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SLXOwft 9th Mar 2022 19:08

TF - I hope you and the CDS are right.

Was it this one 'lead elements decimated' ?

Whole CDS interview can be accessed here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...rning-06032022 if you have a BBC Account (not sure if UK only) starts 30 minutes in.

CDS Sky Interview

Although I expect it was brief, I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when he had an audience of HMQ today.

macmp419 9th Mar 2022 19:13


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11197442)
UTTER drivel.

You really think every Bio-Lab is working on Bio-Weapons?

Go away and have a good word with yourself you fool.

Very much agree with you ExAscooteer, that particular “news” site seems dubious to say the least, and I will never believe a word that originates from that Vipers mouth.

Wokkafans 9th Mar 2022 19:15


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11197408)
Had they logged on to website of the US Embassy in Kyiv they would have found out what this actually is about, there is an article about it announcing the start of the project, Been up and running since 2011 IIRC and is nothing to do with bio weapons.


Details here:

https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyi...163.1646856794

Tartiflette Fan 9th Mar 2022 19:16


Originally Posted by macmp419 (Post 11197451)
Very much agree with you ExAscooteer, that particular “news” site seems dubious to say the least, and I will never believe a word that originates from that Vipers mouth.

When I attempted to look, i got warnings about the site and didn't proceed. Who was the viper ?

Tartiflette Fan 9th Mar 2022 19:21


Originally Posted by SLXOwft (Post 11197447)
TF - I hope you and the CDS are right.

Was it this one 'lead elements decimated' ?
.

Yes that was the one.

macmp419 9th Mar 2022 19:23


Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan (Post 11197455)
Who was the viper ?

The Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Maria Vladimirovna Zakharova.

Just This Once... 9th Mar 2022 19:48


Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan (Post 11197415)
Another piece of Ukranian propaganda ( at least if you believe the IAEA ) designed to stampede the West over fears of Chernobyl radiation: it's just not very sophisticated.

...due to the amount of time since the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, the spent fuel had cooled down enough that “the pool is sufficient to maintain effective heat removal without the need for electrical supply”."

I think we have your number on who is providing biased content. The plant really has been seized by the Russians and nobody serious has suggested otherwise.

Oh nice bate and switch linking the 1986 disaster as the source of all the spent fuel being cooled there. In reality the wider complex remained a functioning nuclear power station until around 2001 and it became a major national store of decommissioned nuclear material, for somewhat obvious reasons, in the period since.

rattman 9th Mar 2022 19:50


Originally Posted by macmp419 (Post 11197451)
Very much agree with you ExAscooteer, that particular “news” site seems dubious to say the least, and I will never believe a word that originates from that Vipers mouth.


According to that article the site I used to IT support for that is doing a combined study into malaria and moquitos with an american university is a bio weapons site. Any lab doing work with an american institution needs to be accreditied by the US to at least an equivalent as required in the us

Just This Once... 9th Mar 2022 19:54


Originally Posted by SLXOwft (Post 11197434)
UK MoD Facebook and Twitter post/tweet DI stating Russia has confirmed it is using thermobaric rockets

The MoD needs to be careful here as one man's 'augmented effects' is another man's 'thermobaric'. The distinction has to be the way these weapons are being used, especially for those in glass houses.

NutLoose 9th Mar 2022 20:00

The gloves are well and Truly off.


Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦@IAPonomarenko·47mA new bill officially makes it totally legal for civilians to kill Russian military personnel deployed to Ukraine

Lonewolf_50 9th Mar 2022 20:05

Why do they need a law permitting that? They have been invaded.
(Good Lord, have the lawyers screwed up the world that badly?)

NutLoose 9th Mar 2022 20:12

Good morning, get out and you’ll stay alive, man with a grenade tapping on an APC hatch.


fitliker 9th Mar 2022 20:14


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11197442)
UTTER drivel.

You really think every Bio-Lab is working on Bio-Weapons?

Go away and have a good word with yourself you fool.

I do hope you are right , not about me being a fool as that has already been confirmed a long time ago .
Not every lab is a bio lab ,but it can be suspicious when access is restricted and verification is not allowed like the access restriction and complete lack of transparency in Wuhan and other countries laboratories . Gets even more suspicious when you look at the premature deaths of Several of the Scientists involved with the viruses acquisitions .
The Iranian nuclear program has more transparency than some of these “ civilian “ labs .

The original “story “came across the wires on three separate news sources , I did not quote the Chinese sites as they had twisted the words of the American diplomat to suit their headline , and I did not quote the Russian news site as it also was selectively editing the words spoken by a US senator . I did quote the gateway pundit as it is like the onion , almost comical . We old fellas would call it a “wind up site “satirical news site . Newbies call it click bait .
Story now being reported on the Daily mail and other sites almost two weeks since the story first broke on foreign wire services .


NutLoose 9th Mar 2022 20:17


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 11197476)
Why do they need a law permitting that? They have been invaded.
(Good Lord, have the lawyers screwed up the world that badly?)

Probably to cover the backs of civilians if and when it ends, though does that in effect make them no longer civilians? Not that it makes any difference to the Russians as they are targeting them, however it will let the Russians know that every and any civilian can and will kill them.

Tartiflette Fan 9th Mar 2022 20:18


Originally Posted by Just This Once... (Post 11197468)
I think we have your number on who is providing biased content. The plant really has been seized by the Russians and nobody serious has suggested otherwise.

Oh nice bate and switch linking the 1986 disaster as the source of all the spent fuel being cooled there. In reality the wider complex remained a functioning nuclear power station until around 2001 and it became a major national store of decommissioned nuclear material, for somewhat obvious reasons, in the period since.

"I think we have your number" Ha ! You sound like that old coot of a sergeant in "Carry on Sergeant" EDIT: William Hartnell

"The plant really has been seized by the Russians nobody serious has suggested otherwise."
Quite correct - it hasn't been discussed at all by anybody. Why are you raising it ? The question is whether the cooling ponds need electricity ( supposedly disconnected by the Russians ) to keep the spent rods at a safe temperature. I hope you can understand this now.

"Oh nice bate and switch linking the 1986 disaster as the source of all the spent fuel being cooled there"
That, by the way, should be "bait", you know , like fish. As for the other part, you re right., I didn't know about the later history of CHernobyl and thought everything stopped with the accident. But tell me, since you seem to be implying I had some other motive for saying that, what "benefit" was it supposed to bring ? Who cares when the rods date from - apart from you, of course?

NutLoose 9th Mar 2022 20:23

I hope the mothers of the sh*ts that shelled this see it and find out their child was responsible

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....01bb67de7.jpeg

WB627 9th Mar 2022 20:26

It crosses my mind that Putin wants to go out in a bang and is goading the west to start it

NutLoose 9th Mar 2022 20:32

Blimey, defusing a bomb with three guys and a bottle of water, talk about big ones…



DogTailRed2 9th Mar 2022 20:48


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11197496)
I hope the mothers of the sh*ts that shelled this see it and find out their child was responsible
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501654584992968712

Those images are depressingly reminiscent of WW2.

DogTailRed2 9th Mar 2022 20:52


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11197475)

A civilian that picks up a weapon is no longer a civilian?


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