Emirates Application 2022
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Sorry about the thread creep but I can't help noticing that 20 years ago people were leaving the likes of Swiss, Monarch, Sabena and Virgin Atlantic to join Emirates. Now there is a serious discussion about Ryanair being a better option than EK! Where will it be in the next 20, or even 10, years?
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Xulu makes many valid points. However, numerous ex-Ek drivers have in fact left the sandpit to try the euro loco green grass life for that 50% cut.
The majority of them have regretted the move and can’t get back to the sandbox. They either end up rotting RHS in VS, BA, LH etc for 20 having left their EK command, or have in fact left commercial aviation all together. Food for thought.
As has always been quoted here, the ME expat life is a 10+ year commitment. To maximize the benefits, take the accommodation allowance and sweat out the command. If you can’t commit to both of those, you’re prob best staying home in the EU. Don’t come to the ME for quick cash.
The majority of them have regretted the move and can’t get back to the sandbox. They either end up rotting RHS in VS, BA, LH etc for 20 having left their EK command, or have in fact left commercial aviation all together. Food for thought.
As has always been quoted here, the ME expat life is a 10+ year commitment. To maximize the benefits, take the accommodation allowance and sweat out the command. If you can’t commit to both of those, you’re prob best staying home in the EU. Don’t come to the ME for quick cash.
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Never felt better
Food for thought.
I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.
All I can say is I’ve never felt better.
The fatigue at EK is real… years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.
After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where I’ve been or how my roster is.
I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.
All I can say is I’ve never felt better.
The fatigue at EK is real… years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.
After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where I’ve been or how my roster is.
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Food for thought.
I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.
All I can say is I’ve never felt better.
The fatigue at EK is real… years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.
After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where I’ve been or how my roster is.
I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.
All I can say is I’ve never felt better.
The fatigue at EK is real… years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.
After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where I’ve been or how my roster is.
The fatigue thing was an eye opener for me after leaving (voluntarily)!
Took me more than 5 months to get back into a normal sleeping rhythm and more than a year to actually feel normal again.
But one will realise only after leaving the hamster wheel - I heard that from a couple of ex EK colleagues, with the same experience
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Sums it up pretty nicely… Like the „fart smell” 😂
The fatigue thing was an eye opener for me after leaving (voluntarily)!
Took me more the 5 months to get back into a normal sleeping rhythm and more than a year to actually feel normal again.
But one will realise only after leaving the hamster wheel - I heard that from a couple of ex EK colleagues, with the same experience
The fatigue thing was an eye opener for me after leaving (voluntarily)!
Took me more the 5 months to get back into a normal sleeping rhythm and more than a year to actually feel normal again.
But one will realise only after leaving the hamster wheel - I heard that from a couple of ex EK colleagues, with the same experience
I live a life like never before and I am a happy human again
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Dear ladies and gentleman, does anyone know what are the "several" stages after you finish the recruitment in Dubai?
A while ago I passed both days in Dubai only to receive a warm "you were not selected" email 3 weeks later... (I know I passed in Dubai because I was told on the phone that I did well on compass as well as simulator and the doctor told me my medical is issued before I left the room)...
For the guys still wasting time (sorry), the latest pilot jobs prep is more than enough... combined with what EK sends you for the simulator...
A while ago I passed both days in Dubai only to receive a warm "you were not selected" email 3 weeks later... (I know I passed in Dubai because I was told on the phone that I did well on compass as well as simulator and the doctor told me my medical is issued before I left the room)...
For the guys still wasting time (sorry), the latest pilot jobs prep is more than enough... combined with what EK sends you for the simulator...
Anyway, I take it as life preventing me of making a bad move. I know it is hard but there is life after EK assesment.
Cheers,
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It happened with me as well. About 15 days after assessment got an email saying I was unsuccessful. After some reasearch with recruiters, I was told that once your application leaves pilot selection with a label "recomended for hire", it goes to a higher management level that can dump you for whatever reason and you will never know why it happened.
Anyway, I take it as life preventing me of making a bad move. I know it is hard but there is life after EK assesment.
Cheers,
Anyway, I take it as life preventing me of making a bad move. I know it is hard but there is life after EK assesment.
Cheers,
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How long do I have after the receiving the "you have a digital assessment" email to actually click to start the HireVue? Tried to use search function but this thread is entertaining to say the least.
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Would anyone be willing to share how the provident fund works? I’m aware of the 5% and 12%. But over say 7 years, if you remain an FO, that’s not a huge sum (before any gains in investment of course, which aren’t guaranteed). Basically what I’m asking is, am I way off here or is it not going to be enough to fund a retirement and would likely need a private pension also?
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Would anyone be willing to share how the provident fund works? I’m aware of the 5% and 12%. But over say 7 years, if you remain an FO, that’s not a huge sum (before any gains in investment of course, which aren’t guaranteed). Basically what I’m asking is, am I way off here or is it not going to be enough to fund a retirement and would likely need a private pension also?
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My only other main concern is the negative view of the training department and how it appears to be more continuous checking, ultimately true or just hyperbole?
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Are saying this due to a YouTube video that was put up very recently?
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After a sim session if asked if one would like to practice anything, the standard answer is "No thank you" (if you make a mistake, it can bite you hard). Just get out of there asap and enjoy the "6 months extension" of your contract. If you are removed from roster due to partial below par performance, the pre
ssure is on and the fun begins. Everyone has multiple examples of people they know who were unfortunate. I have never seen a colleague completely breaking down in tears in the sim until now. I felt really sorry for the guy.
Luckily we are mercenaries, we are there for ourselves. These things will never happen to me because I am an ace pilot and the more colleagues being sent away, the faster I can achieve my goals
If a TRE is called by training department to change the wording on a check form something is really wrong.
Halas.
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It is true. In practice in hindsight the trainers are ok if your knowledge, skills and attitude are upto par. But you just don't know before a sim what to expect. Consequences can be huge.
After a sim session if asked if one would like to practice anything, the standard answer is "No thank you" (if you make a mistake, it can bite you hard). Just get out of there asap and enjoy the "6 months extension" of your contract. If you are removed from roster due to partial below par performance, the pre
ssure is on and the fun begins. Everyone has multiple examples of people they know who were unfortunate. I have never seen a colleague completely breaking down in tears in the sim until now. I felt really sorry for the guy.
Luckily we are mercenaries, we are there for ourselves. These things will never happen to me because I am an ace pilot and the more colleagues being sent away, the faster I can achieve my goals
If a TRE is called by training department to change the wording on a check form something is really wrong.
Halas.
After a sim session if asked if one would like to practice anything, the standard answer is "No thank you" (if you make a mistake, it can bite you hard). Just get out of there asap and enjoy the "6 months extension" of your contract. If you are removed from roster due to partial below par performance, the pre
ssure is on and the fun begins. Everyone has multiple examples of people they know who were unfortunate. I have never seen a colleague completely breaking down in tears in the sim until now. I felt really sorry for the guy.
Luckily we are mercenaries, we are there for ourselves. These things will never happen to me because I am an ace pilot and the more colleagues being sent away, the faster I can achieve my goals
If a TRE is called by training department to change the wording on a check form something is really wrong.
Halas.
it has happened that you pass day one and the next morning on day 2 you failed because the training manager didn’t like the wording or had a different opinion on the written details
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I'm coming from a European carrier with, what I'd say is a fairly robust but relaxed training and checking environment and have never had any issues in the SIM but it's definitely in the back of my mind regarding the job. Also going from LHS to the right is a glaring change.
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Did I mention your ride to work will smell of farts garlic and onions, and he’s just as tired as you are at 5.57am.
Don’t believe all the horror stories in the Sim, 12 years there and never had an issue
Don’t believe all the horror stories in the Sim, 12 years there and never had an issue