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Joining Qatar airways (Master thread)-2

Old 8th Apr 2022, 18:09
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Well, If you compare yourself with beggars, then airlines will very well treat you like one.
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Old 9th Apr 2022, 08:13
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
Well, If you compare yourself with beggars, then airlines will very well treat you like one.
a bit harsh. I think anyone that has the impression that any airline around the world cares about you or will treat you well is living in another era when being a pilot was important. Once you accept you’re just a number whether its in Europe or the ME or ASIA, you’ll feel much better. An airline is a business with very narrow margins, they want to make money and you’re just an employee. Full stop. Any other assumption of your importance is an illusion.

If Covid taught you anything its that all airlines are the same. They all let go of people (yes even in Europe with loads of unions and laws!)
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Old 9th Apr 2022, 08:56
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I didn’t mean to disrespect anyone. But “ Beggars can’t be choosers” doesn’t fit our case. Have some self worth guys. Industry will recover and sooner or later there will be a severe pilot shortage. Pilots of any country always have a choice. Yes, you are just a number, it’s not like the good old days, but at-least in your home country you have some say. Your home airline wouldn’t fire you that easily, but as an expat, they don’t think twice. So take it with the pinch of salt. All those good T&Cs comes with a disclaimer in a fine print.
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Old 9th Apr 2022, 16:03
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
I didn’t mean to disrespect anyone. But “ Beggars can’t be choosers” doesn’t fit our case. Have some self worth guys. Industry will recover and sooner or later there will be a severe pilot shortage. Pilots of any country always have a choice. Yes, you are just a number, it’s not like the good old days, but at-least in your home country you have some say. Your home airline wouldn’t fire you that easily, but as an expat, they don’t think twice. So take it with the pinch of salt. All those good T&Cs comes with a disclaimer in a fine print.
Agreed. There is some say, but ultimately they’ve let go of thousands of pilots in Europe (say or not, union or not). I think its always been clear that moving to the ME or most of ASIA means you’ve understood that you could get fired for anything with no fair reasoning or case. Its been like this for decades now. Thats why one trades security for more cash usually - everyone has a preference. That being said I know FOs in an EU country with 10 years service that were Fired during covid to make way for Captains to take their seat rather than firing equally across both seats - and yes there was a Union but nothing happened. So you tell me if that was fair? Safe to say no job is safe anywhere as a pilot - gone are the strong unions (most are self serving now), labor laws (what are those?)….
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Old 9th Apr 2022, 16:11
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Originally Posted by lostinspace89
Agreed. There is some say, but ultimately they’ve let go of thousands of pilots in Europe (say or not, union or not). I think its always been clear that moving to the ME or most of ASIA means you’ve understood that you could get fired for anything with no fair reasoning or case. Its been like this for decades now. Thats why one trades security for more cash usually - everyone has a preference. That being said I know FOs in an EU country with 10 years service that were Fired during covid to make way for Captains to take their seat rather than firing equally across both seats - and yes there was a Union but nothing happened. So you tell me if that was fair? Safe to say no job is safe anywhere as a pilot - gone are the strong unions (most are self serving now), labor laws (what are those?)….

True.Like you said, it’s just a business and they only think about profits and we are just numbers. Covid 19 is an exceptional situation, none of the previous recessions were this bad. But Europe did recover fast and many airlines started hiring in no time.

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Old 9th Apr 2022, 20:31
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Originally Posted by lostinspace89
Agreed. There is some say, but ultimately they’ve let go of thousands of pilots in Europe (say or not, union or not). I think its always been clear that moving to the ME or most of ASIA means you’ve understood that you could get fired for anything with no fair reasoning or case. Its been like this for decades now. Thats why one trades security for more cash usually - everyone has a preference. That being said I know FOs in an EU country with 10 years service that were Fired during covid to make way for Captains to take their seat rather than firing equally across both seats - and yes there was a Union but nothing happened. So you tell me if that was fair? Safe to say no job is safe anywhere as a pilot - gone are the strong unions (most are self serving now), labor laws (what are those?)….
That my friend is how seniority works. The union protected seniority, that is what unions try to do. You will love ME as there is no such thing.
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 04:32
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Originally Posted by mischo1990
You were right. Got an email from them to come in may for the assesment. Looking forward.
Hey, can you please tell me how long it took after the psychometric test to receive an invitation? I just did the assessment a few days ago and have heard nothing from them. Any help will be appreciated.
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 10:59
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Originally Posted by WrldWide
That my friend is how seniority works. The union protected seniority, that is what unions try to do. You will love ME as there is no such thing.
Yes seniority. But they weren’t all senior. Direct Entry Captains can be less senior than SFOs. Even BA fired crew not by seniority but by Type (some crew never even flown on type were saved whilst others with years seniority let go) So honestly please stop thinking that its a ME way of firing, its done everywhere. You’re just not aware of it. At least in the ME you know you’re joining an outfit with little rights , as I said…its the calculated compromise you take usually for more money or benefits.
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 14:15
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Originally Posted by flyhigh7272
Hey, can you please tell me how long it took after the psychometric test to receive an invitation? I just did the assessment a few days ago and have heard nothing from them. Any help will be appreciated.
Welcome in the club!!! Did Psa 12 days ago… nothing yet!
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 08:48
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I agree, at least in QR you know where you stand.. unlike some bogus self employment schemes happening around Europe where the contracts are a paperweight itself.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 13:17
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I got a rejection letter today from initial online application. I have 15000+ hours total and more than 9000+ on Airbus A330/A340/A350 types. I suspect my lack of relevant type flying during the pandemic has red flagged my application. Nothing I can do about that.

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 18:47
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Originally Posted by T54A
I got a rejection letter today from initial online application. I have 15000+ hours total and more than 9000+ on Airbus A330/A340/A350 types. I suspect my lack of relevant type flying during the pandemic has reg flagged my application. Nothing I can do about that.
Likewise, got the rejection letter today.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 19:44
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Originally Posted by flyhigh7272
Hey, can you please tell me how long it took after the psychometric test to receive an invitation? I just did the assessment a few days ago and have heard nothing from them. Any help will be appreciated.
I got an email for an invite to Doha about 6 weeks after I completed the PSA.
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 12:45
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Is anyone heading for an interview on the 29th May?

Again, I’d love to get in contact with anyone currently at QR. Many thanks
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 14:05
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I'm the same offered interview in Doha about 6 weeks after the PSA
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Old 13th Apr 2022, 23:12
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Hey Guys,
I did submit my application about a month ago and heard nothing back. not the PSA email nor a rejection letter. I am type rated Bb738 F.O and current. I have +4000 Jet hours (1000 on B738). I reviewed my application and documents several times and all looks good. Any ideas what could be wrong. Is this a normal situation. Appreciate it.
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Old 14th Apr 2022, 12:56
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It looks like the recruitment processes in QR are being slowed down now .
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Old 14th Apr 2022, 23:47
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Anyone knows if it´s possible to reschedule assesment date? Tried per email, no answer so far...
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Old 15th Apr 2022, 19:40
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Wait for some time. They'll do it themselves.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 07:23
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Mine got changed twice already with another one expected!
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