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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 16th Mar 2015, 18:03
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Been here 7 years, on the 777, and have never seen a roster like that.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 18:54
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Ek Fleet

Amongst the A330/340, A380 & B777 which would be now considered the best fleet to be on in terms of roster , lifestyle and destinations??
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 23:23
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4 periods of 4 days off....I wish.
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 03:03
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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The 777 and 380 are considered one airline...with the 330/340 being "completely another". There really is no comparison, with the 330/340 roster/lifestyle being absolutely horrible IMHO.
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 11:22
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ok that being said ...as a new joiner which fleet can one with airbus experience expect 330/34 or 380?

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Old 17th Mar 2015, 12:23
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they will put you on the fleet where they need you. seen guys with substantial airbus experience go to the 777...and guys with boeing experience go to the airbus. and what you are told can change short notice. so don't rely on joining a fleet...you are joining a company...for better or worse.
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 12:46
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busgirl:

why are the fleets u mentioned getting the better treatment in your opinion
newer plans ? could this change on the long run?
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 14:10
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Aileron droop it's all here even if you take the briefest of interest in these forums. The A330/340 fleet ends up doing all the night turnarounds to India and Pakistan and hence the lifestyle, rosters and quality of life on this fleet is substantially below what you would find on the A380.

You now need 2500 Hours Jet above 50 Tonnes MTOW including 1500 Hours on Airbus aircraft for Direct Entry A380. However as has been said you are joining the company not necessarily a particular fleet so you could end up on an A330 course after meeting all the requirements for the A380 and being offered that position.
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 13:20
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Glacier Pilot. I Have never seen 4 periods of 4 days off on my roster; that must be the marketing department. Total days off through the month about 9 to 10 on average with usually 2 between 5 flights for a block between 95-99 hrs per month. That's more realistic, though it is expected to worsen if you believe the grapevine.
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Old 20th Mar 2015, 07:15
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Glacier

Our MAX days off in a month is 15, therefore having 4 periods of 4 days off (4x4=16) wouldn't happen.
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Old 20th Mar 2015, 08:36
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Yes....lazy pilots must not steal from the company.
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 16:15
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A380

its 3000+ on 50T< Jet plus 1500 FBW for A380.
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 16:26
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Nope. Just been reduced to 2500, as per latest roadshow and the recruitment section of the website. And the FBW has to be Airbus.

http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/...uirements.aspx
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 17:47
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Wow ! Looks like an intensive shortage !
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 19:13
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There's a reason for the shortage, we can't all be wrong !!

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Old 21st Mar 2015, 19:19
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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Roster

Guys, if you even think about rostering as an important aspect of your life then stay as far away from EK as you can.
You will fly max hours on any fleet now with no credit for simulator, ground training etc. I flew more than a 110h in 28 days in 2014 - if you count the two 8 hour dead heads to Africa in the midlle of the night to pick up a freighter there.
If you have leave you will still fly max hours. Done 80h in 2 weeks regularly in leave months.
Been to Oz and back and then to SFO in a week. Been to Dallas and back and then to Tokyo in a week.
And the reality is that if you bid for 5 days off in your top bid month they will book you a 2h manual handling sim in the middle. So again you can not leave Dubai.
3 days off between back of the clock ULRs is barely enough to rest and get the bare necessities done. Unless your wife does them for you. Of course somebody else will have to do your wife for you. You might be too tired or not there at all.
Read the forum.
For those who are stuck in EK it is only going to get worse. And here is the crux. Once you are there it is quite hard to leave. Kids in school. Bond to repay. And no useful days off or vacation granted to attend an assessment somewhere else. Recently an increasing number of guys are leaving EK without a job because of that. I did.
Stay well clear of EK until the company has had to park airplanes, fired AAR and started all over again by treating people in a humane way. That could be a while. Until then any pilot in EK who can not leave has my deepest sympathy.
Don't volunteer to join them.
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 22:44
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Don't be stupid, avoid this place like ebola.
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Old 22nd Mar 2015, 12:11
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In freedom, maybe you should change your name.. I don't understand why rostering is such an issue. Obviously there are always unlucky people that unfortunately cannot leave DXB as you mentioned. But there is many guys that actually get the leave and leave DXB momentarily from time to time..

There is so much negativity by certain people on this forum- that you almost might think EK is not worth a shot. Well done to the EK illuminati or whatever you call them..

Everyone is responsible for lowering and accepting less T&C's. We are all responsible for moving on for a better cause.. Years and years ago all was great comments but now- look at us now. Newbies destroying the T&C. Guys wake up please- you joined an Airline where no Union has its place. Don't forget that you guys didn't do anything to maintain the standard. Just accept it- you're in place where management is ruling. On the otherside- in Europe- companies get destroyed by unions rather than shiny pilots give up some expensive T&C's.

ALL BECAUSE OF THE SAME INTERESTS OF YOUR EK MANGEMENT - GREED!!

Everyone needs to accept that the complete industry outside the U.S. is getting worse and worse. Every continent has its own issues.. Money, rosters, leave, pension and etc.. Working 900 hours is unfortunate the norm!

Please don't blame guys that are in search of better benefits than their actual / former ones. EK indeed offers a very good package. But like any industry employers employ employees to work efficiently- and of course in the benefit of the company!

Lately there is only the same whining from pilots at EK. Well done in choosing topics that make newbies scratch their back sides of their heads.. Looking closely I can see the trend from a group that is out to destroy the good reputation of the airline. Unfortunately we as pilots don't have much better things to do than complaining. But just compare your life style and benefits with the ones in your own country. I come from a very wealthy country and the last 10 years everything has been going downwards.. Its not only the aviation industry!

In my humble opinion you should all face the reality and wake up from your own bubble..!

Just my 2 dirhams..
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Old 22nd Mar 2015, 14:32
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I don't understand why rostering is such an issue.
That's because you're not actually a pilot and are not subject to it.

EK indeed offers a very good package. But like any industry employers employ employees to work efficiently- and of course in the benefit of the company!
Obviously not good enough or people wouldn't be lining up to leave. Like any Industry, employees will walk if there are better opportunities elsewhere.

Looking closely I can see the trend from a group that is out to destroy the good reputation of the airline. Unfortunately we as pilots don't have much better things to do than complaining.
There you go again pretending to be a pilot.....if your English was better some might believe you
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Old 22nd Mar 2015, 14:56
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Pilots are subjected to leave due to several issues and their own private reasons.

Pilots are in general followers, if one is set to leave with strong verbal skills. More will follow.. I have seen this in my current airline and can sense this in EK.

What makes you think that I am not a Pilot? Your mature comment doesn't reflect your 92 hours issue. Seems like you have sufficient time to hang around on a forum? Do you find it hard to make friends in DXB and have better things to do than crying to leave the pit.....

Excuse my language- im not english native. That something you did get right this time.

Better opportunities is subjected to individual(s) their own needs. Everyone who joined this industry after 911 is part of accepting downstream management and is participating in lowering the T&C. To shoot people off that seek info is pathetic. Just because certain individuals like you probably cannot make DXB / EK work. Be mature enough to except it and leave.

There is loads of threats here that are warning individuals of joining EK.
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