Scottish Defence Force?

[Wrathmonk]

would be prepared to leave all their pensions, benefits future promotions etc

I suspect there would either be a transfer of benefits to iScot or, more likely, pensions accrued would be frozen and paid by the rUK as and when it is due (in the same way that pensions are paid to expats).

As for promotions, many who have been 'passed over' in the current UK Armed Forces may see transferring across to a new ScAF, ScArmy, ScNavy as a way to re-invigorate their career and may actually move up the rank scale on transfer!

[Pontius Navigator]

I mentioned before that wee eck might also want a slice of infrastructure and systems unless he is claiming an extra Tiffy in compensation. He may have in mind 'free' use of legacy systems such as Typhoon and Type 23 training schools, places at staff colleges etc. Obviously, in time, these credits would drop off the balance sheet and he would have to pay or go it alone. Same would be true of the recruiting system. Get them in the door in Sauchiehall Street but where do you send them after that?

OTOH, would he go for quid quo pro on LFAs and bombing ranges?

[langleybaston]

I just won't have "rUK". Horrible. Like a discarded sweaty sock.

In case the Ayes have it, is there an acceptable collective noun or nouns for we, the rejected?

BRITAIN anyone?

[BEagle]

langleybaston, I agree. 'rUK' sounds too much like 'Republic of UK' as in ROK - Republic Of Korea.

'Britain' would be fine, should enough dribbling inbreds sway their way to the polls to vote 'Och aye the noo' tomorrow.

Still, at least if they do we won't have to continue pretending to enjoy listening to cat-strangling, eating sheep's innards and listening to incoherent gibberish every January 25th (or thereabouts - they can't even agree the date.... )

[ShotOne]

Gets my vote, Langley. Or even UK, come to that. And while we're at it, let's not have any nonsense on changing our flag.

[Herod]

Surely it will still be "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" Great Britain does not have to include the northern bit, and Wales is still with us.

[HaveQuick2]

If the flag does have to lose the blue bit, will the RAF roundel have to change too?

[langleybaston]

and McGonagle would need to be superceded by a doggerel-monger south of the Wall.

I could do that.

Most mornings at sparrowfart I great my beloved with a "once and for all" command performance of the new [usually scatological] rhyme or song.

Because she is voluntarily deaf-mute until about 1000 I fail to attract the applause and adulation that my efforts deserve, and, by lunchtime, I will have forgotten the ballad entirely.

[Roland Pulfrew]

HQ2

As those you have posted appear to belong to Denmark and Peru already, I suggest we just keep "our" current triservice [cough, cough] version.

As the Socialist Republic of Scotland will be the new country they can design their own.

[beamer]

Keep the jets, keep the flag and let them float away into the North Sea

[Ian Corrigible]

'What if' artwork c/o WS-Clave.



And, with apologies to my Scottish brethren, one alternative national anthem...which hopefully won't be required:



I/C

[barnstormer1968]

Ian

The Hellenic Air Force use those roundels.

[PeterGee]

Problem is, as I understand it, Great Britain is the big island of the British isles that has Scotland on it. Think just the United Kingdom, without the"of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" works ok for me.

[Avionker]

The problem actually is that The United Kingdom of Great Britain only came into being as a result of the 1707 Act of Union, when the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England joined together as a single political unit under one parliament.

If the Act is repealed then there will once again be a Kingdom of Scotland and a Kingdom of England. There will no longer be a United Kingdom.

Wales is not a Kingdom, neither is Northern Ireland.

So no kingdoms will be united anymore, will they?

Might be easier to go down the Yugoslavian route.

How about the Former United Kingdom?

[Willard Whyte]

How about the Former Commonwealth (of the) United Kingdom?

Or has that been taken?

[izod tester]

Scotland was only the latest kingdom to join the United Kingdom. Prior kingdoms subsumed within the United Kingdom were: East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Mercia, Northumbria, Sussex and Wessex

[Wander00]

Wee Eck said on TV the other night that if the result was "Yes" by just one vote, they would have won and they would be off on the path of leaving the UK. I hope if it is one vote the other way, or even a narrow majority for "No", he will be as accepting of the result, and won't be whining he wants a re-run, and it was all unfair and the BBC was against him, and.....and,........and..............

[Willard Whyte]

I'm no photoshopist, but how about a picture of Salmond's spherical head in the centre of the roundel?

And shouldn't the camouflage be tartan?

[The Helpful Stacker]

Originally Posted by avionker

The problem actually is that The United Kingdom of Great Britain only came into being as a result of the 1707 Act of Union, when the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England joined together as a single political unit under one parliament.

If the Act is repealed then there will once again be a Kingdom of Scotland and a Kingdom of England. There will no longer be a United Kingdom.

Wales is not a Kingdom, neither is Northern Ireland.

So no kingdoms will be united anymore, will they?

Not quite.

As mentioned earlier in this thread...

.....Scotland joining England and Wales didn't give rise to 'The United Kingdom', that title not appearing until the Kingdom of Ireland became part of the union in 1801 (94 years later). Given Irish independence didn't lead to 'The United Kingdom' ceasing to be I'm not sure why Scotland leaving should either, what with a union of historic Kingdoms still existing with or without them.

For added information, prior to 1801 England/Scotland/Wales were known as the 'Kingdom of Great Britain'.

[Finningley Boy]

[QUOTE]['Britain' would be fine, should enough dribbling inbreds sway their way to the polls to vote 'Och aye the noo' tomorrow.

Still, at least if they do we won't have to continue pretending to enjoy listening to cat-strangling, eating sheep's innards and listening to incoherent gibberish every January 25th (or thereabouts - they can't even agree the date..../QUOTE]

My Dear Beagle,

You strike me as Merry England's answer to the average Yes campaigner North of Hadrian's ancient ruin.

As a Scotglishman, born in Scotland of Scottish parents but living in England and having spent the bulk of my time in Ingurland, I can understand why many Scots would feel happier voting yes having read your sweeping pejorative above.

As it is, if I had the vote, I'd certainly vote "NO!"

I don't know how much of a reformed dribbling inbred that would make me in your book but I can honestly say that otherwise I do tend to agree with much of what you post on other subjects.

I also can't help thinking that your vitriolic take on the possibility of Scottish independence is evidence enough that you would hate to see the UK split nearly as much as I would.

FB