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Old 11th Sep 2023, 11:01
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Sorry about the thread creep but I can't help noticing that 20 years ago people were leaving the likes of Swiss, Monarch, Sabena and Virgin Atlantic to join Emirates. Now there is a serious discussion about Ryanair being a better option than EK! Where will it be in the next 20, or even 10, years?

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Old 11th Sep 2023, 23:55
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Xulu makes many valid points. However, numerous ex-Ek drivers have in fact left the sandpit to try the euro loco green grass life for that 50% cut.

The majority of them have regretted the move and canít get back to the sandbox. They either end up rotting RHS in VS, BA, LH etc for 20 having left their EK command, or have in fact left commercial aviation all together. Food for thought.

As has always been quoted here, the ME expat life is a 10+ year commitment. To maximize the benefits, take the accommodation allowance and sweat out the command. If you canít commit to both of those, youíre prob best staying home in the EU. Donít come to the ME for quick cash.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 07:21
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Never felt better

Food for thought.

I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.

All I can say is Iíve never felt better.

The fatigue at EK is realÖ years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.

After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where Iíve been or how my roster is.





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Old 12th Sep 2023, 15:21
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Originally Posted by VC10L1011
Food for thought.

I spent almost 12 years at EK, I left voluntarily last October.

All I can say is Iíve never felt better.

The fatigue at EK is realÖ years and years of 0100 reports on the 777 made me a miserable and unpleasant person to be around.

After a year of sleeping in my own bed, very limited night flying I finally feel refreshed, the dark circles under my eyes have finally gone I even get to drive to and from work in my own clean, non fart smelling car, nor do I have to tell anyone where I live, where Iíve been or how my roster is.
Sums it up pretty nicelyÖ Like the Ąfart smellĒ 😂

The fatigue thing was an eye opener for me after leaving (voluntarily)!

Took me more than 5 months to get back into a normal sleeping rhythm and more than a year to actually feel normal again.

But one will realise only after leaving the hamster wheel - I heard that from a couple of ex EK colleagues, with the same experience

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Old 12th Sep 2023, 15:45
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Originally Posted by FQT2YS
Sums it up pretty nicelyÖ Like the Ąfart smellĒ 😂

The fatigue thing was an eye opener for me after leaving (voluntarily)!

Took me more the 5 months to get back into a normal sleeping rhythm and more than a year to actually feel normal again.

But one will realise only after leaving the hamster wheel - I heard that from a couple of ex EK colleagues, with the same experience
did not leave as a voluntier but Happy been able to secure a job after Covid
I live a life like never before and I am a happy human again

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Old 12th Sep 2023, 18:04
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Originally Posted by climatelockdown
Dear ladies and gentleman, does anyone know what are the "several" stages after you finish the recruitment in Dubai?
A while ago I passed both days in Dubai only to receive a warm "you were not selected" email 3 weeks later... (I know I passed in Dubai because I was told on the phone that I did well on compass as well as simulator and the doctor told me my medical is issued before I left the room)...

For the guys still wasting time (sorry), the latest pilot jobs prep is more than enough... combined with what EK sends you for the simulator...
It happened with me as well. About 15 days after assessment got an email saying I was unsuccessful. After some reasearch with recruiters, I was told that once your application leaves pilot selection with a label "recomended for hire", it goes to a higher management level that can dump you for whatever reason and you will never know why it happened.

Anyway, I take it as life preventing me of making a bad move. I know it is hard but there is life after EK assesment.

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Old 13th Sep 2023, 03:55
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Thanks Cactus. Yes, universe works in mysterious ways
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Originally Posted by CACTUS 25
It happened with me as well. About 15 days after assessment got an email saying I was unsuccessful. After some reasearch with recruiters, I was told that once your application leaves pilot selection with a label "recomended for hire", it goes to a higher management level that can dump you for whatever reason and you will never know why it happened.

Anyway, I take it as life preventing me of making a bad move. I know it is hard but there is life after EK assesment.

Cheers,
Correct. Not very common but can happen. Well done on passing the selection days!
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 20:07
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Application under review

Application status says under review after 9 months now.. anybody else facing same? Iím current on B737 with 3100 hrs approx
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 02:44
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How long do I have after the receiving the "you have a digital assessment" email to actually click to start the HireVue? Tried to use search function but this thread is entertaining to say the least.
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Would anyone be willing to share how the provident fund works? I’m aware of the 5% and 12%. But over say 7 years, if you remain an FO, that’s not a huge sum (before any gains in investment of course, which aren’t guaranteed). Basically what I’m asking is, am I way off here or is it not going to be enough to fund a retirement and would likely need a private pension also?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 16:09
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Originally Posted by 5strypes
Would anyone be willing to share how the provident fund works? Iím aware of the 5% and 12%. But over say 7 years, if you remain an FO, thatís not a huge sum (before any gains in investment of course, which arenít guaranteed). Basically what Iím asking is, am I way off here or is it not going to be enough to fund a retirement and would likely need a private pension also?
You are not way off. Without some spectacular returns the provident fund won't be enough to fund retirement. The range of funds you can invest in is small and conservative so growth tends to be on the low side. You need to have some other investments as well.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:06
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie
You are not way off. Without some spectacular returns the provident fund won't be enough to fund retirement. The range of funds you can invest in is small and conservative so growth tends to be on the low side. You need to have some other investments as well.
Thank you, that's a noteworthy point for me when calculating the total package so I appreciate the honesty.

My only other main concern is the negative view of the training department and how it appears to be more continuous checking, ultimately true or just hyperbole?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:18
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Originally Posted by 5strypes
Thank you, that's a noteworthy point for me when calculating the total package so I appreciate the honesty.

My only other main concern is the negative view of the training department and how it appears to be more continuous checking, ultimately true or just hyperbole?
Are saying this due to a YouTube video that was put up very recently?
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Old 19th Sep 2023, 06:13
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Originally Posted by A320LGW
Are saying this due to a YouTube video that was put up very recently?
Honestly in part yes, but it has been reinforced by anecdotal posts here. Is it partially true?
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Old 19th Sep 2023, 10:34
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Originally Posted by 5strypes
Honestly in part yes, but it has been reinforced by anecdotal posts here. Is it partially true?
It is true. In practice in hindsight the trainers are ok if your knowledge, skills and attitude are upto par. But you just don't know before a sim what to expect. Consequences can be huge.
After a sim session if asked if one would like to practice anything, the standard answer is "No thank you" (if you make a mistake, it can bite you hard). Just get out of there asap and enjoy the "6 months extension" of your contract. If you are removed from roster due to partial below par performance, the pre
ssure is on and the fun begins. Everyone has multiple examples of people they know who were unfortunate. I have never seen a colleague completely breaking down in tears in the sim until now. I felt really sorry for the guy.
Luckily we are mercenaries, we are there for ourselves. These things will never happen to me because I am an ace pilot and the more colleagues being sent away, the faster I can achieve my goals

​​​​​If a TRE is called by training department to change the wording on a check form something is really wrong.
Halas.




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Old 19th Sep 2023, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Shazeem
It is true. In practice in hindsight the trainers are ok if your knowledge, skills and attitude are upto par. But you just don't know before a sim what to expect. Consequences can be huge.
After a sim session if asked if one would like to practice anything, the standard answer is "No thank you" (if you make a mistake, it can bite you hard). Just get out of there asap and enjoy the "6 months extension" of your contract. If you are removed from roster due to partial below par performance, the pre
ssure is on and the fun begins. Everyone has multiple examples of people they know who were unfortunate. I have never seen a colleague completely breaking down in tears in the sim until now. I felt really sorry for the guy.
Luckily we are mercenaries, we are there for ourselves. These things will never happen to me because I am an ace pilot and the more colleagues being sent away, the faster I can achieve my goals

​​​​​If a TRE is called by training department to change the wording on a check form something is really wrong.
Halas.




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not to mention a training manager can overturn the result of your check given by a trainer

it has happened that you pass day one and the next morning on day 2 you failed because the training manager didnít like the wording or had a different opinion on the written details

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Old 19th Sep 2023, 14:24
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Originally Posted by 5strypes
Honestly in part yes, but it has been reinforced by anecdotal posts here. Is it partially true?
I just watched that video.. itís fairly accurate/
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I just watched that video.. itís fairly accurate/
I'm coming from a European carrier with, what I'd say is a fairly robust but relaxed training and checking environment and have never had any issues in the SIM but it's definitely in the back of my mind regarding the job. Also going from LHS to the right is a glaring change.
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Did I mention your ride to work will smell of farts garlic and onions, and heís just as tired as you are at 5.57am.

Donít believe all the horror stories in the Sim, 12 years there and never had an issue
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