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NutLoose 7th Apr 2022 18:11

Wow.. I didn’t see this coming.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cc4b0d29b.jpeg




NutLoose 7th Apr 2022 20:20

Captain Blunder, the Belarus Fool, has just admitted he sent Belarusian forces into Ukraine.



NutLoose 7th Apr 2022 20:29


Originally Posted by TEEEJ (Post 11212050)
Putin's press secretary Peskov just admitted on Sky News that Russian troops have suffered significant losses in Ukraine. I wonder how long he will be around?

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1512111219028733955

Following on from this, it’s now appears to be sinking in..


Addlepate 7th Apr 2022 20:37


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11211898)
There are discussions going on in the US asking about bringing back lend lease

Isn;t it a bit more than discussion? The bill unanimously passed in Senate yesterday was the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act.

GlobalNav 8th Apr 2022 00:02


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11212142)
Captain Blunder, the Belarus Fool, has just admitted he sent Belarusian forces into Ukraine.


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...Cy3cOcm_wpAAAA

and does Belarus have nukes?

what prevents western nations from dealing definitively with Belarusian forces?

GlobalNav 8th Apr 2022 00:04


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11212086)

Let’s add the courageous and compassionate Moldovans.

tartare 8th Apr 2022 02:40


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11212081)
I do hope this turns out to be a disaster for the Russians if true…

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndep...77491585761296

Seems to be alluding to a Kursk like conflict.
Certainly a hell of a lot armour on trains heading south...

RatherBeFlying 8th Apr 2022 05:30

Will there be enough NLAWs, Javelins and other such missiles to take out the newly arriving tanks?

The Finns got lucky in Stalin's second invasion when he sent tanks along the frozen Gulf of Finland. A few shells from a shore battery broke up the ice and sent the tanks to the bottom.

Beamr 8th Apr 2022 06:47


Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying (Post 11212279)

The Finns got lucky in Stalin's second invasion when he sent tanks along the frozen Gulf of Finland. A few shells from a shore battery broke up the ice and sent the tanks to the bottom.

Never heard of this, which battle was it?

Ninthace 8th Apr 2022 08:41

Here is some aviation content, albeit of dubious quality
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...russian-black/

jolihokistix 8th Apr 2022 09:00

Ninthace, article above locked.

NutLoose 8th Apr 2022 09:06


Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying (Post 11212279)
Will there be enough NLAWs, Javelins and other such missiles to take out the newly arriving tanks?


I did wonder if now they are armed with the new Switchblade 600 that has a range of nearly 40 km, would it not be ideal to start hitting the tanks at the rear while they are forming up and re-equipping, I would imagine it would cause fear and disallusionment amongst those fresh troops and conscripts before they even set off. Also will the weather not start to play a role as it is getting warmer with the occasional rain, and they I should imagine are going to be roadbound again. Also would the self propelled artillery be more of an ideal target along with fuel.

Tartiflette Fan 8th Apr 2022 09:38


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11212387)
I did wonder if now they are armed with the new Switchblade 600 that has a range of nearly 40 kml.

April 05 2022 "The Pentagon plans to order and send to Ukraine 10 of the newest model Switchblade drones armed with tank-busting warheads in addition to previously announced deliveries of a less powerful version, according to two people familiar with the decision."

This model - the 600 - has the same war-head as in the Javelin: the 300 has the same HE load as a 40 mm grenade.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...e-tank-killers

Ripton 8th Apr 2022 10:00


Originally Posted by GlobalNav (Post 11212208)
and does Belarus have nukes?

what prevents western nations from dealing definitively with Belarusian forces?

It wouldn't surprise me if Putin doesn't consider Belarusian forces to be an extension of the RF forces albeit slightly more expendable. As such he would would consider an attack on them would be an an attack on him.

That's not to say I don't think sending Putin a message by making an example out of Lukashenko would be a bad thing.


Tartiflette Fan 8th Apr 2022 10:12


Originally Posted by GlobalNav (Post 11212208)
a
what prevents western nations from dealing definitively with Belarusian forces?

How would you differentiate between Belarussian troops and RF troops stationed/staging there ? What do you think the consequences of an attack on Russian troops - there at the invitation of the Belarussian government - would be ?

212man 8th Apr 2022 11:02


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11212302)
Never heard of this, which battle was it?

The Winter War - some details here: A Short History Of The 'Winter War' | Imperial War Museums (iwm.org.uk)

Beamr 8th Apr 2022 11:44


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 11212447)

I am aware of the winter war, as it happens my grand father fought in it, but I've never heard that any soviet tanks would've tried to join the battle via the Gulf of Finland nor the finns shelling the ice to submerge those. However I am open for new information.
Also, that was the first invasion. The second was the Continuation war 1941-1944 .

NutLoose 8th Apr 2022 11:46

There is a film on youtube regarding the loss of the NATO Romanian Lancer and Puma that crashed a while back, however if you go to 4.55 area it shows the SU27 that was shown from a drone to have belly landed in a Ukrainian field, but from the ground, it appears to be pretty much intact.


Beamr 8th Apr 2022 12:49

Soviet Russian authorities say that a Mig31 crashed today in the Leningrad region. Authorities say that the jet was on a routine training mission when crashed. The crew ejected safely.

https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/14324931

Usertim 8th Apr 2022 14:29

Aviation content.

Nice article about Bayraktar , and some hints that UAF now operate the 'mini' bayraktar too.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...n-ukraine.html


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