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Old 19th Jul 2014, 06:01
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Printers - all-in-one inkjet

Done a search but information changes every day!


Thinking of a CanonMX926, can get it from a dealer in Australia for A$200.00 plus spare ink, postage paid.


What do people think of this printer, do you recommend another please?


Currently have a Dell V301 Wireless, does a nice job, when it chooses to work, very unreliable in the wireless mode, working from Dell computers, also its brother, non wireless, using a direct connection to the computer but often prints one sheet and then refuses until everything is switched off and re booted.
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What do people think of this printer, do you recommend another please?
God no !

I've owned three of these at home. Waste of time and space and error and breakage prone.

I now use a colour laser at home and a separate scanner.
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I guess it depends on how much printing you need to do. If it's the occasional document from a computer, some copying now and again and the odd bit of scanning, then a cheap-as-chips Canon wireless printer is probably sufficient.

I found the MG3200 sufficient for my needs; the later model MG3560 is available in Oz from as little as AU$55 at Dick Smith.
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I gave up on all-in-one printers. Inevitably, one part fails and you have to replace the lot.

I have a very good, very small Canon scanner that works well, with supplied software for scanning, copying, OCR, and fax (how quaint!). I have a good colour printer that works flawlessly over my wireless network. It's the only option I'd consider, now.
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It depends how much colour printing you are doing.

I have just junked all the inkjets at work because by the time you taking into account the pain in the backside factor to do with ink etc they are all expensive as hell.

Now we have mono wireless laser printers for admin. Similar to the Dell B1160W

And one central colour laser. And bulk laser.

Scanner is completely separate flat bed and scanner on the bulk laser which doubles as a photocopier.

The initial price of an inkjet is a loss leader to sucker you in to pay through the nose for the consumables.
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Inkjet printers are the biggest con out, especially if you do a bit of printing.
The printer is cheap because the Ink cartridges are a rip off.

If you can find a lower cost laser printer, better value long term.

I looked a few months ago and was impressed by cost and performance of lasers.
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I have just junked all the inkjets at work because by the time you taking into account the pain in the backside factor to do with ink etc they are all expensive as hell.
A lesson learnt the hard way .....

The rule of thumb is that you never, ever use inkjets in a business context unless your line of business is one of the exceptions...e.g graphic design. I don't care if you're a one man band or a large corporate.... inkjets don't have a place in the vast majority of workplaces.

People who set up business IT infrastructure on the cheap just by looking at short-term costs of acquisition will find it coming back to bite them in the backside.
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It was an inherited issue. And took time to prove to the boss and beat down the admin opposition of not having a printer on their personal desk.

I have held your policy for over 15 years when they first came out.

Even at home they are uneconomic as well. Slow expensive and poor quality most of the time.

MOno black laser printer 70 quid with duplex printing and 10 PPM, toner cartridge 5 quid. 3500 pages

Injet single sided only 5 PPM if your lucky and 20 quid for a ink packs. lucky if you get 500 out of them with domestic use.

Colour laser about 125 quid again duplex 10ppm, toner 40 quid for 3500 pages.

And if you turn off the laser and don't use it for a month it will turn on and work without having to go to the ball ache of unclogging jets and the like and more than likely buying a new ink pack.

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Para,

I have just bought a MX725 in the UK, I think the same as the MX726 in Australia. It is similar to the MX925/926 but does not have CD/DVD printing so works out a little cheaper.

All the comments above are valid re cost etc but this was dirt cheap at £90 and for the amount that I use it then it is not a problem as I am not replacing inks on a regular basis. It does not take up a lot of desk space and is easy to use; it also airprints from iPad and iPhone etc. It is a little slow to start but then print speeds are fine, The duplex scanning to PDF tends to get used more than the printing and I have not set up the faxing; the wifi set up is a doddle.

Overall I can recommend it for occasional use; if you are doing a lot of printing then the comments above need consideration.
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I think even for minor printing at home a cheaper Laser printer is better.

I used to work in the computer industry. printers were higher priced, ink was reasonable. Left industry, saw the price plummet on printers and ink prices shoot up.

Went with GF to shop to buy ink for her printer. The 4 ink cartridges were
nearly as much as a new printer !
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For my light domestic use my Canon MG whatever is OK. Dunno wot they call it in Aus. I buy discounted inks from the internet.
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Where I live, most printing is done on cheap Brother laser printers. They are in the public-access computer rooms and I have one. Reliability is good. I just bought a "house brand" toner cartridge for US$ 25.

I also have a fairly-old HP 7850 ink-jet. I understand that my HP has the print heads as part of the cartridges - one black and one three-color. I gave up on the previous two "other brand" ink-jets due to clogged jets ... threw the printers away. The HP hasn't had a clogged jet - though it is seldom used - and anyway I would just need to buy new cartridges - if my theory is correct.

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Refilled inkjet cartridges can save a lot of dough.
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I have th MX926, its a good quality printer.

Pro

It does excellent photos, is quite quick in its printing and is a good quality muti page scanner. The printing of CDs/DVDs is good. The software takes a bit getting used to, but works well.

Con

The ink is expensive, and is used up quite quickly. Large footprint
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If they work without clogging the inkjets !
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Yes, that is a problem. I found that about 1/3 of cartridges are unusable after being refilled (the ones with the heads included)
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I am a big fan of the HP Officejet Pro 8600 (and HP Officejet Pro 8600 plus - if you want duplex in copying and scanning).


Have 5 of these running in the office on 'mixed (but fairly heavy) duties' and very few problems.


Ink costs reasonable by inkjet standards even using standard replacements(SWMBO purchased a specific kit for refilling these and has a pretty high success rate - which makes considerable savings even allowing for the risk of screwing up a machine every now and then, which hasn't happened yet).


Capital cost about £150 in the UK for the 'plus version'.


If you do a lot of scanning (we do shed loads) consider buying vuescan software (a comment which applies to pretty much all scanner manufacturer options).
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finally had enough of cartridges with chips saying "empty" when you could see 30% full,,,then finding new cartridge wouldn't perform due head clogging....made a flusher to pump Meth through and could observe flow through all nozzles,with a magnifying glass.....2 pages later clogging again.
bought secondhand l@ser all in one (OKI colour) off the bay, 3 spare, sealed cartridges and a full set installed...complete with original box, leads and manual
£25! -well, 23 but I was too embarrassed to accept the change.
A small cheat with a 50p micro-fuse reset the black image roller's life. Black toner ran out, rechipped the cartridge and got another hundred or so pages, eventually used one of the "free" spares.
Great for copying, great for printing. far superior and quicker than inkjet and no head clogging.
Plenty about, especially the more popular brands and plenty of cheap toners...options are genuine, usually where an office is clearing due to re-equipping, recycled-often same reason, or you can buy toner and chip kits to refill your own!

It's perfectly easy to buy a machine, use the consumables and then dispose of it, at ~a penny a copy. I have a spare HP 3550 colour which came free (office clearout!) -all consumables except black are over 75% cartridge on the Bay, £10 delivered that'll give me another 4,000 copies before the yellow might run out!

You do the maths!...inkjet? DUSTBIN!
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Thanks to all of you who have either replied or commented, much appreciated and gives me much food for thought! Thanks again.


(I am not an office, just a casual user with a light printer workload).
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if your light user ie Pilot that occasionally prints B&W manuals and wx etc

A wireless mono laser will suit your needs down to the ground. If you need anything colour just go to a print shop with a USB stick.

I was going to get a photo printer until I looked at it a bit. Discovered you can just send the printers the photo's via a dropbox account and they appear then next day in the post and it costs buttons and if you like one and want it blown up and the exposure increased or decreased email and again it appears.

I now get 20% discount because I gave them permission to use 3 of my photo's in their shop. And if they sell a print they put 20 quid on my account. So to be honest I haven't actually paid for printing in 6 months.
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