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Old 21st June 2024 | 11:33
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Ukraine having the same problem with Abrams and Chally as the Germans did in the same region with the Tiger 1 (and to a lesser degree with the Panther) and why the T-34 had a huge advantage over the terrain over there, outside of a small window after the summer sun had dried everything out.
Gee, you are going to spoil Vlads next years Mayday parade if he reads your comments. there are still a few T-34's kicking around parade grounds that haven't been impressed to the front line yet. Drone dropped RPG rounds may relieve some of their utility.
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Old 21st June 2024 | 12:01
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It sure sounds like Putler is all-in on Ukraine.
As he sees defeat in Ukraine as the end of Russia, so how far is he willing to go? NBC? MAD?
Whatever it is, Russia must lose, as if they win in Ukraine it just makes them want more and escalate until they are stopped, killing millions in the process. More than half a million casualties are already counted for.

The faster russkies are taken care of the less innocent people will suffer.



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Old 21st June 2024 | 12:14
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More on the same theme.


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Old 21st June 2024 | 12:29
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Russian AD is very efficiently defending Ukrainian airspace from Russian military aircrafts.


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Old 21st June 2024 | 13:17
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Wow, that’s ripe!

Putrid not keen on the possibility of a change in stance from S Korea. Let’s hope that his grovelling to the Glorious Leader in the north gets him lots more dud ammunition resulting in more self-annihilation for the orcs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ee8x221lno
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Old 21st June 2024 | 14:07
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Putin is reportedly in NK to gain supplies to help him fight Ukraine, if true, how on earth is he going to carry out his claim that Moscow is willing to arm Pyongyang if the US and its allies continue supplying Ukraine with weapons.
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Old 21st June 2024 | 14:29
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This interview with Greg Bagwell is required viewing! He has plenty to say about recent Russian air force performance. It's 53 minutes but it's all gold.
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Old 21st June 2024 | 15:36
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OK, I'll confess - I turned on the 'puter before I'd put the specs on, and all my blurred vision saw was "Air Marshall Ba***ll"! My wife came in to see what had set off my incandescence THIS time... I wholeheartedly apologise to her, our impressionable young black Labs and any neighbours in earshot.

Thouroughly enjoyed listening - maybe there is some merit in these new-fangled podcast thingies after all
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Old 21st June 2024 | 15:45
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Glad you liked it! I reckon it deserves to be seen much more widely. Only 2400 views since it was published in March. Where else can you get such reliable info? Greg knows deep info from the sharp end and reveals a great deal with some measured plain speaking.
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Old 21st June 2024 | 16:26
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https://kyivindependent.com/drones-t...media-reports/

Drones target military airfield in Krasnodar Krai, Russian media reports

Editor's Note: This is a developing story and is being updated.

Drones attacked the Yeysk military airfield in Russia's Krasnodar Krai in the early hours of June 21, the Russian Telegram news channel Astra claimed.

Residents reported that a fire broke out due to the attack. Local authorities have not commented on the details of the attack.

The Krasnodar Krai Operations Center officially reported that several districts in the region, including Yeysk, had come under a massive attack overnight. The other targeted areas are the Severskaya and Temryuk districts.….
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Old 21st June 2024 | 16:28
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Video🇺🇦 Ukraine unveils ST-1, an autonomous mine-detecting drone that scans 1 hectare in 4 hours—4x faster than humans.

Flying at 70cm with dual metal detector coils, it overcomes self-interference for accurate ground scanning, says Dmytro Titov, AILAND SYSTEMS CEO.
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Originally Posted by Exrigger
Putin is reportedly in NK to gain supplies to help him fight Ukraine, if true, how on earth is he going to carry out his claim that Moscow is willing to arm Pyongyang if the US and its allies continue supplying Ukraine with weapons.
Not battlefield weapons per se.
Russia has already supplied DPRK with all of those advanced systems we see on TV parading in front of the Dear Leader, hypersonics etc. Kim swore to his father that he would pursue the nuclear path unflinchingly. They now want certain key ICBM missile systems and technological refinements to bring NK up to parity with China, Russia and the US. Since Kim came to Vladivostok, Putin may have been feeling uncomfortable pressure to reveal some of these in exchange for help with supplies of ammo etc..
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Old 21st June 2024 | 17:05
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Originally Posted by fdr
24 FEB 2022.

UNC §51 made it one on that day, the preamble of the charter spells out the intent of the UN membership to be morally obliged to support a nation under aggression from another, the fact that the UNSG apparent cal only pass water sitting down and the members of the UNSC need HRT or al least a re-read of §27(3) such would stop the sillyness of Vlad's 3 day SMO kabuki theatre.

Vlad has clarified the point that the Russian bear was not in good shape, their army is the 2nd best in Belgorod, Crimea, Donbas and Donetsk; they have gone from energy exporting to domestic rationing; their economy has gone from vibrant to parlous; demographics which were happy are now an existential threat to their population. All before morning polonium tea time. The bears air defence system makes great targets for Ukraines planners, their AEWC aircraft get shot down, their navy got beaten by an army, didn't need a navy to add artificial reefs to the Black Sea diving sites.

On the plus side, Vlad has helped the meme community substantially, and the sunflowers will bloom better over time.

When Russia finally collapses, it will be as fast as last time, and that appears to be approaching at a pretty good clip. When the banks shut down the exchange is suspended, the population starts to get pretty vocal. Vlad is playing Russian roulette with an auto, but is too preoccupied with his mounting calamities to do more than threaten his own people.
A recently circulated African Proverb comes to mind -"Sheep spend their lives fearing the Wolf, only to be eaten by the shepherd"
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Old 21st June 2024 | 17:13
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"When Russia finally collapses, it will be as fast as last time, and that appears to be approaching at a pretty good clip. When the banks shut down the exchange is suspended, the population starts to get pretty vocal. Vlad is playing Russian roulette with an auto, but is too preoccupied with his mounting calamities to do more than threaten his own people."

But not fast enough
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Old 21st June 2024 | 17:33
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It's really happening.

"We completed the procedure of providing weapons to Ukraine and is considering providing Anti-tank missiles and artillery shells first".

As we expected, the Raybolt ATGM and 105mm, 155mm artillery shells.

Russia, what have you done.

Perhaps this is what we should have done from the beginning. These North fanatics are should not be trusted and its ours to deal with.

You have far outlived your reputation, Putin.

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Old 21st June 2024 | 18:00
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Powerfully put, that guy is another deranged Russian, that should have joined his daughter by now.

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Old 21st June 2024 | 18:01
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Not battlefield weapons per se.
Russia has already supplied DPRK with all of those advanced systems we see on TV parading in front of the Dear Leader, hypersonics etc. Kim swore to his father that he would pursue the nuclear path unflinchingly. They now want certain key ICBM missile systems and technological refinements to bring NK up to parity with China, Russia and the US. Since Kim came to Vladivostok, Putin may have been feeling uncomfortable pressure to reveal some of these in exchange for help with supplies of ammo etc..
The question has to be how does China feel about that.
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Old 21st June 2024 | 18:08
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Russia has apparently dropped another three ton bomb,it missed the building but the blast will have wrought havoc.

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Old 21st June 2024 | 18:17
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Well, that’s different, if you cannot see it, there is a body lying on the curb side with a lumberjack sized axe buried in his back! It would appear that Russian veterans are not welcomed home by everyone.

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Old 21st June 2024 | 18:22
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A Ukrainian drone attack on Russian aviation forces in Yeisk.


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