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it has happened in the past, about the same time as Ryanair was doing roadshows in the UAE.
Training in the ME is not up to the standards you are probably used to in Europe/USA. The word on the street was that the prop guys weren’t up to the job with many not getting through the training and recruitment for prop lads ultimately stopping.
The truth is, Emirates training wasn’t up to the job. Also, there is a lot of prejudice from many of the trainers who are from parts of the world where you have to be a lot older to get on the “big birds” or need to have joined with the same jet time as they did back in 1994 otherwise you are an imposter. It’s a strange mindset because I have found prop guys in no way inferior.
I just find it interesting because EK do see them as inferior and when the prop boys turn up ,our big boss BT sends us all emails saying how well recruitment is going , which I read to mean “we’re scraping the barrel again.”
Interesting that the big balls trainers walking around moaning about guys coming with thousands of hours on the ATR/dash don’t bat an eyelid when the 100 hour wonder local turns up in his school uniform.
Training in the ME is not up to the standards you are probably used to in Europe/USA. The word on the street was that the prop guys weren’t up to the job with many not getting through the training and recruitment for prop lads ultimately stopping.
The truth is, Emirates training wasn’t up to the job. Also, there is a lot of prejudice from many of the trainers who are from parts of the world where you have to be a lot older to get on the “big birds” or need to have joined with the same jet time as they did back in 1994 otherwise you are an imposter. It’s a strange mindset because I have found prop guys in no way inferior.
I just find it interesting because EK do see them as inferior and when the prop boys turn up ,our big boss BT sends us all emails saying how well recruitment is going , which I read to mean “we’re scraping the barrel again.”
Interesting that the big balls trainers walking around moaning about guys coming with thousands of hours on the ATR/dash don’t bat an eyelid when the 100 hour wonder local turns up in his school uniform.
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You aren't paying the price. You have gained good experience flying the ATR on multiple sectors and often in bad weather. That experience, although it doesn't feel like it now, will come in really, really useful in the future. A long time ago I flew ATRs and now I'm flying the A380 at Emirates - if that is what you want to do (are you sure that is what you want to do?) then you just have to be a bit patient.
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It’s brilliant experience for EK to bring. Never understood why so many in the industry look down on prop pilots.
Inshallah in future.
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Clearly, there is an element of snobbery in the UAE. This is the land of the 10 lane motorways, revving Ferraris, 7 star hotel, beautiful bikini clad women and Rolls Royce jets. Respectfully my friend, you would see more respect for having a fishing licence than an ATR rating here in Dubai.
Everybody is in competition of who has the biggest nuts, who has the fastest car, who's 'bought in the marina', who's chest pressing the biggest weight, who's got the nicest new girlfriend. I can't tell you how many gentleman I fly with in Emirates who feel the need to show me the girl that they are 'seeing to'. Within the pilot community it is almost seen as kudos.
Unfortunately, you see the same guys again many years on and they are living in a 4 bed villa in Meydan South alone, the wife has found out , the wife has left, the kids don't want too much to do with them, the dogs even done one. It's interesting to see but really really really sad.
I'm sure its a cultural thing, bigger is better in Dubai and flying a turboprop is seen in a similar way to driving a Smart car.
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Thanks for the time taken for the reponses guys.. Trying to get a 737/320 job in the UK is difficult with the ATR hours too. The only ones who seem willing to take you on are BA and Aer Lingus. Virgin hired recently but were only interested in Boeing or Airbus guys. Jet2 was vastly oversubscribed and easyJet only hiring rated or new cadets. TUI only interested in rated guys. Cargo jobs seem to be heavily contacts based and even then when the likes of west atlantic hire, they want you rated on the 737 otherwise they'll put you on the ATR for X years again. DHL not open to prop guys. There are regional ops but again I'll be staying on props.
You can always pay 30k and join ryanair which being honest doesn't seem like a bad idea right now when you consider the potential salary earnings disparity between prop and jet jobs going further into the future. You'll make the money back pretty quick further down the road with the opportunities that open up. It really feels like I've hit a wall in where I can go with my prop hours.
You can always pay 30k and join ryanair which being honest doesn't seem like a bad idea right now when you consider the potential salary earnings disparity between prop and jet jobs going further into the future. You'll make the money back pretty quick further down the road with the opportunities that open up. It really feels like I've hit a wall in where I can go with my prop hours.
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Thanks for the time taken for the reponses guys.. Trying to get a 737/320 job in the UK is difficult with the ATR hours too. The only ones who seem willing to take you on are BA and Aer Lingus. Virgin hired recently but were only interested in Boeing or Airbus guys. Jet2 was vastly oversubscribed and easyJet only hiring rated or new cadets. TUI only interested in rated guys. Cargo jobs seem to be heavily contacts based and even then when the likes of west atlantic hire, they want you rated on the 737 otherwise they'll put you on the ATR for X years again. DHL not open to prop guys. There are regional ops but again I'll be staying on props.
You can always pay 30k and join ryanair which being honest doesn't seem like a bad idea right now when you consider the potential salary earnings disparity between prop and jet jobs going further into the future. You'll make the money back pretty quick further down the road with the opportunities that open up. It really feels like I've hit a wall in where I can go with my prop hours.
You can always pay 30k and join ryanair which being honest doesn't seem like a bad idea right now when you consider the potential salary earnings disparity between prop and jet jobs going further into the future. You'll make the money back pretty quick further down the road with the opportunities that open up. It really feels like I've hit a wall in where I can go with my prop hours.
Emirates are doing roadshows which is a great sign for people like yourself . So many guys are leaving or refuse to return that there is no doubt you’ll hear in time.
Emirates is a great opportunity to build up experience.It certainly stands you in good stead for futures opportunities.
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Emirates are doing roadshows which is a great sign for people like yourself . So many guys are leaving or refuse to return that there is no doubt you’ll hear in time.
Emirates is a great opportunity to build up experience.It certainly stands you in good stead for futures opportunities.
Emirates is a great opportunity to build up experience.It certainly stands you in good stead for futures opportunities.
that you have been EK counts nothing at all
if u can get your experience somewhere else it counts as much.
nobody on the hiring side will you give a preference just because your where at EK
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Given Australians can now work in the US on E3 visas, EK may have a difficult time finding fresh meat from over there. Given they can fly heavies for companies with union protection where the contract is actually treated like a legal document, it’s a bit of a no-brainer.
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Also sadly to see the arrogance and pre occupation against TP in recruitings which just a sh…. Man made BS from people who had the luck to start in a jet as first job. And that’s all around a European thing where you start with 300 hours after flight school on a 737 or 320. in the us nearly every jet pilot has thousands of hours on small units including TP.
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Hold pool
HiI applied for first officer position, I have more than enough hours for that. Yet i did receive an email telling me that due to operational reasons, they're looking for pilots "with more hours on a specific type" therefore my application was moved to a hold pool
I was wondering if anyone knows what hold pool is ?
And does it mean I still have a chance? Or is it a polite way to say go away ? 😆
Thanks
I was wondering if anyone knows what hold pool is ?
And does it mean I still have a chance? Or is it a polite way to say go away ? 😆
Thanks
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Yer, nice, EK is definitely better than that.
An Aussie working in HKG bet you have had a great couple of years mate ! When did you last see sun light? Are you still cutting your own hair ?
An Aussie working in HKG bet you have had a great couple of years mate ! When did you last see sun light? Are you still cutting your own hair ?
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Bowl cuts are still in fashion here so no bad hair day. Every cloud...
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HiI applied for first officer position, I have more than enough hours for that. Yet i did receive an email telling me that due to operational reasons, they're looking for pilots "with more hours on a specific type" therefore my application was moved to a hold pool
I was wondering if anyone knows what hold pool is ?
And does it mean I still have a chance? Or is it a polite way to say go away ? 😆
Thanks
I was wondering if anyone knows what hold pool is ?
And does it mean I still have a chance? Or is it a polite way to say go away ? 😆
Thanks