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Yes I would imagine experience with gliders would be beneficial. Ive heard of many people with no particular passion for flying who say they are going to apply. This just frustrates me!
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@sprilite, I had the same question. If one qualifies for "the right to live and work in the UK", will that be sufficient or does one need to have it in place at the time of applying? It's not quite clear from the statement on the website. Hope some one here can give their opinions or understanding on the same. Will help.
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Right to live and work in the UK means what it says.
If you do not have the automatic right to live and work in the UK, you are not eligible. Therefore the FPP is not open to anyone, anywhere in the world -as opposed to other international cadet programmes such as Etihad or Cathay, where the right to live/work in the UAE or Hong Kong is not necessary.
If you do not have the automatic right to live and work in the UK, you are not eligible. Therefore the FPP is not open to anyone, anywhere in the world -as opposed to other international cadet programmes such as Etihad or Cathay, where the right to live/work in the UAE or Hong Kong is not necessary.
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I also thought this when I went to Oxford the other month, but it does seem fair -
As part of the assessment I had about 20 minutes in the sim (CRJ or FNPTII) with a BMI FO. This costs real money, as did the two BA pilots who were doing the interviews and team exercises. You must also consider the cost of the infrastructure and staff included in the whole operation. Even if it ends up costing £350, not only is this necessary to cover costs but it also acts as an early barrier to the inevitable time wasters.
As part of the assessment I had about 20 minutes in the sim (CRJ or FNPTII) with a BMI FO. This costs real money, as did the two BA pilots who were doing the interviews and team exercises. You must also consider the cost of the infrastructure and staff included in the whole operation. Even if it ends up costing £350, not only is this necessary to cover costs but it also acts as an early barrier to the inevitable time wasters.
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To think that only 400 will be chosen over the years whilst this programme runs, I would say nobody should get their hopes too high, as there will literally be tens of thousands of applications, the chances are slim.
Having said that I do find it interesting how low BA have set the minimum requirements, and not even specified which subjects are preferred, perhaps they found that the personality of those with the absolute top qualifications did not always match what they were looking for, because in all honesty I thought the requirements would be much more stringent given the huge amount of people that will apply, if they were to simply pick out the top qualifications to pass the application stage, then those with anything less than AAA/AAB with physics and maths or a top degree need not apply.
Having said that I do find it interesting how low BA have set the minimum requirements, and not even specified which subjects are preferred, perhaps they found that the personality of those with the absolute top qualifications did not always match what they were looking for, because in all honesty I thought the requirements would be much more stringent given the huge amount of people that will apply, if they were to simply pick out the top qualifications to pass the application stage, then those with anything less than AAA/AAB with physics and maths or a top degree need not apply.
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Quote "Personally, I have been biding my time while unable to afford SSP and saving every last penny for a while. My track record demonstrates absolute commitment to the industry with a top degree, A-Levels, GCSEs, UAS, Class 1 and continuous PPL validity. If you feel intimidated, that was entirely the point - don't bother applying and leave the place for me 
...!!!"
Yes you do sound intimidating but it's people like you who deserve it!
...!!!"Yes you do sound intimidating but it's people like you who deserve it!
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My track record demonstrates absolute commitment to the industry with a top degree, A-Levels, GCSEs, UAS, Class 1 and continuous PPL validity.
I wonder at what point PPL hours become detrimental to this application? With such limited job prospects in recent times, I decided to shelve any commercial aspirations for a few years and just enjoy PPL flying until things picked up.
It's a fine line between showing commitment and putting yourself into the so called 'bad habits' bracket.
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I wonder at what point PPL hours become detrimental to this application?
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Cheers.
I'm about 150hrs now so probably too many. Can't complain, I thought that would be the case. I wasn't prepared to sit there letting my PPL gather dust on the off chance a decent scheme might come along though.
Obviously still worth a shot if they don't specify a figure.
I'm about 150hrs now so probably too many. Can't complain, I thought that would be the case. I wasn't prepared to sit there letting my PPL gather dust on the off chance a decent scheme might come along though.
Obviously still worth a shot if they don't specify a figure.
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Jason (and any other KOS like me): don't be put off by joining BA at 40-ish - plenty of ex-mil pilots do the same. I've been here 3 years now and have yet to work a Xmas (famous last words.....). Moreover, with the wider demographic on SH (particularly) I've always managed to get leave in summer hols and the odd half term too, so by no means kiss goodbye to seeing your family for the next 10 years.
The very best of luck.
The very best of luck.
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Uh-oh ... academic stumbling block ...
•3 A levels at grades BBC or above (note General Studies may not be used towards this requirement), or –
Mmmmm ... BCD without General Studies (and even then only BCC! D'oh!!)
•An Honours Degree at 2:1 or above where either of the lower education requirements are not met
You guessed it ... a 2:II
Game over?
•3 A levels at grades BBC or above (note General Studies may not be used towards this requirement), or –
Mmmmm ... BCD without General Studies (and even then only BCC! D'oh!!)
•An Honours Degree at 2:1 or above where either of the lower education requirements are not met
You guessed it ... a 2:II
Game over?
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I find the £200 fee for selection very off putting. Factoring in travel/food/accom. that would need to be done it would cost me closer to £350/400.
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Hello All
I’m a newbie and would just like to introduce myself.
Having been in the employ of Her Majesty’s government for more years than I care to remember, I find myself at the grand old age of fifty in the enviable position of being a debt free retiree in receipt of a modest pension. Thankfully, as my wife is in full employment and my children self supporting, despite still living at home, I do not have to work and would like to think that if I chose to do so, it would be something that I’d do for nothing! Which is why, like so many other contributors to this thread, I was overjoyed to learn of British Airways’ new, exciting and inclusive ‘Future Pilot’ programme. Apparently, they’d even welcome applications from individuals of my vintage.
However, this has been tempered somewhat by the gloomy jottings of some of my peers on these pages who venture that the blind submission of an application by the positively geriatric, would almost inevitably lead to the wastage of both time and money. Apparently, the ‘Over 36s’ would experience extreme difficulty assimilating and processing copious amounts of information including getting to grips with even the most basic principles of flying or the manipulation of hard sums like those involved in the weight distribution of an aircraft – perish the thought; to say nothing of glacially slow reactions coupled with the onset of failing eyesight and hearing. I’ll get my coat…….and walking stick
Seriously, folks, I don’t doubt anything suggested by those of you working in the industry and received wisdom is probably right: I’d be lucky to make it through the paper sift. Still, one shouldn’t give up so easily, so to give myself the best possible chance in the unlikely event that I make it to the second stage of the process, are there examples of the pilot’s aptitude test available online or otherwise, or any other type of test employed by the examiners upon which to test yourself? I should be extremely grateful to learn of such and, of course, am willing to reimburse any costs incurred.
Finally, best wishes to all considering an application, especially the young cabin crew member (sincerest apologies for forgetting your username) who I suspect considers flying an unattainable goal; as they old saying goes, “just do it!!”
Wish this opportunity had been available many years ago.
I’m a newbie and would just like to introduce myself.
Having been in the employ of Her Majesty’s government for more years than I care to remember, I find myself at the grand old age of fifty in the enviable position of being a debt free retiree in receipt of a modest pension. Thankfully, as my wife is in full employment and my children self supporting, despite still living at home, I do not have to work and would like to think that if I chose to do so, it would be something that I’d do for nothing! Which is why, like so many other contributors to this thread, I was overjoyed to learn of British Airways’ new, exciting and inclusive ‘Future Pilot’ programme. Apparently, they’d even welcome applications from individuals of my vintage.
However, this has been tempered somewhat by the gloomy jottings of some of my peers on these pages who venture that the blind submission of an application by the positively geriatric, would almost inevitably lead to the wastage of both time and money. Apparently, the ‘Over 36s’ would experience extreme difficulty assimilating and processing copious amounts of information including getting to grips with even the most basic principles of flying or the manipulation of hard sums like those involved in the weight distribution of an aircraft – perish the thought; to say nothing of glacially slow reactions coupled with the onset of failing eyesight and hearing. I’ll get my coat…….and walking stick
Seriously, folks, I don’t doubt anything suggested by those of you working in the industry and received wisdom is probably right: I’d be lucky to make it through the paper sift. Still, one shouldn’t give up so easily, so to give myself the best possible chance in the unlikely event that I make it to the second stage of the process, are there examples of the pilot’s aptitude test available online or otherwise, or any other type of test employed by the examiners upon which to test yourself? I should be extremely grateful to learn of such and, of course, am willing to reimburse any costs incurred.
Finally, best wishes to all considering an application, especially the young cabin crew member (sincerest apologies for forgetting your username) who I suspect considers flying an unattainable goal; as they old saying goes, “just do it!!”
Wish this opportunity had been available many years ago.
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Can you apply if you already have a commercial license?
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Hi!
Anyone knows if i'm still eligible with 8/14 ATPL exams done?
I'm working on my ATPL theory, but i'm only a PPL holder!
Thank you very much.
Cheers.
Anyone knows if i'm still eligible with 8/14 ATPL exams done?
I'm working on my ATPL theory, but i'm only a PPL holder!
Thank you very much.
Cheers.
I have a PPL with almost 60 hours, and I have already completed the theoretical part of the ATPL, "made" in France. So I am still wondering if I could be eligible for the FPP. What do you think of that ? I will apply anyway and time will tell ...
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MLX-371 : can't see why you couldn't apply. You've shown good initiative and true interest.. But do you even have to tell them you've done some of the ATPL exams? Could just say you've done your PPL.