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ORAC 13th Sep 2022 17:00

ISW: Ukraine’s southern counteroffensive continues to have significant impact on Russian military capabilities.

The Institute for the Study of War said satellite imagery of known Russian positions in Kyselivka, 15 km northwest of Kherson, shows just four Russian vehicles left…

ORAC 13th Sep 2022 17:25

https://news.sky.com/story/armenia-s...aijan-12696228

Armenia says 49 soldiers killed as fighting breaks out with Azerbaijan

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey...an-2022-09-13/

Turkey backs Azerbaijan, says Armenia 'should cease provocations'

uxb99 13th Sep 2022 17:30


Originally Posted by Octane (Post 11296210)
The amount of heavy equipment and munitions the Russians are leaving behind is staggering. Normally the biggest problem for a rapidly advancing army is resupply? Apparently not in this situation..?

Also helps if you use similar kit. I would think the bigger issue is all the Western kit they have. Logistics nightmare.

dead_pan 13th Sep 2022 17:53


Originally Posted by Octane (Post 11296210)
The amount of heavy equipment and munitions the Russians are leaving behind is staggering. Normally the biggest problem for a rapidly advancing army is resupply? Apparently not in this situation..?

Yup, the Ukes can re-arm and re-supply as they go, courtesy of the kit Russia has abandoned. Its almost as though the Russian mil is willing them to win...

NutLoose 13th Sep 2022 19:06

I must admit I do like the way the Ukrainians are taking the time to thank those countries for the aid and showing it in use.


ORAC 13th Sep 2022 19:22

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....55f088ae0.jpeg

NutLoose 13th Sep 2022 19:25

Ukrainian losses have been published..


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b60cb99ffc.png

ORAC 13th Sep 2022 19:30

“Yesterday Kyiv has said that there will be no exchange - they are not pow. Teachers will now reportedly face up to 15 years in prison. Highly likely ukriane will follow through on threat: raising the stakes for others involved in military-educational tourism”


albatross 13th Sep 2022 19:43


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11296132)
Before the snows arrive…

Bridge is going to be busy again.

Ukrainian intelligence: Russian occupiers begin leaving Crimea, southern Ukraine with their families.

An “urgent evacuation” of Russian proxies, intelligence officers, and military commanders is taking place, the Main Intelligence Directorate said.

“They are not retreating from Ukraine. They are advancing upon Moscow! “ (if only that scenario would come to pass).

ORAC 13th Sep 2022 19:44

Rome is related thread…

An open gun pit. How is this still a thing after Armenia's 2020 defeat?..

FUMR 13th Sep 2022 20:00

ORAC, may I politely suggest that you perhaps start a separate thread for the Armenian conflict?

NutLoose 13th Sep 2022 20:23

They are retreating from Melitopol and heading to Crimea?. It almost makes you wonder if someone else is now in control of their military.


NutLoose 13th Sep 2022 21:35

More worn out Russian artillery barrels


NutLoose 13th Sep 2022 21:46

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b98551d73.jpeg

skridlov 13th Sep 2022 22:11

It's not often that I feel moved to quote/paraphrase Emperor Hirohito but here goes:
"The situation in the war has developed, not necessarily to Japan's advantage..."

cynicalint 13th Sep 2022 22:36

Nutty,
Are sure that is not a Rushin' soldier?

RatherBeFlying 13th Sep 2022 22:39

Reports indicate that RF troops in some locations are short on food and water as well as ammo.

Argentinian troops in the later stages of the Falklands suffered similar privations, but had nowhere to go. RF troops have a much shorter walk home.

Undersupplied troops won't be in a position to put up much of a fight come winter.
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fdr 14th Sep 2022 00:37


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11296346)
They are retreating from Melitopol and heading to Crimea?. It almost makes you wonder if someone else is now in control of their military.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...76560630005760

Curious. So the west coast of the. Sea of Azov gets depleted with invaders, and the Red team congregates in... Crimea, which is dependent on:

1. Water supply from Kherson via the canal... ;
2. Airbridge to Russia at targets Airports;
3. The Kerch target Bridge.
4. Shipping to the west coast of the Sea of Azov, and to Crimea. "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today"... [ Beatty, Jutland, 1916]

What could possibly go wrong with that plan... :}


In the meantime, Russian activity in what ends up being a salient around eastern Donbas comes from limited rail lines. 5 (Five)... in range of slingshots, let alone Su-25, Mi-17, HIMARS, 155's....

Nothing wrong with that plan Igor... :ok:

Just in case the nutters are still in charge, distributing forces might be a nice idea for Ukraine, something outside of TNW badness circles might be prudent.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....15f70df7a6.png


Beamr 14th Sep 2022 04:53

Kremlin tightens their grip and warns the Russians of criticising the "special military operation". In essence: there's an open window for every Russian if required.


Originally Posted by Moscow. September 13th. INTERFAX.RU
The Kremlin said that it is necessary to be careful with criticism of the special operation in Ukraine

- Critical remarks about the special military operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine in the light of recent events are permissible within the framework of the current legislation, but the line in this matter is very shaky, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

“As for other, critical points of view, as long as they remain within the framework of the current legislation, this is pluralism. But the line is very, very thin. You have to be very careful here,” Peskov warned. So he answered the request of journalists to comment on critical posts in telegram channels in connection with the latest events during the special military operation in Ukraine.

"Public opinion is so sensitive to what is happening in the framework of a special military operation, it is clear that public opinion reacts very, very emotionally," he said.

At the same time, Peskov stressed that "the Russians support the president, this is confirmed by the mood of the people, their actions, participation in the elections and the choice made by those who used their vote." "This is confirmed by statistic data," Peskov stressed.

He noted that society is consolidated around the decisions that the head of state makes.


rattman 14th Sep 2022 05:00

Theres an interview going around if a russian with flashburn to hands and face. Dunno if the translation is true or a troll by NAFO

-Where were you going?
-...Near Izyum.
-Advancing or retreating?
-No clue.
-Why are you in Ukraine?
-I am a dumb****.
-Rank?
-Seaman First Class
-F L O A T I N G T A N K S???
-I was reasigned to a tank, given a week of training.
-Fleet?
-Baltic Fleet.
-You are lucky to be alive.



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