Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

Emirates Application 2022

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

Emirates Application 2022

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 30th Dec 2022, 14:30
  #521 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: stuttgart
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Nineshsimbers
dear all,

take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.

I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.

What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.

Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
maybe you asked those 1800 redundant once which is nearly 40% of those having been there before COV
Including those few who rejoined under a different worse contract than before - do you really think they are happy to be there. plus some off those who survived the incredible management skills would say they are happy to be there - they are happy to have a job - for sure not happy with EK

But your previous post says a lot
flyTheBigFatLady is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2022, 08:10
  #522 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Doctor's waiting room
Posts: 769
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Nineshsimbers
dear all,

take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.

I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.

What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.

Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
I can assure you what I posted was not plucked from thin air and is the current HR policy. As for me, I am not negative but merely highlighting factual information and what I think is one of the biggest changes to HR policy since I joined many years ago, yet to those joining, it will be something they will be unaware of until they sign the contract. In short, long-term sickness now drastically limits your prospects of remaining employed, should you have another period or periods of extended time off due to sickness in the future. This was not the case prior to COVID.

Personally, I don't regret coming to EK since at the time it was by far the best choice for me and EK was not my first ex-pat gig nor my first time working for the Arabs. Yet, EK has changed significantly in my time here. Whilst many will argue that is the case at many airlines, I would be bold enough to declare that the rate of negative change at EK over the years has been far more pronounced than compared to what I hear from friends at other large carriers.

EK is and always been nothing different than a contract position, with the company disposing of you if they need to and on their terms with the employee having little recourse against such a decision. Setting down roots in the UAE such as buying property and settling kids into schools come with a significant risk, which is that the carpet could be pulled under your feet at anytime. No one intends to have long term sickness nor make an error on the line that gets them into hot water and you always have to be prepared to leave at short notice. Don't come here looking for a stable career but if you are happy with an ex-pat job that is relatively insecure, then you can certainly do a lot worse. As far as I see it, I get paid more than I would back at home and the extra money is compensation for the job insecurity.
Emma Royds is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2022, 11:32
  #523 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: World
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by hamil
Just a question: if a candidate fails his assessment for a pilot or SFI position, can he apply again in the future or EK puts him on a blacklist?
Tkanks!
6 months, as far as I know, but I'm not sure if it applies for pilots or everyone... SFI, cabin crew, etc.
Curtiss Commando is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2022, 15:01
  #524 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: cairo
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hirvue digital interview

Dears any insights on the hirevue digital interview?
what type of questions? Thanks
Egyptianpilot is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2023, 05:55
  #525 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Internet
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ok so now all the potential applicants (who understand English) will now pretend they’ve not read any of that because of course it can’t be true! However it will come back to haunt them later when something goes wrong!
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!

Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!

ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
Pif Paf is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2023, 15:51
  #526 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Meydan South 5 Star Villas
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They think because there’s some firework on the burj and a few drones flying around in the shape of a sheikh that it translates to a stable long term career as a pilot . Hahahahaha.

emirates will always be desperate for pilots. They will always bring in muppets who don’t know what they are landing themselves into .

nimrodjoe is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2023, 16:29
  #527 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Meydan South 5 Star Villas
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Doesn’t it say it all when emirates made thousands redundant - then wouldn’t let most back to the company - Brian was laughing about this in a recent wash up not sure why he finds it funny. It will never get better working in the Middle East - you are always just a slave to the system ,just another white prick below the Arab status

just waiting for some Australian to tell me it’s “their train set” ..favorite phase here
nimrodjoe is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2023, 18:34
  #528 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dubai Hills
Age: 38
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Pif Paf
Ok so now all the potential applicants (who understand English) will now pretend they’ve not read any of that because of course it can’t be true! However it will come back to haunt them later when something goes wrong!
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!

Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!

ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
The pandemic forced the company to show their true colours and they showed how they value their employees. That should have been no surprise. They just applied the existing practices to many pilots simultaneously.

If they will give you the 4 half months salary, it will be because it will be beneficial to themselves (i.e. pilot shortages etc). Don't fool yourself. Another thing:
A loser in Australia or UK is still a loser in Dubai. Where you live and the equipment you work with.. it's not gonna change a thing. Livin' the dream on IG and FB!

Just had my 2nd and 1st topbid. Almost got my days in a row but luckily there is a night turnaround manually put in the middle of the days.



​​



​​​​​
​​​
Shazeem is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2023, 18:59
  #529 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Fibbers
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nimrodjoe

just waiting for some Australian to tell me it’s “their train set” ..favorite phase here
Australians will feel quite at home in Dubai, we are talking about a pilot population who all got sacked overnight because of Rupert Murdoch. We are talking about a country that treats their natives like a different species and deports migrants to the Christmas tree islands. For them the Middle East is completely normal. The 'Rupert generation' . to$$ers, even the locals take the piss your benefit not mine mateeeeeeeee
McToryMug is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2023, 08:42
  #530 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: stuttgart
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=Shazeem;11357879]The pandemic forced the company to show their true colours and they showed how they value their employees. That should have been no surprise. They just applied the existing practices to many pilots

​​​​​
​​​[/QUOTE

you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
flyTheBigFatLady is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2023, 08:49
  #531 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: stuttgart
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nimrodjoe

of course people are scared to speak out here , it’s you against the matrix and you will always lose that.

!
unless your name is Neo and your are the chosen one.
flyTheBigFatLady is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2023, 08:56
  #532 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: up north
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=flyTheBigFatLady;11358677]
Originally Posted by Shazeem
The pandemic forced the company to show their true colours and they showed how they value their employees. That should have been no surprise. They just applied the existing practices to many pilots

​​​​​
​​​[/QUOTE

you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
Just spoke with a friend who went back recently, he said all is very relaxed there, but they are in desperate need of people.
They realised it was a mistake to sack that amount of pilots, but obviously no one will ever admit it.
Giuff is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2023, 14:14
  #533 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: stuttgart
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=Giuff;11358686]
Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady

Just spoke with a friend who went back recently, he said all is very relaxed there, but they are in desperate need of people.
They realised it was a mistake to sack that amount of pilots, but obviously no one will ever admit it.
Heard the same - nobody will ever admit - face loosing story - still I know a endless number of people who have not heard a word since putting the rejoin application in.

it will always stay a secret how they can justify such large amounts of money spend for stupidity, arrogance and being unable to fix wrong decisions being made - that alone is worth a biography of the success of stupid

this w….ck…. are just in a parallel univers
flyTheBigFatLady is offline  
Old 6th Jan 2023, 18:31
  #534 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Latvia
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
A few miserable guys! Brilliant. If you had a choice between an airline with a recognized union and employment laws and a contract with some meaning would you really move to the Middle East where you are the property of the state . No.

of course people are scared to speak out here , it’s you against the matrix and you will always lose that.

it’s a sheikhdom a dictatorship and you are here in ek to work , and work hard ! Make no mistake it ain’t no holiday. if your sick you will be slung out like a bag of ****e !
Do you think that if a company in EU bankrupts, fires you or don't pay you will you find justice?
Maybe if this company is in the country of you residence and after costly trials which will last for years and maybe you won't get any cash in the end
2 things matter. Cash and roster
Even in Europe managers who should be behind bars are still on business
ctacik is offline  
Old 7th Jan 2023, 07:10
  #535 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Turkey
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could anyone from Flydubai tell the number of flight(leg) the flew average? And Off days in a month
PointOfNoReturn is offline  
Old 7th Jan 2023, 15:40
  #536 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Meydan South 5 Star Villas
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rumors are Brian’s leaving in October - good riddance
nimrodjoe is offline  
Old 7th Jan 2023, 16:52
  #537 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UAE
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Rumors are Brian’s leaving in October - good riddance
Do you seriously think the next one will be any better?
BigGeordie is offline  
Old 7th Jan 2023, 19:16
  #538 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: stuttgart
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Doesn’t it say it all when emirates made thousands redundant - then wouldn’t let most back to the company - Brian was laughing about this in a recent wash up not sure why he finds it funny
at least the managements have their fun over the tragic fate of their employees.
flyTheBigFatLady is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2023, 15:53
  #539 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Rome
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've been reading a lot about this "desperate need of pilots" of Emirates.

But it's been 3 months that I've recorded the interview video, and not a single word since there...
AbruzziPilot is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2023, 17:06
  #540 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by AbruzziPilot
I've been reading a lot about this "desperate need of pilots" of Emirates.

But it's been 3 months that I've recorded the interview video, and not a single word since there...
They are desperate, but its a safety critical role and they dont just take anybody who interviews. it's a selection process .
PPRuNeUser0216 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.