Ukraine Crisis 2014
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Just like the Democrats blaming Bush for an attack that happened 7 1/2 months after he took office, but refusing to place any blame on Clinton despite most of the intel failures happening during his time in the office, and despite the CIA director being Clinton's man*.
Its called "party before country", and has become the norm for both major parties in American politics
* George Tenet was officially appointed Director of Central Intelligence on July 11, 1997, after a unanimous confirmation vote in the Senate. While the Director of Central Intelligence has been replaced by an incoming administration since Jimmy Carter replaced DCI George H. W. Bush, Tenet served through the end of the Clinton Administration and well into the term of George W. Bush. Tenet submitted his resignation to President Bush on June 3, 2004.
Its called "party before country", and has become the norm for both major parties in American politics
* George Tenet was officially appointed Director of Central Intelligence on July 11, 1997, after a unanimous confirmation vote in the Senate. While the Director of Central Intelligence has been replaced by an incoming administration since Jimmy Carter replaced DCI George H. W. Bush, Tenet served through the end of the Clinton Administration and well into the term of George W. Bush. Tenet submitted his resignation to President Bush on June 3, 2004.
Its called "party before country", and has become the norm for both major
parties in American politics
Very good article in today's FT by John Gapper setting out the most subtle but potentially very effective way of retribution. It is here:
Punishing a few oligarchs in London is not enough - FT.com
Punishing a few oligarchs in London is not enough - FT.com
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"So Putin said, F*ck you America, and I said, here, let me hold it for you"
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I'm still amazed that SASLess and Co seem to be saying we should go to war over Ukraine
I'd be fairly sure just planting a few troops one ship and a couple of aircraft in harms way would call his bluff.
Heathrow Harry.....as Ronaldo Magnus kept saying to Jimmy Carter....."There you go again!".
I defy you to quote any of my posts where I have advocated going to War with Russia/Putin......everyone of my posts states clearly we are going to do nothing because there is nothing we can do.....and "nothing" would include going to war.
Until you can....for the umpteenth time.....quit trying to speak for me and stick to your own comments.
Don't you get weary and at least a wee bit embarrassed at being told this so many times.
Debate or keep looking stupid.....your choice.
I defy you to quote any of my posts where I have advocated going to War with Russia/Putin......everyone of my posts states clearly we are going to do nothing because there is nothing we can do.....and "nothing" would include going to war.
Until you can....for the umpteenth time.....quit trying to speak for me and stick to your own comments.
Don't you get weary and at least a wee bit embarrassed at being told this so many times.
Debate or keep looking stupid.....your choice.
Would be interesting if the trapped navy ships took a good few reporters onboard and did a live broadcast sailing out of port. No way could the russians say it was locals on the blockade ships, would they attempt to stop them I wonder and under what pretext?
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Crisis, what crisis? It is now page 17 in the Torygraph under World News, ie nothing to do with us.
Kissinger weighs in on the "Crisis".
Henry Kissinger: To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end - The Washington Post
Henry Kissinger: To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end - The Washington Post
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I suggest that anyone wanting to know a few pertinent facts about the problem could do a lot worse than visiting the Anna Raccoon website. It has certainly made me think!
The video of the Ukrainians flying out of Crimea is now on You Tube. Beriev Be-12 Mail seen at 0:35.
Beriev Be-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One of the old Ukrainian Tu-95MS Bear H is now up for sale!
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Four Ukrainian MI-8 helicopters and three planes managed to escape from a naval air base in Crimea on Tuesday (March 4) which was later allegedly taken over by Russian troops. The aircraft took off from a base in Saki in western Crimea after reportedly being offered to report to new Crimean government.They safely landed in mainland Ukraine near the town of Mykolaiv.
One of the old Ukrainian Tu-95MS Bear H is now up for sale!
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Ron Paul may have a case in re Iraq.
He does not have a case in re Afghanistan.
Libya? I have mixed feelings about that deal on a lot of levels, but Rons reductionist attitudes are about one briefing slide deep: neo-isolationism at best.
He does not have a case in re Afghanistan.
Libya? I have mixed feelings about that deal on a lot of levels, but Rons reductionist attitudes are about one briefing slide deep: neo-isolationism at best.
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Lonewolf_50, I think Ron Paul is a very good man. A very moral man and one of huge integrity. I think the US does need to take a more isolationist approach on most issues, only getting involved in things which directly threaten the US itself. If I were you I would try to be as self sufficient as a country as possible, small government, sticking to the constitution, maintain a large and powerful military for defence but generally keep out of things.
I wish my country would take such an approach!
I wish my country would take such an approach!
I think the US does need to take a more isolationist approach on most issues, only getting involved in things which directly threaten the US itself. If I were you I would try to be as self sufficient as a country as possible, small government, sticking to the constitution, maintain a large and powerful military for defence but generally keep out of things.
I wish my country would take such an approach!
Ronald R, the US of A was built as an integral part of global trade, as far back as 1607 and the Jamestown economy. Isolationism is not a valid policy position as a major international trade participant now. How one should pursue one's interests and keep trade lines safe is a matter of degree, not kind.
Where one has trade one often has interests.
I'll go no further down that rat hole. The discussion here regards the Ukraine. Since the US and Russia BOTH signed off on the security guarantee for Ukraine in 1994, both parties have an expressed interest in Ukraine's future.
Where one has trade one often has interests.
I'll go no further down that rat hole. The discussion here regards the Ukraine. Since the US and Russia BOTH signed off on the security guarantee for Ukraine in 1994, both parties have an expressed interest in Ukraine's future.
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Lonewolf_50, one can look at the 1994 security guarantee for Ukraine as simply a con to get them to give up their nukes, nothing more, nothing less.
Mil-26Man, the places you mention are on the doorstep of Russia, locations Russia is justified in being involved in. When it comes to things like ourselves in places like Iraq and Libya there is a hell of a lot less justification! Not exactly in our own back yard, no real threat to us, the latter had actually come onside in recent years, but still the west had to go and attack the place. Today both those places are far worse than before.
Mil-26Man, the places you mention are on the doorstep of Russia, locations Russia is justified in being involved in. When it comes to things like ourselves in places like Iraq and Libya there is a hell of a lot less justification! Not exactly in our own back yard, no real threat to us, the latter had actually come onside in recent years, but still the west had to go and attack the place. Today both those places are far worse than before.