 to 1700 and have been told they will be expected to work 0600 to 1800 to line up with the base guys.
What's with this? Compulsory O/T? Why is this still going on? Truce flag has supposed to have gone up and bulets are still coming from QF managers!
This happening at any other ports?
If management are reading this, think about what you guys are up to. We do not take kindly to being pressured. You guys don't really want another war do you? Or DO you?
If you kick sand around the sandpit you may just get it kicked back at you or the wind may blow it back in your face.
Cut out the bulls++t! If you guys are fair dinkum and just want guys to work O/T now the PIA is over, just ask! You don't need 2 Managers (DM & PS) and 1 Ops Manager to do that. You ARE playing silly buggers! Naughty!
Common sense must prevail at this point on both sides. If these Managers are working on their own (which I doubt) they need to be pulled into line now. If they are doing what they are told from above heads should roll!
We all want this over with a good result for all. If these idiots keep throwing stones and try to pull the compulsory O/T card out the boys will revolt. Very simple. It then becomes personal, no PIA, no ALAEA/LAMES vs QF. People will not be bullied.
FED SEC what the hell are doing? We need this crap to stop NOW!
Any other ports getting this same garbage?
Devcon4
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Less is less
I would have got more under the first offer, I know its not all about me but this is the second time I have had to wear a less offer the second time round. Why did we have industrial action? More for all? maybe not?
Just read the notice-its a yes from me and considering the pressure these guys have been under to give us a result as well as having to deal with a company that was never prepared to move i think they have really given us something that we have never achieved before.Granted there are some that have not done as well as others but in life that happens and it could be our turn next time.WELL DONE,time to move forward.
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Question
Do our accrued service points get carried over on grade movement
or are they absorbed?
I hope it is a 100% drop!
VVVV Thanks Bexley
Do our accrued service points get carried over on grade movement
or are they absorbed?
i here the alternate boys 
ers have just been given a pay drop
ers have just been given a pay drop
VVVV Thanks Bexley
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If you says that's the best SP well im happy with that. You have more inside knowledge than anyone else. All must remember the respect and importance Engineering now have in the eyes of management. All there lies are now out in the open and the deficiency's apparent for all to see. Mr KB may wish to eat his words about he level increase eh. Remember he said we were too greedy.
Brilliant work Bexley!
You have more inside knowledge than anyone else. All must remember the respect and importance Engineering now have in the eyes of management. All there lies are now out in the open and the deficiency's apparent for all to see. Mr KB may wish to eat his words about he level increase eh. Remember he said we were too greedy.Brilliant work Bexley!
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Let's just say that we seem happy with the "Package". Win / Win.
The sad thing is that we could have been here in 2007 and Qf
would not have brought on so much pain to the airline. This is managements own fault!
The sad thing is that we could have been here in 2007 and Qf
would not have brought on so much pain to the airline. This is managements own fault!
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Progression
George and stork, The way i read it is 11 onwards still needs full training course.Fed Sec is this true? and how have the quota's been relaxed??
Looks like a pretty good deal well done. There still will be the people that will vote no because they are disenchanted with the treatment they have received from the company.
Looks like a pretty good deal well done. There still will be the people that will vote no because they are disenchanted with the treatment they have received from the company.