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Beamr 2nd September 2024 15:02

Drone pouring thermite?




Wokkafans 2nd September 2024 16:18


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11727699)


More footage here of the Thermite drone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ing_napalm_on/


zen krempie 2nd September 2024 16:41


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11727424)
Deciphering the narrative can be a fickle thing, here I show two examples of the car being hit on the autobahn in Belgorod. The first example blames it on a wayward Russian pantsir destroying the car, however, the second clip attributes it to a Ukrainian launched Czech supplied NATO missiles…. You decide which is the truth.



https://x.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1829791065118773298



https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1829839619963126154

Anti aircraft missiles have a distinctive explosion, plenty of vids. Doesn't match with this explosion. There is also a second strike, doubt two pantsir missiles at the same spot.

Pali 2nd September 2024 16:51

Imagine the horror of BTR crew and infantry, when suddenly you face a tank shooting at you.


Then the tank is coming closer and destroys your unit from point-blank.



ORAC 2nd September 2024 17:44

Ukraine to receive 36 Serbian MiG-29s from France

Serbia has signed a contract with France for the purchase of 12 Rafale fighter jets for €3 billion. Part of the amount — $390 million — will be covered by the delivery of 36 MiG-29s to Paris.

The fighters will arrive in France in December, and will then be handed over to Ukraine.

Moscow has, reportedly, been informed.

The Serbian MiG-29SE have an improved radar for the simultaneous attack of two targets, the ability to use RVV-AE (R-77) missiles and an increased combat load of up to 4,000 kg.

fdr 2nd September 2024 19:07


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11727424)
Deciphering the narrative can be a fickle thing, here I show two examples of the car being hit on the autobahn in Belgorod. The first example blames it on a wayward Russian pantsir destroying the car, however, the second clip attributes it to a Ukrainian launched Czech supplied NATO missiles…. You decide which is the truth.



https://x.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1829791065118773298



https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1829839619963126154


but really, how would they know, it may have been a Tesla, it burnt well enough, and it may not have had a driver at all, bless AI, like a Lada version of a Waymo. Not much chance of finding much forensic evidence to support the contention of there being a driver at all.

What would Sherlock conclude?

El Grifo 2nd September 2024 19:15

Re the vids of the dropping of "thermite" or "liquid napalm" on troops below !!

Can you imagine the shreiks and howls from the "war lovers" around here had it been the Russians that carried out this rather obscene act !
Fingers would be bleeding on keyboards howling for full thermonuclear retribution.
As it was the Ukrainians, as has been stated, hardly a squeak !!

NutLoose 2nd September 2024 19:22

Tragic to see this happening, but it’s for the best.

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fdr 2nd September 2024 19:23


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11727699)


Well, golly, that is inventive. Reminiscent of lead cauldron pour off the ramparts of a castle. Putin is advancing Russia into medieval ages at an impressive rate, with Ukrainian ingenuity illuminating their path.

That might get a reaction from the UN or ICRC, but as they appear to have a loss of identity and certainly purpose, perhaps not. A great incentive to go home though, and a disconcerting new manner to mess about in the rear of a "superior" force by a savvy and adept smaller force. Wonder how long until those are available on eBay in Taiwan.

This "modern/medieval" warfare is becoming pretty effective at messing up participants and bystanders, seems like an unfortunate alternative to removing one x kleptocratic sociopath from his perch at the 6th floor window sill.


sealo0 2nd September 2024 19:24


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11727824)
Re the vids of the dropping of "thermite" or "liquid napalm" on troops below !!

Can you imagine the shreiks and howls from the "war lovers" around here had it been the Russians that carried out this rather obscene act !
Fingers would be bleeding on keyboards howling for full thermonuclear retribution.
As it was the Ukrainians, as has been stated, hardly a squeak !!

Then give them western weapons and they would not need to make their own!

NutLoose 2nd September 2024 19:37

Another by product of this sodding war… :sad:


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NutLoose 2nd September 2024 19:52

Yeah right, of course we believe you….


Reuters reports that Moscow oil refinery suspended operations at combined refining unit Euro+ (that includes crude distillation unit CDU-6), after a drone attack on Sunday. The Euro+ unit accounts for about 50% of the plant's total prime refining capacity, as its crude distillation unit has a capacity of 6 million metric tons of oil per year. Russian authorities first claimed all the drones have been shot down, then said the fire took place in a "separate technical room."
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NutLoose 2nd September 2024 20:04

I take it this chap is not an officer and a gentleman. No wonder several of them have been shot, run over, or had grenades lobbed into their sleeping quarters.


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NutLoose 2nd September 2024 20:15

Next potential targets?

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Beamr 2nd September 2024 20:56


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11727824)
Re the vids of the dropping of "thermite" or "liquid napalm" on troops below !!

Can you imagine the shreiks and howls from the "war lovers" around here had it been the Russians that carried out this rather obscene act !
Fingers would be bleeding on keyboards howling for full thermonuclear retribution.
As it was the Ukrainians, as has been stated, hardly a squeak !!

As Russkies have been shelling Ukrainian cities and civilians with white phosphorus since day one, I'd say "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

tdracer 2nd September 2024 22:33


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11727824)
Re the vids of the dropping of "thermite" or "liquid napalm" on troops below !!

Can you imagine the shreiks and howls from the "war lovers" around here had it been the Russians that carried out this rather obscene act !
Fingers would be bleeding on keyboards howling for full thermonuclear retribution.
As it was the Ukrainians, as has been stated, hardly a squeak !!

Not sure why that would be a whole lot different than using Napalm - which has been widely used in previous wars...

fdr 2nd September 2024 22:45


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11727855)

It's Putins means to destroy Ukrainian drones by blowing up POL facilities, and power stations and bridges, T-80's etc, Pretty clever tactic really, seems to be taking out lots of drones by doing this method.

El Grifo 2nd September 2024 22:57


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11727913)
Not sure why that would be a whole lot different than using Napalm - which has been widely used in previous wars...

Quite horrific !
Russia has used similar in Ukraine to howls of derision !
Not so many howls when the other way around !
Just Sayin .

rattman 2nd September 2024 22:59


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11727781)
Ukraine to receive 36 Serbian MiG-29s from France

Serbia has signed a contract with France for the purchase of 12 Rafale fighter jets for €3 billion. Part of the amount — $390 million — will be covered by the delivery of 36 MiG-29s to Paris.

Only people reporting this are the grifters David and Igor. Serbia doesn't own that many mig-29's only about 4 are flying

MechEngr 3rd September 2024 02:13


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11727925)
Quite horrific !
Russia has used similar in Ukraine to howls of derision !
Not so many howls when the other way around !
Just Sayin .

More a question of who it is used on. Russia loves schools, hospitals, museums, train platforms as bombing targets. If there is further derision it is not the weapon but why it is used. Russia uses them to steal land and kill civilians and destroy homes. Ukraine is using them for defense.

I don't deride a porcupine for leaving a face filled with needles on an animal that seeks to kill it, though even then the porcupine is usually an attempted meal. Russia has not even that need to attack Ukraine.

This war is solely driven by the desire of the wealthy in control of Russia to remain obese in their wealth and that makes every Russian action an obscenity.


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