Chelskiboy

The glasses may not be a problem as I understand they may have relaxed the rules a wee bit. The last I knew about Asthma was that you could not join. However if you no longer suffer from Asthma it is possible to get a certificate as many kids were diagnosed who didn't actually suffer.
To be honest if you want the most up to date information then go to the AFCO things are always changing.

Durka_Durka

Hey all, just got back from oasc and boy that was tough, now for the big wait. Just a big thanks to all of you who gave advice on my way there. When that letter hits the mat i cant tell u how nervous i am gonna be.

On a different point though, john the barman is a legend, the whole week was great fun if the most stressful 4 days of my life.

DD

mlc

If it's still the same as my day, an A4 pack signifies acceptance, a letter is a no.

Durka_Durka

thats what iv heard mlc, thick letters mean yes, containing info pack etc, thin is thanks but no thanks. christmas the season of good will??

L J R

Hard Week hey Durka???, what do you think it will be like in the 'stan as a Harrier mate at 45 degrees, or landing on NVG in a C-17 after 10 hrs flying to somewhere not nice, or doing your 11th hour over the ocean at sunrise in a Nimrod, or seventh straight day in a UCAV cabin looking at the bad guys, or lifting your seventh patrol in a Merlin in the jungle, or the fifth bracket of AAR at night re-calculating PNR/PSR, or SF insertion in your herc' knowing a single error is fatal, or your tenth month in your career in Stanley, or your seventh hour in a Tonka cockpit ascertaining rules of engagement for the fifth day in a row, and losing a mate or 10 doing one of the above, or even pushing a pen supporting all of the above!
....tust me mate, you 'aint seen hard!. Hope you really understand what the big boys are really doing these days.

Good luck to you, but the hard stuff is yet to come - trust me! (and I don't mean Cranditz) The job will of course give you all the tools to be a big boy to cope with all of the above, and you will endure some tedious times but will obtain some fantastic memories, and see some good stuff!

movadinkampa747

Thick or thin MLC?

mlc

Thick...but for the Senior Service!! (I know I've just opened the door for an awful lot of comments)

reacher

Those exact same thoughts have been going through my mind while I await my letter, while some what chastising I still want it more than anything.
AAAvn here I come!

JAG3

Good Luck Mate

Chugalug2

Well, perhaps PN, there again perhaps not. If he was referring to LJR's post I think he had it about right. It was a bit of a tirade aimed at someone who hasn't even joined yet! There seems a tendency to pick up on every little error in the posts of 'new boys' while letting the 'old boys' off scot-free. Maybe it is preserving treasured traditions of the dorm, but given the appalling state of the RAF that DD hopes to join, I for one hope that he makes a better fist of it than his seniors! The service that emerges from these threads would seem to be in terminal decline, even allowing for artistic licence, and not a word heard from the Air Staff! At least the CGS put his head above the parapet, but not a peep from our guys. Presumably having done the 'Per Ardua' to get there, they are now intent on remaining 'Ad Astra'! No doubt DD will pick up on his 'Service Writing' in due course, meantime if he is bringing with him any back-bone we need him and his ilk for a major rebuild job!

Good Luck DD!

India Papa Alpha

After all the posts, is this what you have been looking for Rogerbucks? I know you will have to discount some replies as they have been clearly uninformed, particularly about the RAF regiment!! What it boils down to is the fact that your son mustn't allow himself to be 'shoe horned' into a career that he is not happy with. Not believing what the recruiters say is a good argument as they have been told which quotas to fill and fill them they do. However, I have met a serious amount of youngsters trying to forge a career in the RAF and it was plainly obvious to see it wasn't their first choice by far, many leave and this is a serious reflection on the effectiveness of the CIO's - are they really just achieving 'bums on seats?' or are they very wise, knowing that the individual is not going to stay and they achieve said quota? Who knows? All I know is a sat all the tests at my CIO in 1979 and passed with the nigh on 99% in most, they offered me AATC and said that although mine were the highest scores they had ever had at their CIO, it was no reflection whatsoever on my trade choice. Eh?? I wanted pilot, I got pilot after telling them I was on my way to the Royal Navy CIO and thought I'd stop here first!! They couldn't change their minds quick enough, I still don't understand the mentality, even to this day.
Anyway, don't believe the bull they tell you, time is precious and before long your lad will be 'too old' for flying or even in some cases the regiment. If the CIO stick with what they say, then phone 0845 605 5555 & see someone else - don't kill the dream until you have been told it's not possible & that plan 'B' is the only option.

JAG3

Would it be wise then to only have 2 have prefrences ie. Officer Aircrew when you begin selection so they might be more tempted to offer you a place if your good enough.

TMJ

Don't be too disheartened by the sight of a thin envelope until you read it, as it could be option 3; you've met the required standard but they're waiting to see more candidates and will rank you against them. I got that back in the day and eventually got the well done letter. (Of course, the delay could also have been caused by the extra vetting needed as my families from RoI; that's what I kept telling myself at the time)

Well done on getting through to the part 2 and don't worry about finding it stressfull; compared to thingsyou go through at school it is and it's unrealistic to expect you to have dealt with more yet, let alone the sort of operational stress mentioned earlier on the thread.

Good luck!

Lukesdad

Hi guys

Can anyone give me the up to date procedure on pilot training once IOT is passed?

I understand that EFT comes next but is there a delay between finishing IOT and starting EFT or do the new Pilot Officers begin flight training straight away?

Thanks

ItchyRivers

Just out of interest are you ROI citizen and/or do you have British passport?

proudfishead

This topic is covered in several other forums but essentially:

1. IOT
2. 0 - 6 month hold (reducing)
3. Elementary Flying Training - 70hrs in Grob 115e Tutor at either RAF Wyton, RAF Cranwell or RAF Church Fenton.
4. Streaming to either: Fast Jet, Rotary Wing or Multi-Engine
5. a) FAST JET -> 0-3 month hold
100-110hrs at RAF Linton-on-Ouse flying Tucano
0-3 month hold
208 Sqn RAF Valley, flying Hawk TAMk1
19 Sqn RAF Valley, Tac-Weapons, flying Hawk TAMk1
Operational Conversion Unit
Front-Line (limited comabt ready)
b) ROTARY WING -> 2 - 6 month hold
In the region of 120 hrs on both Squirrel and Griffin aircraft at DHFS
Operational Conversion Unit
Front-Line (limited combat ready)
c) MULTI ENGINE -> 4 - 8 month hold
MELIN - Multi Engine Lead-In Course, RAF Cranwell, 30hrs T67 Firefly
70hrs King Air - RAF Cranwell
0 - 3 Months hold
Operational Conversion Unit
Front-Line

Hope this helps.

6foottanker

Alternatively:

Get chopped at METS - Supply Trg 3 months/ATC Trg 6 months/civvy life
Get chopped at DHFS - " " "
Get chopped before BHT at Linton - " " "
Get chopped at end of Linton - Go to METS/DHFS with a 3-6 month hold
Finish Linton, get wings but Mars not in Uranus - " "
Get chopped at Valley - " "
Get chopped at OCU - " "


Not bitter, just being realistic, as I'm sure many people on the forum will have experienced. And believe me, getting chopped could just be the best thing that ever happened to you in your training....... (sounds of pies being munched).....

Tourist

Christ 6ft, and I thought I was being a d1ck to the wannabies!

Lukesdad

Thanks fishhead, very comprehensive. Tell me 6 foot does the 'get chopped' mean re-assigned as a cook or re-assigned to a different aircraft type?

Antelope

Chopped = failed the course

It's then up to the Gods whether you get another type, eg chopped fast jet go rotary or it could mean end up behind a desk depending why you failed and how many pilots they need at the time.

Ant