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Cargolux details requested!

Old 24th Jun 2019, 07:24
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Cargolux considers A350 or the B777x.
The A350 is a surprise .

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Old 24th Jun 2019, 20:26
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Hi guys sorry for the small OT, I posted the same question on the Italian group without any reply.

Is there anyone that has received an answer from Cargolux Italia? I have made the application more than 1 month ago but still no reply at all.

i think they opened the application for FO and SFO many months ago.

many thanks in advance.
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Old 8th Jul 2019, 09:47
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Today I heard that this company gives preferences to candidates with multinationals pilots experience like RYANNAIR , Easyjet as they have the same working environment. And the company policy maintains in high standards.
Candidates from traditional airlines with only one nationality are excluded or never been called . They come with more rooted defects.

With more ore nationalities the standards are more rigid to avoid communication problems and maintain flight safety at a high level.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 14:46
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Who are you

Originally Posted by trancada View Post
Today I heard that this company gives preferences to candidates with multinationals pilots experience like RYANNAIR , Easyjet as they have the same working environment. And the company policy maintains in high standards.
Candidates from traditional airlines with only one nationality are excluded or never been called . They come with more rooted defects.

With more ore nationalities the standards are more rigid to avoid communication problems and maintain flight safety at a high level.
I am really wonderig who you are..? You comment on so many CV postst... Why? Are you a wannabe? your last post suggests you have no idea what CV is all about. It was once maybe the greatest company in Europe but nowadays it‘´s just a job. Decent contract needed?? Stay in Japan and don’t dream of a job in the EU. Goldem times here are over!
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 21:25
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Originally Posted by HURZ View Post

I am really wonderig who you are..? You comment on so many CV postst... Why? Are you a wannabe? your last post suggests you have no idea what CV is all about. It was once maybe the greatest company in Europe but nowadays it‘´s just a job. Decent contract needed?? Stay in Japan and don’t dream of a job in the EU. Goldem times here are over!
My comment is not to denigrate the company's image. I just commented what I heard.
There are a lot of people who would like to be called even to go to the interview, but they can not. And this is reflected here.
If you are speaking ill of me, I think you should read the other comments better.

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Old 20th Jul 2019, 01:01
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Originally Posted by final06 View Post
A certain group of Cargolux pilots, whether or not they belong to the ALPL, undercuts representation and collective bargaining by making themselves ​​​​​​available for work (selling OFF and/or VAC days during the actual period of “work to rule“) thus effectively lessening its power as a bargaining tool.

Unfortunately CLX management can rely on a large pool of this kind of characters at their disposal. (And this by the way is how CLX plans to crew 3 more aircraft without hiring more pilots.)

Attached an actual sample of an illegal roster consisting of 3 back-to-back trips:
Maybe not so clever to post internal roster info on public fora.. Might be one of the reasons all crew/trip details are blocked on PBS now.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 14:34
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Are you talking about Fernando di Marco his roster
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 20:48
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Originally Posted by fda747 View Post
Are you talking about Fernando di Marco his roster
Fernando di Marco, the guy who got demoted to the right hand seat because of an illegal ramp transfer. Actually he left his colleagues stranded on the aircraft after landing in LUX from a longhaul flight by “hijacking“ the crew transport on the cargo apron and forcing its driver to take him to the Schengen Exit of the main terminal air side thus bypassing customs and immigration with the aim to catch his standby flight to ZRH with Swiss.
Crew driver was not amused and reported this guy to the airport authorities who came back to CLX who in turn offered him immediate dismissal or retraining as copilot.

Years ago he already failed a colleague in the simulator for no reason because of a private disagreement. Training department immediately relieved him from his duties as TRI/TRE.

What actually bothers me is the fact that this guy claims to be pro ALPL, but is selling his OFF days left, right and center behind our backs. During discussions he shows all characteristics of an “agent provocateur“.


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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 20:44
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Good news! A new collective work agreement has been agreed between Cargolux management and the unions. Including a pay increase and significantly improved conditions for new hires, 12 off days per month plus 42 vacation days. Various part time schemes etc... Looks like 2 years of record profits are paying off!
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 23:31
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Originally Posted by Final 24 View Post
Looks like 2 years of record profits are paying off!
Pay increase is close to nothing.
Overall I don't see an improvement for those who have been here for a while.
After "2 years of record profits" that's disappointing.
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 21:57
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Angry

I concur. Extremely disappointed by the result of the negotiations. With the new bidding procedure and other ´amenities´, like the 18hrs duty hours positioning after operating, is going to be interesting. Plenty of layovers are gone: we will sleep on the airplane. Lets wait and see the final wording: is way too early to claim that this CWA is a huge improvement. It is worse than the one we had before 2015. Plenty of issues, like the roster instability, are unaddressed....
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 23:29
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Roster instability comes from the fact that we do not have enough pilots and the so called “colleagues“ who sell their OFF- and VAC-days. These guys get the nice trips you will never have!

Edit:
Management is doing their job. Very efficiently in the light of weak unions.
Our worst enemy always was and continues to be our own toxic, shortsighted and selfish colleagues who seek their advantage on the back of their co-workers.
Without these guys we would not have the problems we have since 2015.

Since I do not intend to fly the sh*t for the next 25 years and ruin my health I am now taking a more proactive approach in order to solve this problem. Also I don‘t care any more about incompetent ALPL , lousy CWAs or EASA FTLs .

I simply adjust my rosters to what I am physically and mentally able to do by reporting ‘unfit to fly‘ and writing proactive fatigue reports on a regular basis. As a result my rosters look pretty decent now.

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Old 4th Aug 2019, 07:41
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Surely we can agree that the benefits for new joiners and those that joined after 2015 are substantial and obvious with the old A scale conditions back!
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.






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Old 4th Aug 2019, 11:52
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Final24....you read the new CWA like the devil reads the Bible..you took the money, but for sure this one will haunt you for years to come....
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 12:23
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Final24 = management troll
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 12:24
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Originally Posted by Final 24 View Post

No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.



Final 24 I would like to know what’s your “problem” is concerning expansion or not of Cargolux Itaia.
Is your contract bad because them or what? I would like to understand..thanks
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 14:46
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Originally Posted by Final 24 View Post
Surely we can agree that the benefits for new joiners and those that joined after 2015 are substantial and obvious with the old A scale conditions back!
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.






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Men generally believe what they want to, so opinions can not be changed, regardless of the abrasive and evident truth.
If roster planning equals to strained muscle, roster execution (and reality) equals to rape. I encourage the smart cookies to further elaborate about this topic. Have fun.


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Old 5th Aug 2019, 14:30
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Question! Is a job with Cargolux commutable?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 20:12
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Sure....you’ll be on the road for a minimum of 19 days so plenty of opportunity to commute..😉
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 16:07
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Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985 View Post
Question! Is a job with Cargolux commutable?
Depending on where you’re commuting from Most people commute anyway, some as far as from Spain or Scandinavia. My average trip length so far this year’s 7 days, longest beeing 12 and the shortest 4 days. Spent 95 days away from home year to date, so all in all pretty commutable!

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