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For education requirements I would expect something on the line of "degree preferred" as there are always a few exceptional 18 year-olds. Most cadet/mentored schemes do tend to favour university grads though.
This scheme probably won't launch till September or very late in August.
This scheme probably won't launch till September or very late in August.
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All eyes to August 11th is all I'm saying! ;p
It'll stop Ryanair and EZY's pay-to-fly schemes in its tracks hopefully - with the biggest international airlines starting to offer courses where you end up in a full contracted employment, people have another financial option instead of signing up to the summer contracts in desperation for a job, hopefully now that BA are doing this, they'll change for the better to compete and make their schemes much more appealing!
It'll stop Ryanair and EZY's pay-to-fly schemes in its tracks hopefully - with the biggest international airlines starting to offer courses where you end up in a full contracted employment, people have another financial option instead of signing up to the summer contracts in desperation for a job, hopefully now that BA are doing this, they'll change for the better to compete and make their schemes much more appealing!
It'll stop Ryanair and EZY's pay-to-fly schemes in its tracks hopefully -
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"No chance. With the numbers involved in this scheme there will still be hundreds of others who will still be willing to got PTF."
You are right I guess! Although, let's just be glad this isn't one of those schemes and that the job at the end is still a proper job!
You are right I guess! Although, let's just be glad this isn't one of those schemes and that the job at the end is still a proper job!
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The bond is paid upfront by the cadet but can be in the form of a BA guaranteed BBVA loan. The bond is then returned to the cadet over 7 years. APL, a subsidiary of CTC Aviation will be handling the bond.
Interesting quote by the director running this programme "it will come as no surprise that I'm a supporter of selection on merit and not ability to pay".
Good luck guys and gals!
Interesting quote by the director running this programme "it will come as no surprise that I'm a supporter of selection on merit and not ability to pay".
Good luck guys and gals!
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I don't want to pour cold water on this, BUT, speedbird13 and kingofkabul have not started any training yet, let alone work for BA.
Skyrocket10 ,may know something, but at the end of the day, there are lots of experienced F/O's in hot parts of the world, with thousands of hours looking to work for BA. I'm not, but then, I don't fancy the BA lifestyle.
Looks like nothing more than speculation.
Skyrocket10 ,may know something, but at the end of the day, there are lots of experienced F/O's in hot parts of the world, with thousands of hours looking to work for BA. I'm not, but then, I don't fancy the BA lifestyle.
Looks like nothing more than speculation.
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Far from speculation. Couldn't be further from the truth...
Okay okay you're right, at the moment it's pure speculation
This course is not for guys with thousands of hours though?. Head to BA.com Careers for DEP. This is for probably zero hours guys to start out on. Just happens to be with BA. They're not the only ones speculating however!
Okay okay you're right, at the moment it's pure speculation
This course is not for guys with thousands of hours though?. Head to BA.com Careers for DEP. This is for probably zero hours guys to start out on. Just happens to be with BA. They're not the only ones speculating however!
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With the greatest of respect, you yourself have stated a few posts ago 'if that's true....'
I have no axe to grind, I am not after a job with BA, I don't fancy relocating, or the hours BA crew work....
There has been NO official links, just idle talk.
Anyway as you are so sure, I will let you all be.
I have no axe to grind, I am not after a job with BA, I don't fancy relocating, or the hours BA crew work....
There has been NO official links, just idle talk.
Anyway as you are so sure, I will let you all be.
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Its sepeculation that the intergrated schools won't like.
I can see quite a few that will wait until this scheme plays its self out before committing to a course now.
Also as well you should hope that BA does do its own recruiting as before.
I can see quite a few that will wait until this scheme plays its self out before committing to a course now.
Also as well you should hope that BA does do its own recruiting as before.
Thought you might be interested to learn the entry requirements in the good old days when BA's College of Air Training at Hamble was still churning out pilots.
The following is taken from an advert in the back of Aeroplane Monthly, January 1974:
If your dreams of becoming a pilot with the world's best airlines are to come true, you've got to be good. Very good.
You've got to be very good all round; academically, physically and as a leader. British Airways, among the world's most famous airlines, runs a tough, two-year Airline Pilot Training Scheme for young men who can produce these essential requirements.
You have to be aged between 18-24 (26 for graduates) when you commence your initial training course. You must have at least five GCE passes which include two 'A' levels preferably with a science bias. Essential subjects are English Langauge and Mathematics with Physics or Chemistry, or General Science. Scottish and Northern Ireland equivalents are acceptable. You must enjoy complete physical fitness too including good eyesight, reactions, and hearing. You've got to be a leader in every sense of the word.
If you match up to our demands you're certainly of university calibre. Pilot training will put you well on the road to getting a degree. You pass out of Hamble with two Open University credits, and may acquire more during further training. This places you half way along the road to graduate status.
Take your first step towards a truly rewarding flying career now! Write giving full details to: The Principal...
Not so much has changed then re pre-entry requirements, although it is interesting to note that the advert refers to 'young men' only. Can anyone recall when the first women pilots joined BA? Perhaps this was a Hamble specific thing?
The following is taken from an advert in the back of Aeroplane Monthly, January 1974:
If your dreams of becoming a pilot with the world's best airlines are to come true, you've got to be good. Very good.
You've got to be very good all round; academically, physically and as a leader. British Airways, among the world's most famous airlines, runs a tough, two-year Airline Pilot Training Scheme for young men who can produce these essential requirements.
You have to be aged between 18-24 (26 for graduates) when you commence your initial training course. You must have at least five GCE passes which include two 'A' levels preferably with a science bias. Essential subjects are English Langauge and Mathematics with Physics or Chemistry, or General Science. Scottish and Northern Ireland equivalents are acceptable. You must enjoy complete physical fitness too including good eyesight, reactions, and hearing. You've got to be a leader in every sense of the word.
If you match up to our demands you're certainly of university calibre. Pilot training will put you well on the road to getting a degree. You pass out of Hamble with two Open University credits, and may acquire more during further training. This places you half way along the road to graduate status.
Take your first step towards a truly rewarding flying career now! Write giving full details to: The Principal...
Not so much has changed then re pre-entry requirements, although it is interesting to note that the advert refers to 'young men' only. Can anyone recall when the first women pilots joined BA? Perhaps this was a Hamble specific thing?
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Definately not speculation. I've just read about it in BA's 'flight op's news'. So it's certainly no secret.
It is EXACTLY the same as the CTC wings cadet scheme of old. Where at the end you get a type rating, permanent contract and a tax free top up on your salary to pay the loan off.
It has arisen because BA now want to be in control of which low-houred guys they recruit, from the very beginning. It will ensure the very best quality achievable, without actually paying for the training.
In the early days of the CTC scheme (pre 2007), only 2% of applicants were successful. That was for a job with Easyjet or Thomas Cook.
I would expect an even bigger failure rate for this BA scheme.
Good luck.
It is EXACTLY the same as the CTC wings cadet scheme of old. Where at the end you get a type rating, permanent contract and a tax free top up on your salary to pay the loan off.
It has arisen because BA now want to be in control of which low-houred guys they recruit, from the very beginning. It will ensure the very best quality achievable, without actually paying for the training.
In the early days of the CTC scheme (pre 2007), only 2% of applicants were successful. That was for a job with Easyjet or Thomas Cook.
I would expect an even bigger failure rate for this BA scheme.
Good luck.
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Essential subjects are English Langauge and Mathematics with Physics or Chemistry, or General Science. Scottish and Northern Ireland equivalents are acceptable.
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The only residency requirement would be to have the legal right to live and work in the UK (so EU member states are fine).
I would imagine A levels in maths and/or science subjects would be a basic requirement.
I would imagine A levels in maths and/or science subjects would be a basic requirement.