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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 31st Dec 2022, 02:41
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Another downed missile

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Old 31st Dec 2022, 04:34
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Another downed missile



​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1608930415171239936
It's interesting how the impact of drones wasn't anticipated by both powers (yeah, not a drone in the video above, but still). They have really changed the battlefield in unexpected ways.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 07:10
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
It's interesting how the impact of drones wasn't anticipated by both powers (yeah, not a drone in the video above, but still). They have really changed the battlefield in unexpected ways.
Certainly was by Ukraine, heavy use for the past 9 years of the war.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 11:46
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Russia ending the year with another major missile att k on Ukrainian ties - ten large explosions in Kyiv - Sky reporting in residential districts.

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I can foresee the likes of Gepards coming back into vogue in the west and modern equivalents being introduced across the board to defend cities and also armoured columns, maybe something along the lines of the phalanx, though the Gepard appears to effective enough with a minimum of ordnance use.

Missiles are great but are not really cost effective against cheap drones nor easy to replenish in the short term,


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Old 31st Dec 2022, 13:17
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A very subtle letter to Santa.

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Old 31st Dec 2022, 13:45
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We are definitely still not doing enough for Ukraine. I'm fed up with Putin targeting civilians. Enough is enough. It's time for western politicians to show some balls and give Ukraine what it needs to pulverize the Russian forces. And whatever the initial consequences we need to give Putin a clear message!
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 14:01
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Some of the not often seen types,

A knocked out Finish supplied Ukrainian Sisu XA-185 amphibious armoured personnel carrier.




A Canadian supplied Armoured Combat Support Vehicle (ACSV LAV) APC in Ukraine



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Old 31st Dec 2022, 16:16
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From the Kyiv Independent...
Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov warned Russian citizens in a video address on Dec. 30 that Russia's leadership is preparing a new wave of mobilization and plans to close the border within a week.

"I know for a fact that you have about one week left before you still have any choice. In early January, the Russian authorities will close the borders to men, declare martial law, and begin another wave of mobilization. Borders will also be closed in Belarus," Reznikov said, speaking in Russian.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 16:37
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Whatever the Ukrainians are asking for in weapons and munitions we need to exceed this request. Russia is getting away with war crime after war crime. It is now or never.
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Originally Posted by RHINO
Whatever the Ukrainians are asking for in weapons and munitions we need to exceed this request. Russia is getting away with war crime after war crime. It is now or never.
Well said Rhino. I'm not really a believer in new year brings new changes, BUT in this instance let's all hope that it does and quickly.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 22:10
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​​​​​​​Mutiple telegram channels report explosions in Moscow, St Petersburg, Briansk, Kursk and other russian cities. The information is not officially confirmed yet.
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Originally Posted by FUMR
Somebody suggests it could be false flag operations to drum up support for mobilization. I certainly wouldn't put it past Putin and his mob of gangsters. But hopefully it's not that, but the real beginning of the end for Putin.
Does it matter who is resposible for the alleged fireworks? Or who Russians believe to be resposible? Any set of bangs will increase the stampede to the exits.
My wish for New Year?

An end to hostilities that will satisfy Ukr, and will enable the Bear to join the civilised world in 50 years time.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 23:41
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There have been multiple explosions around here over the last hour and my pal says all over London too.
I wouldn't put much political score by them.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 23:53
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Mutiple telegram channels report explosions in Moscow, St Petersburg, Briansk, Kursk and other russian cities. The information is not officially confirmed yet.
Looool... Probably just New Year fireworks celebrations in Russia "interpreted" as explosions in major cities.
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Having had a few sherbert’s tonight to celebrate in the New Year, I bare a thought for those guys and gals standing watch in a frozen wasteland in Ukraine, under fire and constant shelling, while the rest of the world celebrates in the freedom they are fighting to protect FOR ALL OF US…

My hopes, wishes and prayers go out to you all to stay safe and warm and hope that 2023 will bring you the freedom and peace you so richly deserve, that your families will be reunited and will prosper in a free Ukraine as a member of the European Union and of NATO you so richly aim for and deserve.

Slava Ukraine.
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Get a lifeTio !
It's a Pig Circus.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Having had a few sherbert’s tonight to celebrate in the New Year, I bare a thought for those guys and gals standing watch in a frozen wasteland in Ukraine, under fire and constant shelling, while the rest of the world celebrates in the freedom they are fighting to protect FOR ALL OF US…

My hopes, wishes and prayers go out to you all to stay safe and warm and hope that 2023 will bring you the freedom and peace you so richly deserve, that your families will be reunited and will prosper in a free Ukraine as a member of the European Union and of NATO you so richly aim for and deserve.

Slava Ukraine.
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Old 1st Jan 2023, 10:08
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Originally Posted by FUMR
We are definitely still not doing enough for Ukraine. I'm fed up with Putin targeting civilians. Enough is enough. It's time for western politicians to show some balls and give Ukraine what it needs to pulverize the Russian forces. And whatever the initial consequences we need to give Putin a clear message!
An expression of frustration expressed here before many times and sadly I see no sign of things changing. Too much self interest and short termism, which leads to hard won lessons from the past being either ignored or not recognised.
I agree 100% with you; sadly those in power do not.
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Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing
Looool... Probably just New Year fireworks celebrations in Russia "interpreted" as explosions in major cities.
Indeed. It wasn't until the fireworks started where I am, 2 hours later than Moscow time, that I realised what it must have been. Pity though!
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