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SkyRocket10 31st Jul 2011 21:11

BA Future Pilot Programme (FPP)(Merged)
 
This new sponsored initiative was announced internally last week and will replace the current SSP scheme. Full details will be released in August with an initial requirement for 80-100 pilots.

Details released so far are that BA will use three training providers- CTC, Oxford and FTE. The candidate will pay the FULL cost of the course, which will be via an unsecured loan through BBVA. The loan will be transferred to BA on course completion and the student will pay back the costs over seven years.

As I say details are very limited at the moment, but keep an eye on national press and BA.com careers.

BerksFlyer 31st Jul 2011 21:31

Interesting if the loan is indeed unsecured.

kingofkabul 31st Jul 2011 21:43

The loan is planned to be secured by BA, and will be paid back pre-tax on salaries through ROTE.

I think the course will cost c.£84k.

captainsuperstorm 1st Aug 2011 08:58

for dreamers!!!!

ReverseGreenDecel 1st Aug 2011 16:25

Would be great if anyone knew a specific date of the announcement!

Very exciting!

ExMilRedundancy 1st Aug 2011 18:41

What is ROTE might I ask?

Hayleigh 1st Aug 2011 23:53

In terms of educational requirements, which standard might be expected?

I suppose they'll be rather demanding?

clanger32 2nd Aug 2011 09:17

"ROTE" = I suspect King of Kabul means Return of Training Expense. A mechanism previously employed on some cadet schemes (Netjets for example) by which the hiring company can re-imburse you some/all of the training costs you've incurred to get the job with them. Normally would be paid on some basis of a reduced salary and then a tax free repayment that tops you up to the "normal" level

for example:
If the cadet F/O salary (this is only an example, not reality!) = £40k
The Cadet would get something like:
Salary £30k which will be taxed
Repayment of training expense £10k ....tax free.

Net effect is that you get more take home pay for the same salary over the period it's in effect. Downside is you may struggle to get car/house/personal loans based on your actual income, as the £10k is not considered "pay". At the end of the period, you'd revert to a full £40k salary, which is all taxed.

Academic standards - MOST of the cadet schemes that have run in recent years were minimum of 2 A levels or higher. BA are likely to set the bar VERY high as they will have thousands of applicants - they're likely to dwarf the number other cadet schemes have had. I would think probably 3 A levels minimum grade C to even apply. but - and read this carefully - ALL of the above is JUST MY OPINION...I don't "know" anything.

cob98tp 2nd Aug 2011 09:57

Will there be an upper age limit for applications?

ReverseGreenDecel 2nd Aug 2011 11:22

Do you think it'll be the same or different? Wonder what input the schools will have? Whether it'll be done at the schools or BA? Love to hear some info, the wait is killing haha

FANS 2nd Aug 2011 11:29

I very much doubt there'll be a published age limit, in line with Aer Lingus (?), but the reality may be different and hence I don't expect many successful 50 year olds.

Fair play to BA for reintroducing this scheme, despite what seems to be a huge number of newly qualifieds around. I wonder if they're having problems with getting people of the right fit?

ReverseGreenDecel 2nd Aug 2011 11:33

I heard that was the case. Despite the hordes of people with the tickets they said they were struggling to find candidates who meet their standards. Take it for what it's worth.

FANS 2nd Aug 2011 11:38

could believe it - as it can be very difficult to manage pilots out of BA, as the retention rate's the best in the business and hence the recruitment process is key. Albeit with 3,000 pilots, there'll always be a fair few difficult ones..

ReverseGreenDecel 2nd Aug 2011 11:51

Ready up for a seriously competitive fast paced recruitment process then guys!

BerksFlyer 2nd Aug 2011 13:52

Yep. I'm glad! Should be no less for an opportunity like this.

PPLPilot 2nd Aug 2011 13:56

Forgive me if i have misinterpreted this, but by future what are we talking about here? Uni grads? A-levels?
Assuming it is what i think, the minimum age for entry will be 18 ( CPL min. age) or is there hope for a 17 year old doing A-levels and a PPL? :E

nickyboy007 2nd Aug 2011 14:22

this is great news!!!!!

ReverseGreenDecel 2nd Aug 2011 15:44

And no less it will be! I can't wait!

MUFC_fan 2nd Aug 2011 16:23

Without doubt the biggest confidence boost for pilots since pre-9/11.

Fantastic news not just for all those wishing to apply, but for the whole industry. If BA are hiring from scratch, then who knows what will happen with the rest of these airlines?!

iFlyPilot 2nd Aug 2011 16:59

Amen to what MUFC said, but can anyone provide a link to some actual information?


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