Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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I have the "Preparing for your Emirates Interview: the pilots guide" by Captains XYZ 1st edition.
Email me for the details if anyone is interested.
It got me the job !!
Email me for the details if anyone is interested.
It got me the job !!
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Don't forget. This is your last chance to ask those questions.
Accomodation (What do they have planned for you)
Upgrade policy (Unless you are a DEC it is probably important to you) They will not answer this, but you can get an idea of what is going on.
Don't be afraid of asking. They need you a lot more than you need them. They will not admit, but they do.......
Good luck.
Accomodation (What do they have planned for you)
Upgrade policy (Unless you are a DEC it is probably important to you) They will not answer this, but you can get an idea of what is going on.
Don't be afraid of asking. They need you a lot more than you need them. They will not admit, but they do.......
Good luck.
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Good luck with your interview busman.
People post a lot of negative stuff here but there is also a silent majority with a different perspective that have nil interest in reading these Forums. Most professionals have a far more rational approach to career selection than believing the more extreme views that you may read here. Conversely, there is some "negative dialogue" that is merited. Nothing wrong with people expressing themselves, just highlighting that the more content generally can't be bothered to express their perspective.
Not everything is perfect here, but then again very few pilots have ever found the perfect employer! I'd like to see some changes, nothing that I would resign over at least. No other airline is offering a significantly better enticement so here I am.
The real indication to Emirates of a competitive package and career structure will be dictated by people such as yourself deciding to accept an offer of employment or not.
You only need to convince yourself and your family that it is the right position for you. As a previous poster said, don’t be afraid to ask whatever question you need to satisfy yourself.
People post a lot of negative stuff here but there is also a silent majority with a different perspective that have nil interest in reading these Forums. Most professionals have a far more rational approach to career selection than believing the more extreme views that you may read here. Conversely, there is some "negative dialogue" that is merited. Nothing wrong with people expressing themselves, just highlighting that the more content generally can't be bothered to express their perspective.
Not everything is perfect here, but then again very few pilots have ever found the perfect employer! I'd like to see some changes, nothing that I would resign over at least. No other airline is offering a significantly better enticement so here I am.
The real indication to Emirates of a competitive package and career structure will be dictated by people such as yourself deciding to accept an offer of employment or not.
You only need to convince yourself and your family that it is the right position for you. As a previous poster said, don’t be afraid to ask whatever question you need to satisfy yourself.
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Please ask them if there is a chance you could be recruited onto the A310 fleet. EK are getting more of these aircraft. One will be passenger fit (they have it already) and the others will be freighters. If they offer you a position it will be a "take it or leave it offer". If you try and stall for time (as a friend of my did) you will not be considered again in the future. During interview you will be asked to come up with a time frame in which you will be ready to join EK. They will say, "How much notice do you need to give your employer? The answer you give us now, we will hold you to". This surprised me during the interview but I understand why now. They don't want people saying "Oh! I'll just wait until I can join the fleet of my choice". They also want a "proof of resignation" letter from your employer, so they know you are coming. I'm not sure, but I think you'll only find out the fleet after you provide this letter (any one reading this with a recent experience opposing this possibility please let me know)
If you are offered a position they will not highlight which fleet you will be put on when the offer is made. It is simply an F/O position. They WILL answer to an e-mail or phone call enquiry. I found out the answer to this question after signing on the dotted line. At the time I wasn't worried about which fleet. The rules at EK are NOT what you may be used to (or in line with your friend's experiences) in the majority of other wide body operators. No "Transition upgrades". In other words you may be on the A310 fleet waiting for promotion on a "dead man shoes" basis only. How long would that be? Who knows? Could be a very, very long time hauling freight (mostly freight, but also horses, sometimes pax) on less pay than an Atlas pilot flying freight exclusively in a 747 in EK colours.
None of this may an issue to you and so good luck. But things are definitely changing in the industry and huge aircraft orders have been placed in this region and close by. The flight for your interview isn't cheap. And all that bother (and it is) for a freighter job? So perhaps you'd be wise to ask them by phone if any of this is a possibility before taking out your credit card. It wouldn't hurt your interview prospects in my opinion. You may be lucky and get on the 777 or the airbus 330, but the promotion prospects on the bus are very difficult to predict at the moment as the recruitment of DEC's (I'm not against them) is heavily relied on and the policy of "no transitions" (I'm against that) is NOT mentioned at interview stage. They may discuss it IF you ask them. Please do so; it will have implications for your career.
I'm not sure why but some of the 777 courses for new starters have not been filled by those that accepted the job. One course at least had to be completely cancelled! And that is on the "fast promotion" fleet. Is there anyone out there who can shed light on that?
Good luck
If you are offered a position they will not highlight which fleet you will be put on when the offer is made. It is simply an F/O position. They WILL answer to an e-mail or phone call enquiry. I found out the answer to this question after signing on the dotted line. At the time I wasn't worried about which fleet. The rules at EK are NOT what you may be used to (or in line with your friend's experiences) in the majority of other wide body operators. No "Transition upgrades". In other words you may be on the A310 fleet waiting for promotion on a "dead man shoes" basis only. How long would that be? Who knows? Could be a very, very long time hauling freight (mostly freight, but also horses, sometimes pax) on less pay than an Atlas pilot flying freight exclusively in a 747 in EK colours.
None of this may an issue to you and so good luck. But things are definitely changing in the industry and huge aircraft orders have been placed in this region and close by. The flight for your interview isn't cheap. And all that bother (and it is) for a freighter job? So perhaps you'd be wise to ask them by phone if any of this is a possibility before taking out your credit card. It wouldn't hurt your interview prospects in my opinion. You may be lucky and get on the 777 or the airbus 330, but the promotion prospects on the bus are very difficult to predict at the moment as the recruitment of DEC's (I'm not against them) is heavily relied on and the policy of "no transitions" (I'm against that) is NOT mentioned at interview stage. They may discuss it IF you ask them. Please do so; it will have implications for your career.
I'm not sure why but some of the 777 courses for new starters have not been filled by those that accepted the job. One course at least had to be completely cancelled! And that is on the "fast promotion" fleet. Is there anyone out there who can shed light on that?
Good luck
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Scudsy,
Nothing wrong with flying freight....you would be surprise to know how much the "Atlas guys" are making......a lot more than what the guys at EK are getting, that's for sure..... and for the guys base in EU it's also TAX FREE.
Thebusman: good luck on the interview, I hope that you are not leaving a "good company" to join EK, PLS email us your comments after a year of joining.
Cheers.....
Nothing wrong with flying freight....you would be surprise to know how much the "Atlas guys" are making......a lot more than what the guys at EK are getting, that's for sure..... and for the guys base in EU it's also TAX FREE.
Thebusman: good luck on the interview, I hope that you are not leaving a "good company" to join EK, PLS email us your comments after a year of joining.
Cheers.....
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Thanks 74world. I would agree, freighter work isn't a bad job at all. Do you have to make your own tea and coffee? LOL. But if a person applys to Emirates they normally think of the passenger operation and often don't realise there is a freighter fleet. An expanding one. They may have desires to be in the 777 or 340. Instead it's more likely to be on the 330 without Multi Fleet Flying (Hydrabad turnarounds!) or the 310 freighter.
And thanks also for the info regarding pay. How much better is it than Emirates? How's the roster? How's morale over there?
I seem to bump into alot of unhappy bus pilots in Dubai. Even some 777 guys are planning to leave as soon as they can. Just met one bus pilot who was told he could NOT leave the UAE for his 7 days off. He was second from top bid and very pleased at having cleverly bid a whole week off, but his plans were well and truely scuppered when he was told by Emirates that he couldn't go any where!
That's another one they don't shout about in the interview by the way. You need to ask 48 hours in advance for permission to leave base (in other words the UAE). This Guy only wanted to pop over to Europe (8 hours each way). He had 7 days to do it in.
If you're still interested in Emirates but don't like the idea of your travel being restricted on your days off then please, PLEASE, ask them about these travel restrictions BEFORE you travel all this way for an interview. Big waste of your money and their time. If you still go for the interview MAKE SURE THIS IS ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. Along with the points made above. It's quite a shock to most people when Emirates actually use this travel restriction rule, because you normally associate this sort of thing with emergency measures. Where's the emergency? No bombs have gone off in the UAE, (although some threats have been made). I can't think of a decent reason why he's restricted. I recently asked for 4 days and got it?!?
I can't say I agree with the principle though. My days off, my free time!
And thanks also for the info regarding pay. How much better is it than Emirates? How's the roster? How's morale over there?
I seem to bump into alot of unhappy bus pilots in Dubai. Even some 777 guys are planning to leave as soon as they can. Just met one bus pilot who was told he could NOT leave the UAE for his 7 days off. He was second from top bid and very pleased at having cleverly bid a whole week off, but his plans were well and truely scuppered when he was told by Emirates that he couldn't go any where!
That's another one they don't shout about in the interview by the way. You need to ask 48 hours in advance for permission to leave base (in other words the UAE). This Guy only wanted to pop over to Europe (8 hours each way). He had 7 days to do it in.
If you're still interested in Emirates but don't like the idea of your travel being restricted on your days off then please, PLEASE, ask them about these travel restrictions BEFORE you travel all this way for an interview. Big waste of your money and their time. If you still go for the interview MAKE SURE THIS IS ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. Along with the points made above. It's quite a shock to most people when Emirates actually use this travel restriction rule, because you normally associate this sort of thing with emergency measures. Where's the emergency? No bombs have gone off in the UAE, (although some threats have been made). I can't think of a decent reason why he's restricted. I recently asked for 4 days and got it?!?
I can't say I agree with the principle though. My days off, my free time!
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I just love that line from Global Nomad
Well I guess you wouldn't Kev as you have just been promoted from a grade 9 manager to Vice President.
Of course it would have nothing to do with your wondrous duty hour & pay cost saving initiative that has essentially given all pilots a pay cut.
You have no idea and never will have any idea of what the problems are on line. Keep Discovering with you head buried in the sand as usual.
I'd like to see some changes, nothing that I would resign over at least. No other airline is offering a significantly better enticement so here I am.
Of course it would have nothing to do with your wondrous duty hour & pay cost saving initiative that has essentially given all pilots a pay cut.
You have no idea and never will have any idea of what the problems are on line. Keep Discovering with you head buried in the sand as usual.