QR
 

Tcas II, don't forget that most of the guys working in QR complaining about the company, are guys that could not get into their National Carrier.......just like me, you may presume the reasons :cool:
If EU or the Western Airlines are such "good" companies, why not go there ??????? :D

Fully agreed with Captain Krunch and 74world.

I have a news for you guys, if you don't like middle east, try Africa. Nigeria is hiring big time. I know at least ten European pilots leaving Nigeria to join Middle Eastern carrier and rest of them desperately waiting for a response on their application. As we are opening up the Nigerian market for you guys, may be you guys could leave to make some positions for people like us who would like to come to Middle East or Asia. Anyone interested PM me.

As you know most of Europe's Aviation market is on it's knees right now, I suggest you guys stop complaining and try to work together to take the company to the next level to compete with EK and EY. It is still one of the very few company who offers you with a juicy offer compare to the rest of the world.

Where from here?
 

Flaps Full and others.

Qatar Airways has come from nowhere to major player in a very few years. It has changed from a haven for guys who cannot get a job elsewhere to a a fast growing international airline. Unfortunately the quality of the management have not kept pace with this growth.
Pilots from the North African countries who have (quite rightly) not been welcomed by most airlines have established a culture that would not be accepted in any modern airline. Instructors have no instructional skill, instead they employ a fanatical knowledge of regulations to demonstrate their professionalism. They can't fly, they can't teach and they can't even operate an aircraft without alienating the rest of the crew and jeopardising the safety of those on board. Rapid and far reaching change is required in this area.

This airline has an opportunity to be a major player in the future of aviation but in order to do that there is a need to come up with some original thinking. Blindly following Emirates will only mean coming second to Emirates and probably Etihad.

There is no reason why Qatar Airways should not be the job of choice for crew wishing to work hard in the long haul market. The changes that are needed are obvious to even the most intalectualy challenged of airline executives. Instead of looking for ways to penalise the occasional sad offender who breaks the rules start looking for ways to reward the guys who just do their job.You will soon find that the bad guys will be gone courtesy of the good guys who want the airline to grow and to be proud to work for Qatar Airways.

This could be the best airline in the Middle East, somebody please just allow it to happen!

Why looking with original thinking..?:confused:

Lets start first with the basic before even thinking further: (applicable for most of the so called "major" carrier or national carrier ...as Q.R. pretend to be a major carrier...)like:

-A fair and balanced roster (especially on 320): original? i don't think so!
-A Pension plan (like most of the major carriers!): again original?i don't think so!
-Incentive (bonus,profit share..):anything original:again..no!
-Seniority reward/respect: make sense .. but again not in QR....
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QR
 

loc22550 here we go again !
Apparently you don't get it......go home mate or as suggested fayz76, try AFRICA :ok:
Don't worry, plenty of guys are standing by to take your job .....ha,ha,ha :cool:

Since you've been in the Middle East for quite some time I think, remember when around 10 years ago some Aussies tried to start a Union in EK ?????
Ask around what happened to those guys.

I am not an expert, but I would bet that UNIONS (just like in the UAE) are BAN by law. :eek:
You have great ideas, you should approach Al Baker. I'm sure he will listen to you.... :D

74world, If Your Hungry, Fine But Those Of Us With Good Resumes Would Like A Good Contract. Take Your Third World Lets Be Grateful For The Food On Our Table Mentality Back To Africa Of Whatever Third World Whoile You Came From. What Loc Is Asking For Is A Bare Minimum

QR
 

Fubaliera haven't you read the terms and conditions BEFORE joining ? :eek:

You guys are not in a position to "pressure" (dictate) what QR should be doing. Don't forget that you are an EXPAT.

QR is soooooo bad ! but you are still working for them :D

For info I am not working or living in a "third" world country but I have my reasons for wanting to come to QR.

74world..your posts become more and more patetic..

Sure you must be one of those guys who gone join straight the long haul fleet and by-passing all the hard working and underpaid guys on 320 who have seen their seniority totally ignored, and on top of that you gone tell those guys not to complain....!!!Whats next??
Sorry we don't need any lessons from people like you.

QR
 

loc22550 yes you are correct, straight to the long haul fleet so I won't have to fly with guys like you.
What "bypass" are your talking about? is that a QR rules????? I don't think so!

hopefully the HR dept at QR has learned from past experience and won't be employing guys like you in the future :ok:

You still don't get it: GO HOME :D

Thier hiring a non native english level 4 moron like you, so no, they havent learned. Dont be surprised if QR tells you your going to A300 or A320 just like they told everybody last year after they arrived after offering the 777/330.

747world, I do get your points and they are all valuable contributions to this discussion in an attempt to shed a different light on things.

There seems to be one thing you are forgetting systematically, and that is the fact that you are in a privileged position as a pilot who was hired straight on to the 330 or 777. You have been given a gift in form of a postion on those fleets which for almost 1/3 or 500 pilots in this company would be considered a career move!

This policy, combined with the current right to left seat command upgrade policy on those fleets, is a slap in the face for all A300 (yes, we still have those) and A320 pilots. This pilot group has been systematically neglected by the management. The rosters are absolute hell, the fatigue levels are through the roof, the management as well as many fellow pilots flying heavier/modern equipment turn their backs to them and they earn less money!

So please do not expect these pilots to join your QR love parade. To put it very simple, A300 and A320 fly for a different airline.

The funny thing is that it is a fact that these airplanes form the financial backbone of the QR ops. The A300 is a pure money maker and the A320, in its role as feeder airplane to the long range network as well as its deployment possibilities on short as well as medium haul routes, is an essential part in the network. Long range as well as ULR flights, in many cases, are flown for reasons of prestige and strategy (spreading the qatari flag). Economically they do not make much sense in general and the company is happy if it can see a break even on thse routes.

Yet our management elects to ignore these fleets and its pilots?? Strange..

All this is about to be changed as the future plan is to try to hire all direct entry pilots and second officers on A320/A300 only. Command upgrades will be done predominantly on these fleets as well. So, after many years, the problems mentioned above have been reckognised! This will allow pilots to pursue a more normal career progress and some of the injustices done in the past will be taken care off.

Question remains: is it not too late?

But 747 man and consorts, please stay aware that people like yourself remain, due to company policy so nothing personal, remain a thorn in the eye of many of your colleagues here. Rubbin it in will not help this.

I hope Q.R. will put "74 world" on the A-320 or even better on the A-300, he deserves it...Then maybe he will realize what we are talking about...

QR
 

I am just scared to become like you Loc22550.......Actually NO, because I will not waste my time on Prune talking about QR but I will just LEAVE the company.

Fubaliera you said "THIER", what word is that????
I guess you are a NON-ENGLISH NATIVE yourself.....ha,ha,ha :D

Qatari515 I never said that QR runs a FAIR system. But that's the way it is.
Maybe you guys should start a union and see how far you can go.....not far I guess.
Is it worth to put up with that stuff ? if the answer is NO then it might be wise to go somewhere else, there are plenty of options, unless you like to be upset everyday thinking about it. :sad:

Some of you guys are quite active members on this forum so it is a very sensitive issue BUT either you like it or not people like me will look at QR as a great opportunity to take.
Sure they could change their mind and send me to loc22550's fleet, but I am willing to take that risk :E

Hi guys,

in my case I'll be happy to join, on each his own, they are some guys for who Qataria is ok to work for, and for others not, in that case you have to take your responsibilities, coming here and complaining could be a good things if Qataria was a so real bad company but it's not, it's far to be perfect, but at least you have a job, I understand that flying on the A320 it's not easy, but my advice be patient and try to find the right company for you and please stop fighting for nothing, as I said good for you if you are happy (I mean the overall) with Qataria for those who are not I hope for you a better company.

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Life's a counterfeit and when you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's the joke, it's true
You see, it's all a show, keep them laughing as you go
Just remember the last laugh is on you

Always look on the bright side of life
And always look on the right side of life

So you have not joined yet?


In that case prepare to join the 320 as there are very few places left on 330 and 777.

QTR is not a bad place at all and if you can get used to the "rural" middle east lifestyle Doha has to offer you might find the place rather likeable.

The routes we fly are nice ( bit less on 320 but still it does have some nice routes), the money is always in the bank and if you do your job as per company rules and regs nobody will ever bother you!

The injustices between different fleets and the incompetence of the flight ops management (generalised, some good individuals present) as well as the Arabic/indian approach towards HR are things you will have to learn to live with!

Good luck..

Qatari515 says it very nice. However it is very frustrating, when you come here prepared to give yourself 100% to the company, that they keep doing everything they can to make your life difficult.

One example is, and its happens all the time, you ask for 3 days off before your leave. And they give 2 days off a stanby and them your leave.

And now it seems like we can not have two blind days in row anymore. Now we are given stanbys for a couple of hours between flights.

74world you are far from the first to have this attitude before you join. But lets see after you have been here one year.

Qatar Inteview
 

Hello to everyone. Can someone please tell me what's going on on a qatar interview for captain recently? Any info at all would be really appreciated!
Thanks

Try posting again in the middle east forum. There is also a wealth of info already posted there through the search function.

This might be nice to know for an upcoming interview


"Qatar Airways is poised to dramatically increase its services to German cities as it continues to expand across Europe.
The carrier will increase the number of flights between Doha and Munich from daily to 11 flights a week on March 9.
And towards the end of the month, its Frankfurt route will be upgraded from 10 to 13 flights a week.
On Sunday, Qatar Airways also began flights to Stuttgart as the total number of flights between Qatar and Germany is set to rise from 24 to 34 flights a week."