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dear all,
take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.
I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.
What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.
Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.
I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.
What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.
Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
Including those few who rejoined under a different worse contract than before - do you really think they are happy to be there. plus some off those who survived the incredible management skills would say they are happy to be there - they are happy to have a job - for sure not happy with EK
But your previous post says a lot
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dear all,
take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.
I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.
What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.
Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
take a lot of the stuff said above with a pinch of salt.
I think we by now can say that as pilots we complain an awful lot. Which is alright, we are all entitled to have an opinion. However what has been said above should not put you off from applying to the job. Most are happy at EK, but those types don’t come here and share their thoughts, it’s only the negative, miserable ones that you see here and it’s not fair to make a judgement.
What has been said above is not representative. There are some unfortunate cases which have been mentioned above, some of them I know which are true, but don’t let it detract you from pursuing a career with the company. EK has thousands of pilots and here we have a few miserable folks, don’t let it bother you.
Keep in mind, every airline/country has its pros and cons. EK and DXB is not perfect, know what you’re signing up to. Do your own research and speak to a mix of people there.
Personally, I don't regret coming to EK since at the time it was by far the best choice for me and EK was not my first ex-pat gig nor my first time working for the Arabs. Yet, EK has changed significantly in my time here. Whilst many will argue that is the case at many airlines, I would be bold enough to declare that the rate of negative change at EK over the years has been far more pronounced than compared to what I hear from friends at other large carriers.
EK is and always been nothing different than a contract position, with the company disposing of you if they need to and on their terms with the employee having little recourse against such a decision. Setting down roots in the UAE such as buying property and settling kids into schools come with a significant risk, which is that the carpet could be pulled under your feet at anytime. No one intends to have long term sickness nor make an error on the line that gets them into hot water and you always have to be prepared to leave at short notice. Don't come here looking for a stable career but if you are happy with an ex-pat job that is relatively insecure, then you can certainly do a lot worse. As far as I see it, I get paid more than I would back at home and the extra money is compensation for the job insecurity.
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Ok so now all the potential applicants (who understand English) will now pretend they’ve not read any of that because of course it can’t be true! However it will come back to haunt them later when something goes wrong!
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!
Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!
ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!
Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!
ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
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They think because there’s some firework on the burj and a few drones flying around in the shape of a sheikh that it translates to a stable long term career as a pilot . Hahahahaha.
emirates will always be desperate for pilots. They will always bring in muppets who don’t know what they are landing themselves into .
emirates will always be desperate for pilots. They will always bring in muppets who don’t know what they are landing themselves into .
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Doesn’t it say it all when emirates made thousands redundant - then wouldn’t let most back to the company - Brian was laughing about this in a recent wash up not sure why he finds it funny. It will never get better working in the Middle East - you are always just a slave to the system ,just another white prick below the Arab status
just waiting for some Australian to tell me it’s “their train set” ..favorite phase here
just waiting for some Australian to tell me it’s “their train set” ..favorite phase here
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Ok so now all the potential applicants (who understand English) will now pretend they’ve not read any of that because of course it can’t be true! However it will come back to haunt them later when something goes wrong!
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!
Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!
ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
Those that don’t understand English (many more than you would expect) will continue to ask about the interview! There will be apparent shock (even though they’d been warned);when they have a long term injury!
Maybe you should all ask about it during the interview process!
ps even after record profits after 2 years I’m still waiting for my 4 months of half salary to returned ! That should be a warning as well. They can do what they want with no consequences!
(Recently when asked if salary would be returned a Flt ops management pilot said he was irritated by people constantly asking him, he gave no answer and didn’t even say they’d ask upper management! Just about sums Flt ops management up really!)
If they will give you the 4 half months salary, it will be because it will be beneficial to themselves (i.e. pilot shortages etc). Don't fool yourself. Another thing:
A loser in Australia or UK is still a loser in Dubai. Where you live and the equipment you work with.. it's not gonna change a thing. Livin' the dream on IG and FB!
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Australians will feel quite at home in Dubai, we are talking about a pilot population who all got sacked overnight because of Rupert Murdoch. We are talking about a country that treats their natives like a different species and deports migrants to the Christmas tree islands. For them the Middle East is completely normal. The 'Rupert generation' . to$$ers, even the locals take the piss your benefit not mine mateeeeeeeee
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[QUOTE=Shazeem;11357879]The pandemic forced the company to show their true colours and they showed how they value their employees. That should have been no surprise. They just applied the existing practices to many pilots
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you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
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you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
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[QUOTE=flyTheBigFatLady;11358677]
Just spoke with a friend who went back recently, he said all is very relaxed there, but they are in desperate need of people.
They realised it was a mistake to sack that amount of pilots, but obviously no one will ever admit it.
The pandemic forced the company to show their true colours and they showed how they value their employees. That should have been no surprise. They just applied the existing practices to many pilots
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you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
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you are Right by saying they showed their true face. On the other it’s incorrect that they have been forced.
if you add the numbers of getting rid of 1800 pilots and rehire some of them, you will see that it would have been possible to keep all of them with a reduced salary between 18 to 24 month. That would have been the same price tag, but with one advantage. They would not need to train new ones to the standards the old ones have been already.
the true face of EK costed many many people and families their entire base of existence.
They realised it was a mistake to sack that amount of pilots, but obviously no one will ever admit it.
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Heard the same - nobody will ever admit - face loosing story - still I know a endless number of people who have not heard a word since putting the rejoin application in.
it will always stay a secret how they can justify such large amounts of money spend for stupidity, arrogance and being unable to fix wrong decisions being made - that alone is worth a biography of the success of stupid
this w….ck…. are just in a parallel univers
it will always stay a secret how they can justify such large amounts of money spend for stupidity, arrogance and being unable to fix wrong decisions being made - that alone is worth a biography of the success of stupid
this w….ck…. are just in a parallel univers
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A few miserable guys! Brilliant. If you had a choice between an airline with a recognized union and employment laws and a contract with some meaning would you really move to the Middle East where you are the property of the state . No.
of course people are scared to speak out here , it’s you against the matrix and you will always lose that.
it’s a sheikhdom a dictatorship and you are here in ek to work , and work hard ! Make no mistake it ain’t no holiday. if your sick you will be slung out like a bag of ****e !
of course people are scared to speak out here , it’s you against the matrix and you will always lose that.
it’s a sheikhdom a dictatorship and you are here in ek to work , and work hard ! Make no mistake it ain’t no holiday. if your sick you will be slung out like a bag of ****e !
Maybe if this company is in the country of you residence and after costly trials which will last for years and maybe you won't get any cash in the end
2 things matter. Cash and roster
Even in Europe managers who should be behind bars are still on business
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I've been reading a lot about this "desperate need of pilots" of Emirates.
But it's been 3 months that I've recorded the interview video, and not a single word since there...
But it's been 3 months that I've recorded the interview video, and not a single word since there...
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They are desperate, but its a safety critical role and they dont just take anybody who interviews. it's a selection process .