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Old 2nd Feb 2023, 06:20
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Guys have any of you done a bit of bush flying ?
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Old 2nd Feb 2023, 11:28
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Hi

i had applied for the first officer position on 9th of December 2022, application says , “registration under review”, any idea how much time does it take from here?

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Old 2nd Feb 2023, 13:03
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Guys have any of you done a bit of bush flying ?
Are you trying to gauge the average type of experience of potential applicants? Just curious....

And yes, I have. Twotter. Although different people define 'bush flying' differently......does 'no runways involved, mud up to your axles, runways curving through the trees, rivers across the strip, animals everywhere, zero traction surface' count?
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Old 3rd Feb 2023, 05:41
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Originally Posted by Shrike200

..does 'no runways involved, mud up to your axles, runways curving through the trees, rivers across the strip, animals everywhere, zero traction surface' count?
no maaayte,that doesn’t count.
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Old 3rd Feb 2023, 17:53
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Man it’s a sad life, huh? Counting every hour towards the minimum of 2000 above 20ton and now about to finally get my atpl, only to have those minimums changed to Airbus/Boeing only. Life sucks
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 06:15
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I might have above normal blood pressure. Undecided as yet. How is this dealt with in the medical?
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 10:21
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Originally Posted by PegasusBoi
Man it’s a sad life, huh? Counting every hour towards the minimum of 2000 above 20ton and now about to finally get my atpl, only to have those minimums changed to Airbus/Boeing only. Life sucks

this is why EK is absolutely unpredictable
you fly 3000hr on a type than you may be transfered to a another type and suddenly you will find yourself back to square one, even the manuals have stated differently. All that happend to pilots back in the days of the A310 and later with all 330/340 pilots - that’s EK as it always was - at its best
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 14:20
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Originally Posted by PegasusBoi
Man it’s a sad life, huh? Counting every hour towards the minimum of 2000 above 20ton and now about to finally get my atpl, only to have those minimums changed to Airbus/Boeing only. Life sucks
Kids these days huh, not even 2,000hrs TT, a CPL, and a sense of entitlement.
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 15:23
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Entitled king lord knight

Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
Kids these days huh, not even 2,000hrs TT, a CPL, and a sense of entitlement.
yes my dude, big entitlement! All because I express sentiments towards something?

Im already past that TT, and that means ****e. How many times have I flown with guys in their 10-20k+ hours who don’t know anything about energy management, jerk the controls, can’t land on centerline? How many times have I carried my sim partner on my back, with his approval only happening because of my extensive support? And that’s just facts, words I heard from examiner. Not once, not twice

Flying is just like driving. U get those “kids” who start driving around, no problems at all, and u get those who, no matter how many years they’ve been driving, will make u feel like dying when on the passenger seat.

As for CPL only, that’s just dumb. Atp is just another checkride.
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 18:42
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Well...

+8000hs here, +5000 on the 737, +2500 on the A320 (1500 as PIC) and now flying the ATR due to COVID craziness.

Sadly, I wasn't even invited to the selection process, probably because I'm not current on a jet type acft.

Life's like this.

But we'll keep going.
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Old 4th Feb 2023, 21:58
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Originally Posted by A320251N
Well...

+8000hs here, +5000 on the 737, +2500 on the A320 (1500 as PIC) and now flying the ATR due to COVID craziness.

Sadly, I wasn't even invited to the selection process, probably because I'm not current on a jet type acft.

Life's like this.

But we'll keep going.
Hope it’s at least atr on coldish weather, so u don’t sweat 😅

It’s sad that many requirements don’t make any sense, right? Just like X hours in the previous 12 months. Someone who’s been flying for years and years and years has to take 1-2 years off for whatever reason and suddenly they become incapable for the job
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Old 6th Feb 2023, 15:06
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Hi

I have been waiting since mid-december for a joining date (after having passed the Dubai assessment) but still no news from the recruitment team. How long does that typically take?
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 13:00
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Guys have any of you done a bit of bush flying ?
Plenty of time for experience to be gained at Rock Bottom after joining.
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 13:13
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Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding
How many 380s do Ek still have in storage due lack of crew? Last count was 35.

350s, 330neo, 787s all arriving next year. Even with common ratings, headcount must be going up overall. Maybe expansion will be back on the cards as the industry rebound continues?
The interesting thing is there is very little to no room to expand now. Even with 380s still parked up gathering dust in DWC, I have heard of colleagues having to wait after landing at DXB, due to the stand being occupied. There is no more real estate at DXB to build parking stands, unless the Air Wing hangar gets demolished and there is more chance of seeing TC welcoming crew back in arrivals after a night flight.

Unless capital is spent and DWC is developed, expansion will be very limited, apart from the 777-300 freighter fleet, which will more than likely be based at DWC.
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 17:44
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Let's try and get this thread back on track! - What are the benefits to joining EK today and what's the best way to get through the assessment?

For those who say don't waste your time, what other options are there in this region? Same story down the road so why don't we start with what is actually working!
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 17:50
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Originally Posted by TogaTaxi
If anyone makes it passed literally 29 pages of topic derailment, here is a detailed overview of the entire assessment process from someone who has done it recently as an A380 candidate:

Step 1 - Apply:
Apply online from the latest position. If you're eligible based on the initial requirements they'll get back to you by email requesting more info and documents.

Step 2 - Online Saville Test and Abstract Reasoning:
If everything is fine with your documents they will email you with a small congratulations and ask you to book a time to do a Saville (Personality test) and Abstract reasoning test (Finding the next sequence of shapes). This is colloquially known as the psychometric test. All done online.

Step 3 - Online HR interview:
Should you pass step 2, they will again email you with a small congratulations and ask you to go online and book a slot for an online HR interview test online. It was done through Microsoft Teams with an HR rep and an interviewer who is technically proficient with aviation.

Step 4 - 2 day assessment in Dubai:
If everything is okay with your HR interview you will be emailed again with yet another congrats and an invitation to come to Dubai. From here you can negotiate a suitable time, tickets, visas and travel details - all through email.
  • Day 1:
    • Once you arrive in Dubai, Day 1 will consist of a brief welcome, the COMPASS test, a document check and the SIM assessment. If you come from airbus there is a chance you get on an A320 SIM and the exercises consist of a visual circuit, V1 cut, single engine go around, raw data and a very small CRM/decision making exercise. They do not want to see SOP, procedural or system knowledge. Just that you have good stick and rudder skills and have good overall decision making skills.
  • Day 2:
    • You will then go back to the hotel and wait for a phone call to tell you if you have been successful. Some people can be asked to repeat only certain aspects of day1. If you are successful you will then do your medical exam and some people may be asked to do additional psychometric tests (500 personality questions and a brief chat with a psychologist). Once all this is done you will return home.
Step 5 - References and Security checks:
You will then get an email asking for references, which has to be from your management or training department and a final security check. At this stage they are still evaluating everything.

Step 6 - Final congrats, contract signage and advise to resign:
Once everything has been checked they will now email you as to a good time to have a phone call. On the phone call you will receive a final congrats and negotiate potential starting dates. This is also where they may inform you that you haven't been successful. Once that's done you will receive an email to sign onto a portal and sign a contract digitally as well as all your pay breakdowns. Once that's done you will receive a final email stating it is safe to resign at the earliest.


Since most of this info is common knowledge, I'll also include some commonly asked questions about the process:

How long before x?:
Everything happened extremely quickly between all the above steps - within days of each other. The only time it took a relatively long time was after coming home from the assessment in Dubai. Between step 4 and step 5 it took roughly a month and between step 5 and step 6 it took roughly 2 weeks.
Please keep in mind things might have changed recently as recruitment may be slowing down.

I've applied but not heard back:
My advise would be to make sure your application is with the latest job offer and not an old one. If in doubt email [email protected] with your application number. They are extremely helpful and reply promptly.

I was unsuccessful during x, how long before I can apply again?:
1 year, unless something has changed recently.

Which fleet will I be assigned if successful?:
Was told categorically from the recruitment team, Airbus goes to 380, Boeing goes to 777, unless something has changed recently.

Hope this helps
Thank you for providing some valuable insight! As someone above said, best post so far.

Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
The guys joining aren’t leaving proper jobs in the west .. they are leaving fo positions in ****wagon airlines, that’s all we can attract these days
In this crude statement, what are you trying to say? Have the standard's for assessment been lowered, that is an internal issue then.

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having recently attended a selection for the guys down the road, this is shockingly accurate. I was the only one there with a proper job, everyone else (more than 10) were from crap ACMI or Asian companies. Looking around the room made me ask myself what the hell I was doing there
What possibly are you trying to say in this racist remark? If a pilot is from an "Asian" company is he not considered a pilot, is he/she not worthy of assessment according to you?
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 17:50
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Originally Posted by PegasusBoi
Man it’s a sad life, huh? Counting every hour towards the minimum of 2000 above 20ton and now about to finally get my atpl, only to have those minimums changed to Airbus/Boeing only. Life sucks
I know the struggle. The same here. I applied with prievious requirements but I am patient. The new requirement exists because of the "training constraints". It might take some time until non A/B rated guys will be called for screening but I will eventually happen. Good luck!
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Old 7th Feb 2023, 21:53
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To add some context, the company is desperately short of trainers on the Boeing at least and I suspect the Airbus is similar. A job that is coveted in so many carriers, yet EK can't attract enough suitable internal applicants. A general reflection of the malaise within the ranks.
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Old 8th Feb 2023, 02:17
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Originally Posted by Lawrance
I know the struggle. The same here. I applied with prievious requirements but I am patient. The new requirement exists because of the "training constraints". It might take some time until non A/B rated guys will be called for screening but I will eventually happen. Good luck!
Makes sense! I know the transition from 320 to 330 is very short, I assume it’s the same duration for the 320 to 380? I don’t know if that works for the Boeing fleet as well

If they are is desperate need for new guys, sure doesn’t make any sense to reduce your pool even more. Let’s wait and see. I might go to flydubai though, can’t waste time on a bet that u don’t know how long it’s going to take


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To add some context, the company is desperately short of trainers on the Boeing at least and I suspect the Airbus is similar. A job that is coveted in so many carriers, yet EK can't attract enough suitable internal applicants. A general reflection of the malaise within the ranks.
Lovely name, thanks for the info!
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Old 8th Feb 2023, 15:43
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You not only have to be rated in an Airbus or Boeing type aircraft, but apparently you have also to be current in one of those types.
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